Pegasus Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 I'm looking for the warrior archetype that best represents every country. I can only think of a few, and as always they are open to debate. I already have the easy ones, so I need some input from those who are more historically gifted than I. Here's how I'm starting: America: Cowboy Japan: Shogun England: Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes Well... Turkey: Janissary Italy: Legionaire(Rome) Persia(Iran): Immortals Greece: Phalanx or Hoplite Russia: Cossack...or Streltsi India: Sepoys France: Musketeer Mongolia: Mangudai Spain: Conquistador Germany: Teutonic Knight Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes I'm looking for the warrior archetype that best represents every country. I can only think of a few, and as always they are open to debate. I already have the easy ones, so I need some input from those who are more historically gifted than I. Here's how I'm starting: America: Cowboy Japan: Shogun England: Knight Aztec warriors in Mexico. Zulu warriors in parts of Africa. Vikings in scandinavian countries. Drug lords in Columbia. Oh, wait. Sorry, my stereotypes ran away with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes Roman Gladiators in Italy. Amazons in Greece. Just for diversity. Mongols in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silbeg Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes "Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys" for France? Is my addiction to the Simpson's showing? D'oh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proditor Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes China: Shaolin Warrior-monks or a nameless faceless infantry soldier depending on era. America: At this point, I'd almost argue the US Marine over the cowboy in terms of recognition, but that's up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes France- Jean Paul Sartre Germany - Skinny white guy in skin-tight black jeans and a turtle-neck. Monkey optional. America - 450+ pound woman in skin-tight green pants and a pink halter top. At least 35 pounds of bodyweight consists of hair. Japan - a small group of bone skinny sararimen in grey business suits. Wearing panties as face-masks optional. England - Angry skinny college kids. Beer mandatory. Australia - Widely grinning scuzzy beach-bum types. Beer inseparable. Russia - Skinny, muscular yet unhealthy balding middle aged men in t-shirts and jeans. Vodka bottles actually form part of arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vondy Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes Israel, Modern: the Sayaret (SF) operator (male) or the Metzada (Mossad extralegal ops) operative (female - the mossad has openly stated women make better spies). Israel, Ancient: the prophet-warrior (Joshua, Sampson, Gideon, King David). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbsousa Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes France: Carolingian Spain: Conquistador Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatwyrm Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes How about the native American warrior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes For Mexico, over the Aztec warrior I prefer "The Masked Wrestler!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDU Neil Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes How about the native American warrior? Especially since the term "warrior" is, IIRC, a Native American term that has become broad in it's general use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes How about the native American warrior? The archetypical image of the American Indian Warrior would be a Plains tribesman in war paint on the back of his Horse and kicking #@$! An image so ingrained, that other tribes not of the plains end up groaning when some hollywood movie has all indians of ANY Tribe depicted as living in teepees... again! I know at least one Cherokee who would like to slap a few Hollywood writers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes India - the surly tech support guy China - the Kowloon street punk Mexico - the bitter construction worker Canada - the smug feminist Muslim convert Spain - Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisUlf Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes Well... Persia(Iran): Immortals Rob For Persia, I'd prefer something more like Rustam -- a mace-wielding hero with superhuman strength. That aside, the Persian word for noble hero is Pahlavan; basically, think a heavily-armored horseman with a touchy code of honor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes Canada's warrior archetype would obviously be the Mountie. The strong competent men of the law who never rest untill they catch their crook. Decked out in the classic red uniform of course, even though that hasn't been worn for actual field work for a century or so I think, now it's just a dress uniform. Oh and they're always completely polite at all times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes I'm looking for the warrior archetype that best represents every country. I can only think of a few, and as always they are open to debate. I already have the easy ones, so I need some input from those who are more historically gifted than I. Here's how I'm starting: America: Cowboy Japan: Shogun England: Knight Japan should be "samurai." The Shogun was just the military dictator. Knights are fairly archetypical for England, France, Spain, Germany, and any country with a strong history of feudalism and chivalry. However, the English longbowman was fairly archetypical for a while. Also, the Swiss pikeman and/or halberder would be a good choice, and from the same time period, the German Landsknechte (lit. "servant of the country") would be a good fit. Italy could also use the Roman soldier, who's become almost a stereotype in his lorica segmetata, tower shield, helm, short sword, spear, and sandals. The Beduin in robes with scimitar and long rifle is another good one for North Africa, as well as the Zulu warrior for southern Africa. America's warrior archetype I think is the GI, who's rough looking, worn, tired, and fights like hell when needed. Summed up by that classic duo, Willie and Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisUlf Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes The archetypical image of the American Indian Warrior would be a Plains tribesman in war paint on the back of his Horse and kicking #@$! An image so ingrained, that other tribes not of the plains end up groaning when some hollywood movie has all indians of ANY Tribe depicted as living in teepees... again! I know at least one Cherokee who would like to slap a few Hollywood writers Just one? Of course, you want some wrath from the Red Man, go and ask Indians what they think of the New Age and 'plastic medicine men'. Myself, when it comes to the North American Indian warrior, I tend to think Pacific Northwest, the Apache ("If you don't think an Apache can tell right from wrong -- just wrong one, and see what happens."), and the Mississipians, who deserve waaay more exposure that they've ever gotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheiro Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes The Maori warrior is something I've kicked around in my head as a character concept. That war dance (forgive my ignorance; I don't know it's name) is pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes Another American 'warrior' template is the Biker. The Rebel of the highway on the back of a HD replete with long hair, leather, and shades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Cross Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes Cheiko,"that war dance" is called the haka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheiro Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes Thank you Southern Cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corven_Ren Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes I have a few ideas America: Native American Warrior...not that I have any problem with cowboys or marines but they were here 1st and they exemplify what this country is about as they were truly a free people. Scotland: Celtic warrior, weaing of course traditional kilt and wielding a claymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Major Tom Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes Let's not forget Korea's version of the wandering Chinese knight -- the Hwarang (not sure if that's the correct spelling or not). I think Australia's warrior archetype would probably be the Bushman (remember the scene towards the end of Quigley Down Under? One moment, the hills around where Quigley's having his standoff with the Brits are empty, then the next, the Bushmen've pulled their own version of the Rorke's Drift scene from Zulu and have surrounded everybody). Major Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted September 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Re: National Warrior Archetypes Good ideas, people. Thanks. Keep 'em coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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