unclevlad Posted December 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Yeah, it went as expected, pretty much. TCU stayed 3, OSU rose to 4. USC dropped to 10 (!). EARLY!!! lines, Georgia -6.5 vs. OSU, Michigan -9.5 vs. TCU. And of course the Miss Congeniality bowl games start on the 16th this year. What I like is, many weekdays have late morning or afternoon games to put on, for background noise if nothing else. Oh, and somehow the NMSU Aggies got into a bowl game. They were 5-6 (the game Saturday against FCS Valpo didn't count for this), but they cancelled the one game because a San Jose State player was killed in a freaking scooter crash. That game couldn't be rescheduled. Plus: there weren't enough 6-6 teams to fill out the bowl roster. There's 131 teams...and 41 bowls counting the 2 CFP games. That's 82 out of 131, so it's not hard to understand that finding that much mediocrity...can be difficult. So the NCAA put them ahead of the 5-7 teams, and it turned out...they got one of the spots. One of the really mediocre spots, mind...Arizona Bowl, the day after Christmas. Arguably the least desirable slot in the entire schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Wow! Gators vs Beavers in Las Vegas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Beavers in Las Vegas? Preposterous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Wow, you guys are playing the Beavers? Dam. BoloOfEarth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 The unending orange is going to cause brain trauma, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 I will point out that this year's Orange Bowl features Tennessee vs. Clemson. slikmar and Logan D. Hurricanes 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 So, Gators QB declared for the draft and said he's skipping the bowl game. Their backup QB had already been kicked off the team for child porn charges. This game is going to be... interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Logan D. Hurricanes said: So, Gators QB declared for the draft and said he's skipping the bowl game. Their backup QB had already been kicked off the team for child porn charges. This game is going to be... interesting. Well, the charges aren't exactly typical...but skipping the bowl games is. And to a lesser extent, so is having players get suspended for being idiots...not to the level of felony charges...on the road, semi-bored, fancy setting. It's one of the two reasons why betting...at least outside the CFP games...on bowl games is IMO nothing more than a crapshoot. The other big reason is, who wants to be there, and who doesn't? UCLA is stuck with the Sun Bowl. El Paso...? Y'all ever been there? BLEAH! NOT on my list of 1000 Best Destination Vacations. The payout is actually better than I thought...$4.5M puts it 11th among the 'regular' bowls, which is still fairly good. But Washington got the Alamo Bowl, and Oregon got the Holiday Bowl. (USC and Utah were going to get the top 2 spots...Rose and Cotton.) And if we drop down to the mini-bowls...especially those well before Christmas (Bahamas, Cure, Frisco Idaho Potato)...one might also throw in issues with trying to get through finals, to remain eligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 I wonder how NIL will affect bowl gift packages? They were allowed about $600 in total value last year so I wonder if that will significantly increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 33 minutes ago, Grailknight said: I wonder how NIL will affect bowl gift packages? They were allowed about $600 in total value last year so I wonder if that will significantly increase. Good question. My feeling is, at least for the next couple years, it won't. Bowl gift packages are getting too close, IMO, to pay-to-play, and that's the line in the sand, I think. NIL can't be run by the school. Bowl gift packages aren't run by the school either but it's directly connected with being on the team. It feels like hairsplitting...but that's nothing new. Also note that quite often, it's...pretty trashy. Bowl-branded stuff? Ugh. OK, fine, it's "something to remember the experience by!!!" Not something you want. Last week, a watch auction finished up...for charity, with a tie-in to football. 3-4 of the watches were swag...and just awful. This is a list of the swag from each game last year:https://www.masslive.com/sports/2021/12/college-football-bowl-game-player-gifts-heres-the-swag-players-staff-get-for-each-bowl-game.html Many of these include a gift suite...I presume this is "open up a presentation room, fill it with a bunch of stuff, let the players pick". Hard to gauge. You can expect that the bigger games have better gift suites, of course. Other than that, commemorative football...? Ehhh. OTOH...nice noise-cancelling headphones can be good...but lots of players will have something like that. Me, I'd just prefer the Cheez-It Bowl's $400 Amazon gift cert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 The Fiesta Bowl seems like the best for me. Playstation 5's for every player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Report: BYU To Hire Weber State’s Jay Hill As Defensive Coordinator Jay Hill is the winningest football coach in Weber State's (mostly ignominious) history. He turned the Wildcats from a Big Sky afterthought into a consistent FCS playoff contender. He has been to Weber State what LaVell Edwards was to BYU a generation ago. I'm not sure how Weber State replaces him. It is kind of a strange hire in one way. School bylaws require that the head coach be an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which I don't believe Jay Hill is. So there's no opportunity for promotion there. But he will now be a coordinator of a Big XII team, and that could open up opportunities elsewhere down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Pariah said: Report: BYU To Hire Weber State’s Jay Hill As Defensive Coordinator Jay Hill is the winningest football coach in Weber State's (mostly ignominious) history. He turned the Wildcats from a Big Sky afterthought into a consistent FCS playoff contender. He has been to Weber State what LaVell Edwards was to BYU a generation ago. I'm not sure how Weber State replaces him. It is kind of a strange hire in one way. School bylaws require that the head coach be an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which I don't believe Jay Hill is. So there's no opportunity for promotion there. But he will now be a coordinator of a Big XII team, and that could open up opportunities elsewhere down the road. That's exactly it. Couple days ago, Sean Lewis left Kent State's head coaching job...a Group of 5 school...to be OC at Colorado, nominally a Power 5. (Proving that labels can be grossly misleading.) Here, you've got FCS to what will be Power 5. Massive increase in visibility. It opens 2 doors...HC for Power 5 or Group of 5, or OC for a more-visible Power 5...think SEC or Big 10 for starters. Hill is 47, so while he's got time left and apparently something of a name to move up to an FBS HC...this could work out faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 Football-playing schools in ASUN and WAC considering jumping from FCS to create new FBS conference, per report The schools involved include Stephen F. Austin, Utah Tech, Eastern Kentucky, Austin Peay, Abilene Christian, Southern Utah, Tarleton State, Central Arkansas and North Alabama. Texas-Rio Grande Valley would also be involved once its fledgling football program comes online. There would be a 2-year transition period, and the NCAA would have to approve the formation of a football-only league, something that currently isn't allowed in FBS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Pariah said: Football-playing schools in ASUN and WAC considering jumping from FCS to create new FBS conference, per report The schools involved include Stephen F. Austin, Utah Tech, Eastern Kentucky, Austin Peay, Abilene Christian, Southern Utah, Tarleton State, Central Arkansas and North Alabama. Texas-Rio Grande Valley would also be involved once its fledgling football program comes online. There would be a 2-year transition period, and the NCAA would have to approve the formation of a football-only league, something that currently isn't allowed in FBS. And if you had any doubt as to why? First, Shame On You!!! There is only one reason anything like this EVER gets done. Second, from the ESPN story: Quote Also, the schools expect increased revenue through a more lucrative broadcast contract and increased guarantee-game revenue because the games would count toward bowl eligibility if they became an FBS league. And they'd probably get 1 or 2 teams to qualify for bowls, altho probably the little baby bowls. (Couple bowls pay each school about what a Power 5 pays an NMSU for a regular season beatdown...but that's all.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 So did anyone watch the Heisman Award...more specifically, more than the last 5 minutes of the telecast, when the actual award takes place? Me either. Caleb Williams of USC. Saw some of his play, off and on...pretty crazy stuff there. USC's defense was shaky, so Williams hadda do a bunch. That means he gets to cash in on NIL like Bryce Young did this year...ya gotta figure that Young pocketed a *bundle* for the Fansville ads. Williams is NOT draft-eligible for '23; he's only played 2 years, it has to be 3. But the NIL money will probably soothe the pain to a good degree........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 Mississippi State coach Mike Leach hospitalized in 'critical condition' with 'personal health issue' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Pariah said: Mississippi State coach Mike Leach hospitalized in 'critical condition' with 'personal health issue' NOT!! good. From the Mississippi Clarion Ledger: Quote Mississippi State football coach Mike Leach had a massive heart attack on Sunday in Starkville and was transferred to University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson, where he is still being cared for on Monday. According to multiple sources, Leach, 61, collapsed at his home in Starkville, but did not receive medical attention for between 10 to 15 minutes. EMTs used a defibrillator machine and delivered multiple shocks to restore normal heart rhythm. It's the time factor that causes me the most concern, even more than characterizing it as massive. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 Sad news in the world of college football today: Mike Leach dies at 61: Mississippi State coach, 'Air Raid' innovator had complications from heart condition unclevlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 He was the winningest coach in the school's history, going 108-93 over 15 seasons and winning the Commander In Chief's Trophy six times. According to former Navy coach Ken Niumatalolo, Navy athletic director Chet Gladchuk fired him just minutes after they lost 20-17 in double overtime to Army in Philadelphia when he was sitting by himself at his locker in the locker room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Pariah said: He was the winningest coach in the school's history, going 108-93 over 15 seasons and winning the Commander In Chief's Trophy six times. According to former Navy coach Ken Niumatalolo, Navy athletic director Chet Gladchuk fired him just minutes after they lost 20-17 in double overtime to Army in Philadelphia when he was sitting by himself at his locker in the locker room Sounds like the AD is prioritizing winning, as if Navy was a Power 5 school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 As if Navy were just another college football program period. There are bigger concerns for these young men than their college won-lost records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 There are bigger goals established by the academies, for those people, than winning or losing. I kinda wonder if the AD is going to get a lecture from the Commandant, altho the guy's been there for over 20 years. Or maybe...he's 71. Perhaps he'll be...politely...requested to step down. Here's his official bio: https://navysports.com/staff-directory/chet-gladchuk/1 So there's a lot of "money talks" in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 Mississippi State is going to play in their bowl game, to honor Mike Leach. The game isn't until Jan. 2nd...which tells you, it's a big game anyway. It's the former Outback Bowl; they ended their affiliation a few years ago. This late gives everyone a reasonable amount of time to work through the debilitating stages of grief, most likely. This will not be a team with dubious motivation. They might be overly hyped...but they will be up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted December 16, 2022 Report Share Posted December 16, 2022 Colorado School of Mines, the state's premiere engineering school, is sending their football team to the Division II national championship game for the first time in school history. And the Denver Broncos are helping get them there. Broncos owners catch Mines football fever, donate $100K for student transportation to Division II championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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