archermoo Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings I think we'd be better off whipping out... a whip' date=' if we're going to self-scourge.[/quote'] I actually LIKE Rolemaster. It's my second favorite system for the Fantasy genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings I always had you figured for a pain freak. Never really played Rolemaster, but I have some MERP mileage, which I guess is RM Lite. Even so I had issues with the lethality of the system. Oddly I've never played GURPS; I suspect that'd be my second favorite fantasy system if I had. But since I haven't, #2 is Ars Magica. (I think 4th ed., because it matters.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teh bunneh Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings Maybe your players don't want to learn a new system. I personally would rather play the older systems' date=' than 3rd Edition and won't even bother looking at 4th.[/quote'] I don't know about that "learn a new system" thing. It's been probably 3 or 4 years since any of us played 3.5 (and we were never really clear on most of it anyway -- all the contradictions and "X unless Y" bits in the rules we could never figure out; we'd have to learn the system fresh anyway. Or they're just feeling nostalgic. Really it's just one player in particular wants to play, but she exerts a huge influence on her husband (who is our group's other GM). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings I always had you figured for a pain freak. Never really played Rolemaster, but I have some MERP mileage, which I guess is RM Lite. Even so I had issues with the lethality of the system. Oddly I've never played GURPS; I suspect that'd be my second favorite fantasy system if I had. But since I haven't, #2 is Ars Magica. (I think 4th ed., because it matters.) MERP is evil. It is Rolemaster with all the good bits taken out. Though yes, Rolemaster can be deadly. It gives a good education to player to either a) make sure that they use some of their bonuses on defense, not just offense, or get good at making characters quickly. B was helped by the fact that I had a pretty complete Excel sheet that tracked most everything you needed for making up characters. Including Spell Lists. I've played GURPS. Rolemaster is still my #2 Fansasy game. Never played Ars Magica though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings I don't know about that "learn a new system" thing. It's been probably 3 or 4 years since any of us played 3.5 (and we were never really clear on most of it anyway -- all the contradictions and "X unless Y" bits in the rules we could never figure out; we'd have to learn the system fresh anyway. Really it's just one player in particular wants to play, but she exerts a huge influence on her husband (who is our group's other GM). Darn wimmins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings I see Archermoo & I agree about MERP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings I think we'd be better off whipping out... a whip' date=' if we're going to self-scourge.[/quote']Pie Iesu Domine Dona eis requiem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings I see Archermoo & I agree about MERP. To quote my brother: "Tables tables I hate tables." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings To quote my brother: "Tables tables I hate tables." Then Rolemaster is certainly not the game for you. We didn't call it ChartLaw for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings pie Iesu Domine Dona Eis Requiem *thump* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings Then Rolemaster is certainly not the game for you. We didn't call it ChartLaw for nothing. I've got RMSS, but I think I've never actually tried to play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings *thump*. . . Aren't memes grand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings I've got RMSS' date=' but I think I've never actually tried to play it. [/quote'] I played pretty much every version up to and including RMSS. Somewhere I still have my pre Claw Law version of Arms Law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings . . . RMSS is one of those games I just collected. Let's see -- RMSR, Arms Law, Spell Law, GM Law, Essence Companion, Channeling Companion, Arcane Companion, Creatures & Monsters, Treasure Companion . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings Companion Companion... ---------------- Now playing: Head East - Never Been Any Reason via FoxyTunes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings I dimly recollect playing Space Master exactly once, and I remember thinking that it was really complicated as compared to MERP. But that's not a fair comparison since I never played it enough to get a real handle on the rules. One thing that annoyed me about MERP, anyway, wasn't the tables so much as that there weren't enough tables. Sounds crazy, I know, but about the fiftieth time by hobbit archer had severed someone's patellar tendon, I was really wishing that the tables were either more generic, or waaay more detailed, so that I wouldn't be bored by the results. As for Ars Magica... it's famous for its magic system, of course, which is not all that flexible but is really unmatched in terms of capturing the flavor of dark ages black magic--laws of sympathy and contagion, nature and spirits and the elements, etc. But I also liked the combat system, which had a neat back-and-forth advantage-shifting mechanic. None of these, though, even approach Fantasy Hero, flawed though it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings I just uncovered some Space Master in the storage shed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings I dimly recollect playing Space Master exactly once, and I remember thinking that it was really complicated as compared to MERP. But that's not a fair comparison since I never played it enough to get a real handle on the rules. One thing that annoyed me about MERP, anyway, wasn't the tables so much as that there weren't enough tables. Sounds crazy, I know, but about the fiftieth time by hobbit archer had severed someone's patellar tendon, I was really wishing that the tables were either more generic, or waaay more detailed, so that I wouldn't be bored by the results. As for Ars Magica... it's famous for its magic system, of course, which is not all that flexible but is really unmatched in terms of capturing the flavor of dark ages black magic--laws of sympathy and contagion, nature and spirits and the elements, etc. But I also liked the combat system, which had a neat back-and-forth advantage-shifting mechanic. None of these, though, even approach Fantasy Hero, flawed though it is. Rolemaster's tables are considerably more detailed than MERP's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings Indeed. And they're all sadistically fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings So, I should run out and buy a copy and play it? I imagine my time might be better spent trying to make sure FH6 is actually an improvement. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings Yah. Stick with Hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings Has anyone bought Telepathy? Can you tell me what Steve is planning to do with FH6, if anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings Well there will be four classes, A striker, a Tank, a COntroller, and A Defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings Well there will be four classes' date=' A striker, a Tank, a COntroller, and A Defender.[/quote'] You're evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Re: Musings on Random Musings Chaotic Evil only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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