Old Man Posted June 22, 2022 Report Posted June 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Logan.1179 said: Snyder's such an idiot. Is he though? So far he has escaped any serious consequences and still owns an NFL team. Total fines for a legendary history of harassment were 4% of the team's annual profits for one year. The park ranger who blew the whistle on his illegal clearcutting had his career destroyed. This latest scandal should piss off the NFL and Congress and the IRS so maybe it'll stick, but I'm not holding my breath. Quote
Pariah Posted June 22, 2022 Author Report Posted June 22, 2022 Seriously, though, what did we expect for Snyder? Real consequences? Consequences are for poor people, women, and people of color. Quote
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted June 22, 2022 Report Posted June 22, 2022 47 minutes ago, Old Man said: Is he though? So far he has escaped any serious consequences and still owns an NFL team. Is that due to his brain power or the fact that he's a white billionaire? Perhaps I'm being overly cynical. Quote
Old Man Posted June 22, 2022 Report Posted June 22, 2022 32 minutes ago, Logan.1179 said: Is that due to his brain power or the fact that he's a white billionaire? Perhaps I'm being overly cynical. No, I'm the one being cynical here. Snyder is fully aware that he gets to play by a different set of rules, and is taking advantage. Quote
unclevlad Posted June 26, 2022 Report Posted June 26, 2022 Watson's hearing is set to begin Tuesday. That *should* mean an initial decision before the Browns open training camp, which is set for the 22nd for rookies...26th for vets. There is a right of appeal...but that's to Goodell. This is a hearing, tho, held before the disciplinary officer joinitly selected by the league and the players association...so it strikes me as unlikely that any appeal will work. Reports are that the league's pushing for indefinite suspension, but at least a year. I could live with a year; I'd rather it was longer, but that's hard to pull off. And if he continues, or the remaining trials make it warranted...it can be longer. Quote
Pariah Posted June 26, 2022 Author Report Posted June 26, 2022 I saw a fun headline the other day: "Future Detroit Lions number one overall pick Arch Manning commits to Texas." pinecone 1 Quote
Pariah Posted June 28, 2022 Author Report Posted June 28, 2022 NFL recommends indefinite suspension of no less than a year for Browns QB Deshaun Watson Quote
unclevlad Posted June 28, 2022 Report Posted June 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, Pariah said: NFL recommends indefinite suspension of no less than a year for Browns QB Deshaun Watson Let's start the chant now... Life...Time...Ban! Life...Time...Ban! (OK, that's never gonna happen, but we can dream.) Plus...the Texans being complicit in arranging this is relatively new. I haven't heard of the league planning to address *that*. Figure they will, tho. This doesn't rise to the level of Snyder/Washington, but if they are complicit as facilitators? *SMACK!!!* There's a linked opinion piece to that story...subscribers only. But here's the head and lead: Quote NFL owners' filth has stained Roger Goodell, and he may no longer be useful | Opinion Commissioner Roger Goodell has long been a shield for NFL owners, but after years of protecting Dan Snyder and others, he may be too damaged for them. Goodell got hammered in the hearings, so...I could see this. His contract expires in March 2024. I don't think the owners would try to boot him at this point, but...I could see them deciding to make a change, to try to put these ugly scandals behind em. Not like Roger'd need to go on food stamps. Forbes estimates he'd be the 6th highest paid CEO.......among Standard & Poor's 500 companies. (That may be misleading...salary only, not stock options, for example. Still...) He's estimated to be worth a tidy $200M...NOT counting close to $130M in salary for the next 2 years. Quote
Cancer Posted June 28, 2022 Report Posted June 28, 2022 Of course, a question they should ask themselves (but won't) is ... whom could they get that would be better? Quote
Pariah Posted June 28, 2022 Author Report Posted June 28, 2022 The rotting corpse of Pat Bowlen? Quote
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted June 28, 2022 Report Posted June 28, 2022 7 hours ago, Cancer said: Of course, a question they should ask themselves (but won't) is ... whom could they get that would be better? No, the question is who could they get that would be willing to put up with all their b&*s*#$? It pays a lot, but it's a crap job. Quote
unclevlad Posted June 28, 2022 Report Posted June 28, 2022 For $60M a year, I can put up with a lot of BS. Condoleezza Rice, perhaps? She might not want it, and likely is older than they'd want at 67. But, some of the problem with Goodell could be ascribed to tenure; he's been in place for 16 years. So...4 years, 4 year extension, the retire? Even if it is a crap job, I don't think there will be any shortage of applicants. Quote
unclevlad Posted June 28, 2022 Report Posted June 28, 2022 Baker Mayfield, on camera: "I think it's pretty obvious the mutual decision on both sides is to move on." No surprise, just confirmation. And once that's coming out in public, it seems basically impossible to backtrack. Nothing notable on the Watson hearing. It's expected to continue, with a decision by the end of the week. Hoping for the best.............. Quote
Cygnia Posted June 28, 2022 Report Posted June 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, unclevlad said: Hoping for the best.............. A meteor striking a certain Browns QB football player that's not Mayfield counts as "best", right? Quote
unclevlad Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Cygnia said: A meteor striking a certain Browns QB football player that's not Mayfield counts as "best", right? Oh, come now, we need something more inventive to call "the best"....and do we wanna let him off that easy? I'm not sure it's possible to maximize the degree to which both Watson and the Browns get hosed, at the same time. If really ugly details come out? The Browns next year are NOT on the hook for the full $46M, it's all base salary. They'd be on the hook for the bonuses, which is $9M a year. Still a fair bit to just sink. You didn't mention when, either. The recent angle...what were the Texans doing? They slip off the hook, most likely, if Watson dies, or is unable to participate. Hey, who knows...if he's suspended for the year, and the appeal is rejected or denied quickly, there is no reason to delay the litigation until the off-season, so let's hear as much as we can, and maybe Watson gets a lifetime ban, and gets stuck for millions more for the rest of the cases...AND the Texans get double teamed, paying for the civil cases, then getting *hammered* by the league. Quote
Old Man Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Cygnia said: A meteor striking a certain Browns QB football player that's not Mayfield counts as "best", right? What did Jacoby Brissett do to deserve that? Quote
unclevlad Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 55 minutes ago, Old Man said: What did Jacoby Brissett do to deserve that? He got a SB ring for sitting on his backside all year...well, most of it. With the *Pats*. The year Brady started the year under suspension for Deflategate. He came in for a couple games after Jimmy G got hurt in week 2. Some things cling longer than others......when I want them to. Quote
unclevlad Posted July 5, 2022 Report Posted July 5, 2022 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/07/a-divided-base-fans-even-families-split-over-loyalty-to-cleveland-browns-amid-deshaun-watson-controversy.html Quote
unclevlad Posted July 5, 2022 Report Posted July 5, 2022 Autopsy shows Demaryius Thomas had stage 2 CTE when he died, per family members. Story, and stages outlined:https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2022/07/05/cte-explained-symtpoms-stages-nfl/7812410001/ I doubt anyone's terribly surprised; it's more confirmation of what we suspected. Still doesn't help the league, given how young he was, and given it'd gotten that advanced. Cygnia 1 Quote
Old Man Posted July 6, 2022 Report Posted July 6, 2022 3 hours ago, unclevlad said: Autopsy shows Demaryius Thomas had stage 2 CTE when he died, per family members. Story, and stages outlined:https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2022/07/05/cte-explained-symtpoms-stages-nfl/7812410001/ I doubt anyone's terribly surprised; it's more confirmation of what we suspected. Still doesn't help the league, given how young he was, and given it'd gotten that advanced. One of the links at the bottom of that article mentioned that Vincent Jackson, who I hadn't even realized had passed away, also had stage 2 CTE when he died in February. I had both Jackson and Thomas on various fantasy teams. I'm not sure how to feel about that. Quote
unclevlad Posted July 6, 2022 Report Posted July 6, 2022 11 hours ago, Old Man said: One of the links at the bottom of that article mentioned that Vincent Jackson, who I hadn't even realized had passed away, also had stage 2 CTE when he died in February. I had both Jackson and Thomas on various fantasy teams. I'm not sure how to feel about that. I think I'd heard about Jackson...but didn't hear the CTE confirmation, I don't think. Either way, yeah, I'd forgotten. Jackson was all of 38. Next time you feel like screaming about a player getting ejected for a dubious helmet-to-helmet, you might want to remember these two... Quote
Pariah Posted July 6, 2022 Author Report Posted July 6, 2022 Hello, Carolina! Baker Mayfield traded to Panthers: Disgruntled Browns QB headed to Carolina for conditional pick Quote
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted July 6, 2022 Report Posted July 6, 2022 Good for him! Glad something went right for him, he did nothing wrong in this whole Browns fiasco. Quote
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