beauxdeigh Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... I haven't heard or seen reference to that song in years .... wow. ghost-"talk about obscure"-angel yeah, but we have photographic evidence that keith didn't follow the song's advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... obscure and useless trivia is my middle name. Keith "obscure and useless trivia" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... yeah' date=' but we have photographic evidence that keith didn't follow the song's advice.[/quote'] Repped! Keith "Must be miserable" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... I've got no problem with sex when it advances the plot or character development; I'm opposed to it when it's just shameless pandering. Actually I feel that way about a lot of things: violence, death, resurrections, political/religious commentary, cross-overs... The other thing to remember is that comics aren't really marketed at kids anymore, and haven't been since... well, since most of us were kids. Didn't I see something the other day that the average (maybe it was mean) age of comic readers is pushing 40? bigdamnhero "Is this the human value you call friendship?" "Don't give me any of that 'Star Trek' crap. It's too early in the morning." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik_nilsson Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... Even if two characters are involved' date=' it really dosen't add anything to show them plowing/being plowed.[/quote'] I take it that solo action is way off then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbering Ox Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... I take it that solo action is way off then? Not much you can do with solo plowing, you need a plowman and at least 1 Oxen or Horse, or more depending on the soil [Keeping it clean... or dirty^H^H^H^H^H soiled, depending on your POV] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDU Neil Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... Just as a point to agree with much of what is being said here... Example: Villains United #4... final page... scene with Catman and Cheshire in bed together, clearly quite naked. Very much the oversexed art on both their parts... but the dialogue and the actual reasons for sex to happen between them is very clearly a part of the plot, story and character development. It is a perfect scene of sex as a natural part of the story being told... IMO. Got no problems with that kind of thing... but I wonder if such is too much for others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... Thought of another example of Sex used well in the comics. Fable (FableTown?) ah crud... I can't remember what the name is! premise is all the Fariytales are real, and living in NYC. Prince Charming is a popmus chauvanistic @$$, who is damn good in bed. There's a sex scene to show that there's at least a reason a woman would keep him around for more than ten seconds - and further shows he's a complete jerk when he's gone the next morning after leaving a grocery list behind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDU Neil Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... Fables... by Willingham. Anything by Willingham will have tons of sex... both story based and utterly prurient. He's the ultimate dirty old man. But I'd agree... the use of sex in Fables is appropriate... because it is a book about relationships... strange and bizarre relationships between strange and bizarre people/creatures... but relationships, nonetheless. Sex will obviously be a part of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristopher Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... ... Sorry, but that costume looks painted on (and the painter should be shot). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent X Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... Sort of like a certain poster whose handle sounds like CNR, but without the political vitriol. Keith "More threads like this, please" Curtis Most of that political vitriol was directed at him instead of coming from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... Most of that political vitriol was directed at him instead of coming from him. Not from my perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... I own Giant Size Man Thing #1 and you know what? it is a giant sized man thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... If you look into pulp-styled characters you'll find a lot of non-beautiful heroes. In Sin City' date=' Marv is supposed to be pretty ugly, and Detective Hartigan's no prize either.[/quote'] that is true, however they both are men and have the hollywood hard body. Men are allowed to be ugly as long as they are muscular or incredibly manly (you know, like a violent killer or police officer etc) or the foil (either villain or comic relief.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karma Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... This is a good point. Warning prospective buyers is always a good idea. And it helps sales, why would a kid buy a typical G comic when he can have an M rated comic and all the naughtyness that goes with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBaldy Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... I always suspected Wolverine had some irregularity issues. It's all that red meat. He, needs some ruffage in his diet...maybe a little bit more bran and fiber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBaldy Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... Who didn't like to see the females of the Hellfire Club make their first appearances? How true MitchellS...Emma Frost was HOTT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBaldy Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... Did you guys ever notice that orinmoon creates these quasi-philosophical [virtually NGD threads] and then never posts to them again? Now that you mention it... REPPED!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBaldy Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... Arthur from 'The Tick' was pudgy and average looking. and a Moth. True, but "The Tick" is supposed to be a parody of superheroes. So, it's not really the same thing...so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBaldy Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... Batman to Batgirl... "Clowns to the left of me Joker's to the right. Here I am... Stuck in the middle with you!" Thank you Steeler's Wheel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... And it helps sales' date=' why would a kid buy a typical G comic when he can have an M rated comic and all the naughtyness that goes with it?[/quote'] Because his mother won't let him? Keith ";)" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... Some of the females in Watchmen had attractive, but not idealized physiques. Depending on the artist, both Rahne (Woflsbane) and Kitty Pryde have been drawn plain. Of course, they are both adolescent, which may have something to do with it. Keith "If you want to be happy for the rest of your life..." Curtis "But she sure can cook!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... Keith "Any more non-beautiful heroes?" Curtis Emty Vee from The Intimates has a serious weight problem, and Punchy from the same title looks kinda dorky too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... Big Bertha is not pretty in her heroic ID but her secret ID is a supermodel. Was she mentioned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zornwil Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Re: Comics are getting too steamy... You make a good point but I also do not wish to read about my favorite comic book characters eating dinner' date=' taking a crap or combing their hair either.[/quote'] Though that raises an interesting point, as a tangent to your comment, which I understand and to a degree makes sense, but in a way I would say brings something up which is too often ignored in comics. Dinner is the first social act, at least per some anthropologists, and the dinner table is a wonderful opportunity in fiction and roleplaying for interaction and exposition,. I've enjoyed comics which spend significant time on the interpersonal side. In the Bizarro comic collection one of the best segments was a lunch meeting between 2 superheroines, one retired and one still active. Similarly, all sorts of personal-physical foibles, such as bathroom habits, have interesting impacts and relate the superheroic character back to us "little people," establishing that human connection. In RPGs it's common to see such foibles and experiences garner attention as these aspects of a character equally define him. Someone remarked they were surprised at our group spending 45 minutes in a strip club (I mean in-game!), but it was a good RP opportunity, and good fiction is little different in using otherwise-mundane events to showcase character traits. I would gladly buy a superhero book that rarely or even ever featured combat. I think Alias was a great example of such a book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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