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Irving would probably look like this: but as he'd be probably very small-- possibly as small as an inch and at most about a foot tall-- he'd be more of a conscience-spirit to the one who found him. A Stone Age Jiminy Cricket, as it were.

Irving will probably go into discussions with the local churches that would put medieval scholars to shame. Whether they'll be resolved quickly enough to help is another matter, and any local Mormon elders would probably wish they *could* take caffiene as Irving will keep talking to them until they drop... then wait for them to wake up and keep right on going...

Actually, that might be really fun in a kickin' 70s blaxploitation campaign...

Evil Irving: I think the personality would be much like the Ultra-Humanite, at least as I've seen him in the animated Justice League. Irving might be even more of a misanthrope, though, and completely indifferent to human suffering.

Irving would not be much changed, though he'd have more accumulated learning and perhaps an even more pacifist attitude-- though it's unlikely that he'd travel to Europe, he'd be meeting more Holocaust survivors first hand as well as watching the Nuremberg trials unfold and it would upset him profoundly about the ways of humans.

I'm sure there'd be some restorers at the Metropolitan Museum of Art who'd be willing to help Irving out.

What if it was a cookie-cutter shark?

Actually, wolves were more strongly associated with vampires than bats were, at least in older European folklore. Anyway, to take this comic inversion to its logical extreme, Irving would look like this:

Irving would be QUITE sure his teammate Flash is playing another little joke but would probably go along with it. Usually, though, his charitable causes are more along the lines of public readings to promote adult literacy.

Nag. Especially if he's a Kipling and/or Chuck Jones fan.

Ah, I should've known. Next time I see our Champions-collecting friend (he's got damn near everything including the infamous Road Kill adventure) I'll look in UMA.

This discussion came up with my husband after we'd seen a recent Justice League episode (the "Injustice League" one). I figure a bag of marbles like the Joker used to trip up the Flash would be bought as a Change Environment similar to the ice sheet used as an example in FRed, with possibly a different area of effect (it might appear to be a cone from where they were thrown), and with these limitations: 1 Charge (optionally recoverable, though the Joker's trick marbles blew up), with a fairly long duration Gestures to activate (you can't throw them if your hands are tied up!) Is this likely, or would a Transform be perhaps a bit likelier, on the assumption that if you don't clean up the marbles it'll stay an area of unsure footing for a very long time?

I also noticed Nighthawk seems to get the worst of it in the UNTIL Superpowers Database book... Set on fire by Mentallon... Attacked by mind-controlled children... Pummeled with TK-powered silverware... ... and probably the most insulting, his brief encounter with Hazard or whatever the luck-powered villain was called.

I'd second the reissuing of the old Cardboard Heroes pieces-- especially if you boost up the number of VIPER and UNTIL agents for those big battels...

Re: Long Live Capitalism! Maybe, but when you consider that some street gangs have managed to acquire heavy weapons along the lines of LAWs you'd really want to consider where the stuff's going... especially if the PCs have any friends, DNPCs, etc. who are cops.

Aw, with this setup I think jokes were going to be made no matter *who* the VP was ("Gore? I can't see him doing the caped megalomaniac thing, can you?")...

I could just hear my husband's character Elizabeth saying, "Cheney's the Supreme Serpent, huh? I could have a heart attack from being not surprised."

Also, heroes' Codes against Killing become very widespread and enforced to sometimes ludicrous extremes.

Judging from that "Injustice League" episode Batman should have Psychology 20- with the limitations "Only to exploit opponents' Psych Lims/Enrageds" and "RSR: KS (Supervillains)"

Irving doesn't have any relatives and certainly no past relationships. His best friend (another hero in the group) Elizabeth van Leiden, however, has a younger sister who's something of a hero groupie. It should be noted that Elizabeth came by her powers (and Distinctive Feature: Permanent Green Glow) by accident, and thinks the only people on earth more mentally damaged than superheroes are supervillians. (She doesn't really count herself as a super, partly out of denial, partly because if she could find a cure she'd probably get out of the business). So Irving would probably be trying to keep Elizabeth from doing something violent and dangerous...

Possibly because the trailer was being put together while the score was still being worked on. It's not uncommon-- I remember the Casper the Friendly Ghost trailer using parts of Nightmare Before Christmas' soundtrack (which gave me an extra reason to loathe it).

... but it made me giggle like a Japanese schoolgirl. http://www16.brinkster.com/floffoj/Candiru.html

Simple truth is, if this suddenly came up in the campaign Irving was involved in, I'd be wondering what the hell was up with our GM since his regular GMing style was about as non-gritty as they come. On top of that, for a while at the time this game was going on we had a player who didn't just have issues, he had an effin' magazine stand going (in a later supers campaign I was not in he was banned from playing female characters and shortly thereafter just dropped from the game) and the prospect of dealing with him and this storyline would make start calling in sick/having appointments on game night....

I think I posted Irving here once if you need the actual stats, but... Irving is one of the New York Public Library lion statues, come to life by ways nobody (not even he) understands-- he just "woke up" and decided to go looking around, though there's implications that his sentience and sapience were slowly building up for decades. Powerswise, classic brick-- what would you expect from a solid marble lion the size of a horse?-- but with some interesting physical lims (no fine manipulation, no color vision) and a friendly, naive, and somewhat pacifistic personality. Also the inquisitiveness of a three-year-old-- has to ask "Why" about *everything*. At any time. This gets very weird when the heroes are staking out a villian lair and a deep rumbling voice asks, "Was the color orange named for the fruit, or the other way around?" Oh, and since he doesn't need to sleep (among many of the other biological needs he doesn't have), his sense of time is a little off, so he'll cheerfully pick up a conversation where it left off-- several hours ago if needs be.

Irving doesn't sleep and therefore doesn't dream in the sense humans do. If he heard these thoughts interrupting a sort of daydream reverie (those he has plenty of) he'd probably ask his teammates to help him figure out if a mentalist is trying to pester him for some reason.