Starlord

I hold the people who actually did the deed responsible in all instances.  However, the POTUS seems to have directly incited (ie., the action of provoking unlawful behavior or urging someone to behave unlawfully) the proceedings right before they happened.  Also, there seems to be evidence that his administration also may have interfered with, or just ignored, efforts to defend the capitol.  He should bear some responsibility for that and should be punished accordingly.

First, can we define who "THEY" is? Because, maybe I misread Cancer, but I thought he meant Americans with a conservative bent and often rural background. Others seem to be defining THEY to those who stormed the white house in a seditious act, and it's a mistake to assume all of the former are the same mindset as the latter. 
 
That said, yes, as a guy who voted for Bernie in the primaries I totally feel the frustration of being told that ideas I think are just  common sense and common decency are too big and unrealistic over and over. Be it from more moderate democrats or those voting republican.  I'm sure they're frustrated with me being so fussy about such.
 
You can want border security while recognizing that families being separated is wrong and without discouraging increased means for LEGAL immigration. 
You can be pro right to bear arms or even LIKE guns without being against waiting periods or background checks.
You can be against Free Trade set ups that seem to cost jobs at home without being xenophobic.
 
Some folks are treating ANYONE with a conservative leaning as if they're cheering Trump on, and that is delusional and destructive in a time when we're already loaded up on destructive delusion in this country and we don't need more.
 

Well, assuming we make through the next two weeks and conclude the transition to President Biden, ideally we will have time to start hashing out differences.  Duke Bushido has made clear that the section of the population with a conservative bent has grievances they feel have been deliberately slighted.  (The liberal side, of course, has a corresponding set of complaints, but for the most part we pinkos on these forums have our fingers on those.) 
 
Personally, I am have been urban for 20 years, and so left-leaning that while I have lived in the rural and conservative social environment, it's so far back I can no longer guess what those really are.  I have the prejudice -- and by now, yeah, I'll concede it's a prejudice -- that the middle/poor class with conservative preferences are largely puppets of the extremely rich, who prey on them economically.  I imagine there are prejudices across the boundary who believe that I'm at best a pawn of the antifa or some such, if not a low-grade active agent for them. 
 
 
There.  That venom out of my system for a couple of minutes ....
 
Can we get back to trying to communicate sincerely, and listen to each other, and negotiate each others' genuine concerns?  I am terribly, terribly tired of Gingrich's "never compromise" doctrine, and the replacement of conversation by taunting demonstrations, and I know there are mirrored versions of this on the left side.
 
First, let's drive a stake through the COVID vampire.  Then start restoring the healthcare infrastructure from the stress fractures the virus has been pushing into it.  Then get the economy limping back towards working.
 
That'll take a couple of years at least, of course, but it's a beginning that we have to have.

Anyone see a resemblance?
 

 
 

I'll wait with bated breath for GOP to investigate the capitol insurrection with the same fervor they investigated Benghazi.  Capitol police officer has now died among others.  Like to see Trump handle an 11 hour grilling like Hillary....

I'll wait with bated breath for GOP to investigate the capitol insurrection with the same fervor they investigated Benghazi.  Capitol police officer has now died among others.  Like to see Trump handle an 11 hour grilling like Hillary....

These health issues could be the result of a revenge plot by Viper operatives.  As we all know, Mr. Bennie was instrumental as the whistleblower who revealed all those Viper organizational secrets by writing a manual disguised as a 'Campaign Sourcebook' for a mild-mannered superhero rpg. 
 
J/K
Get well Scott Bennie!

Try White House Karen

Best served Luke warm.
 

The leaders of the free world gather to discuss the problems of a struggling nation
 
The French start: "The Age of Enlightenment started here. We'll help spread progressive ideas."
 
The Germans follow: "We have a very stable economy, we'll help lower national debt."
 
The Japanese join in: "Our scientist are the best in the world. We pledge to help battle the spreading disease."
 
The Swedish add: "Our healthcare system is the finest. We'll teach them how to help those in need."
 
Even Denmark speaks up: "Our country is extremely safe. We can help lower violence and aggression."
 
The Canadians look bewildered: "What are we supposed to do?"
 
The other leaders look at each other. "Well, since it's your neighbor we though you'd be the one to tell them."

Optimist:The glass is half full
Pesimist:The glass is half empty
Engineer:The glass is double the necessary size

Chemist: The glass is full, containing 50% water, 39.5% elemental nitrogen, 10% elemental oxygen, and 0.5% trace gases by volume.

An outdoorsman was sitting in his kayak when it started to get cold. He decided to light a fire in the craft, but, naturally, it sank, proving once again that you can’t have your kayak and heat it too.