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#41 Remjin

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 02:48 PM

Re: Cool Guns for your Games An interesting smg from H&K... the MP7.

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 07:52 PM

Re: Cool Guns for your Games

One I had only half noted....

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn73-e.htm


:eg:


Still pretty heavy, but there are a lot of weapons in the same range, M60, etc...

same site has a nice writeup on the Kel-tec RFB
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn75-e.htm


This one has been posted before, but... :eg:
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn72-e.htm


and if you REALLY need a weapon for the 30+ strength 8' tall brick in you party...
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn55-e.htm

Then the question becomes, 14.5mm for AP, or 20mm for HE effect


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one of my favorite "gamer guns" but one that I would actually like to have is this
http://world.guns.ru...guns/hg73-e.htm


marketed in the US as the EAA Witness line, the steel framed versions ability to be converted to anything from 9mm through .45, including full bore 10mm Auto... is nice. It felt superb in my hand, iirc better than my sig p228. the ability to have iirc 16 rds of 10mm auto in a reasonably sized gun...

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Posted 01 June 2007 - 12:19 AM

Re: Cool Guns for your Games

Actually, if you look at the bottom of the picture, it's "Grammaton" Cleric...

Is the gun called a 'Tetra', by any chance?

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Posted 01 June 2007 - 05:40 AM

Re: Cool Guns for your Games shhh, you do not want to call the wrath of the Tetragrammarian down...

#45 T. K. Bertram

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Posted 01 June 2007 - 01:04 PM

Re: Cool Guns for your Games

Back during the 70's and 80's, the Germans seemed to have a thing about making weapons that looked like they were mated with their own luggage. The best examples I can remember are the Walther WA-2000 (featured in The Living Daylights) and the H&K G11 (which would have replaced the G3 as the Bundeswher's standard rifle in the 1990s if not for the collapse of the Soviet Union).

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#46 Remjin

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Posted 01 June 2007 - 02:46 PM

Re: Cool Guns for your Games For those who like rifles with lots of stuff on them, I offer this delectable rifle... a modification of the M14 from before the vietnam era, brought into the modern age. These are two different versions...

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Posted 02 June 2007 - 04:22 PM

Re: Cool Guns for your Games

An interesting smg from H&K... the MP7.


It's funny you bring that one up. This is the standard SMG for H4H. It's also pretty much the "generic SMG" I use for villains...mostly because I know those stats pretty well.

Since you seem to be so gunny lately...how about some homework? One of the things I always thought the DC gun list was missing was another column. One column that would differentiate between common uses for the weapon. Is it an SMG? Is it a Sniper Rifle? That way you could look down the list, when looking for a sniper rifle, and just consider that ones marked Sniper.

I would basically like to have a list of two or three weapons for each general category.

Actually, I think if all the gun-bunnies put their minds to it, we might be able to cover the whole darned list! :)

See how I get other people to do all the boring work? 8D

#48 Remjin

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Posted 02 June 2007 - 07:24 PM

Re: Cool Guns for your Games

It's funny you bring that one up. This is the standard SMG for H4H. It's also pretty much the "generic SMG" I use for villains...mostly because I know those stats pretty well.

Since you seem to be so gunny lately...how about some homework? One of the things I always thought the DC gun list was missing was another column. One column that would differentiate between common uses for the weapon. Is it an SMG? Is it a Sniper Rifle? That way you could look down the list, when looking for a sniper rifle, and just consider that ones marked Sniper.

I would basically like to have a list of two or three weapons for each general category.

Actually, I think if all the gun-bunnies put their minds to it, we might be able to cover the whole darned list! :)

See how I get other people to do all the boring work? 8D


The problem with "categorizing" certain weapons nowadays is that the differences are so much less than they were ages ago. In fact, that's mostly an opinion derived from a modern perspective. Depending on technology levels, time period, etc. the role of a gun changes. To the modern soldier, the only reason to use a bolt action is if you're a sniper... to the WWI crowd, its a standard armament.

Another example is that the setup of the same rifle changes its role. An M-14, which is a bit older but still in use, is a standard infantry rifle to some. Put a scope on it, perhaps a trigger job and some other accessories, and its a sniper rifle. I believe one of the top snipers of american history used an M-14. Shorten up the barrel or use the alternate version I showed above, and it can be a CQB rifle (arguable for some, considering its a .308, but still..) etc. etc.

One of the reasons I think that's not included is because of these and other reasons. Besides setup and time reference, its only really viable for only one setting. As is, I don't necessarily agree with how its set up in the game as standard anyway, I just don't bother to quibble with it as its only minutely bothersome, as in the H4H game, I'll just build what I want. =)

As an aside, on my list of projects right now is making a prop gun for Father Martin for my own amusement. I was going to use the Hellboy prop gun out there as a basis until I saw the price tag ($299). OUCH! So its back to PVC, Bondo, and wood... cuz I don't have a metal shop handy... or much skill with that stuff, even if I did. =)

#49 Bloodstone

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Posted 02 June 2007 - 09:05 PM

Re: Cool Guns for your Games

As an aside, on my list of projects right now is making a prop gun for Father Martin for my own amusement.



I am not bringing a long bow and quartz tipped arrows to the game table!

A compound bow on the other hand... :P

#50 Remjin

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 10:46 AM

Re: Cool Guns for your Games Hey, I didn't say we all had to bring props... I just want one cuz I think it'd be fun to make and I really like the visual I have of it. I'm not going to show up in costume or anything... :D

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 05:29 PM

Re: Cool Guns for your Games

whilst looking into some of the guns mentioned on the page i found this

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not a gun but very cool none the less its called Frag12 and its a fin stabilized micro grenade that's fired from a standard 3" shot gun shell they recon its accurate out to 200 yards oh and its British yay national pride

meanwhile the Americans have the perfect tool for firing it the http://world.guns.ru...tgun/sh29-e.htm fully auto assault shotgun with a 20 round drum mag shotgunPosted Image

and finally the israeli Tavor assault rifle which is what got me on this in the first place very cool looking I'm sure it will be subbing fro space age weaponry all over holly wood very soon

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 02:39 PM

Re: Cool Guns for your Games Neat find on the oddball shotgun round. Very nice pic, too. I was going to rant on the shotgun and bullpup rifle, but that's kind of rude... everyone's preferences differ. For a neat shotgun, though, look up the Saiga shotguns. Not always pretty, but looks to work better than the middle contraption.

#53 freakboy6117

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 04:05 PM

Re: Cool Guns for your Games yeah the Saiga is pretty cool looking looks like a proper gun too the AA 12 looks way to much like a paint ball gun for my liking as to the frag 12 I'm looking froward to modding it into a whole arsenal of custom munitions in photo shop

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 05:41 PM

Re: Cool Guns for your Games Has anyone ever actually shot a bullpup style weapon? How hard is it to change magazines? It looks kind of awkward, compared to traditional magazine-in-front-of-the-trigger configuration.

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 07:45 PM

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Has anyone ever actually shot a bullpup style weapon? How hard is it to change magazines? It looks kind of awkward, compared to traditional magazine-in-front-of-the-trigger configuration.


Its not really the difficulty of changing magazines, the mechanisms are typically the same, its just the orientation of having the magazine that far back. Depends on what you're used to, really, as rifle mag changes aren't exactly the most convenient in any case. Either way, you have to brace the weapon somehow. In fact, with a bullpup weapon, it might be easier once one gets used to it since you can brace the rifle against yourself by simply holding the rifle against your side or hip. When its in front, you have to manipulate the rifle a bit to get a new mag in, and most use their trigger hand to do it. With a bullpup, you can use your off-hand, like you would with a pistol. I'm not really an experienced rifle shooter, my main long arm being a shotgun, but I'd imagine the bullpup is actually a bit easier on the reload. Of course, if you need a reload, that's kind of an ugly situation in any case.

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 03:43 PM

Re: Cool Guns for your Games On the subject of "If you need to reload, you're already hosed" I stumbled across this looking for something completely different, and figured it was worth sharing.

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 03:47 PM

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On the subject of "If you need to reload, you're already hosed" I stumbled across this looking for something completely different, and figured it was worth sharing.


I want that as a weapon mod for DOOM 3.

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 03:59 PM

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On the subject of "If you need to reload, you're already hosed" I stumbled across this looking for something completely different, and figured it was worth sharing.


Appropriate...it looks like it could fire a whole truckload of ammo in 10 seconds.

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 04:55 PM

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--and finally the israeli Tavor assault rifle which is what got me on this in the first place very cool looking I'm sure it will be subbing fro space age weaponry all over holly wood very soon


I was thinking the same thing about the H&K G11--

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%26K_G11

--that you could swipe its appearance for a prototype railgun, or laser or plasma rifle that the PCs have to steal or recover.

Good finds, everyone.

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 07:28 PM

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Chechen Self-Made Weapons

'cause not all guns are cool-lookin'

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