kahuna's bro Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Re: Avatars: The -other- Patriots " It may sound strange for a combat-oriented genre like superheroes, but "Peace" would make for an interesting hero: passive defenses like Missile Deflection or Desolid, or "peacemaking" Powers such as Entangle, Mind Control or various Drains. or dc comics chracter the DOVE from the HAWK and the DOVE dove was an avatar of the lords of order whilwe hawk was the avatar of the lords of chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Kudzu Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Re: Avatars: The -other- Patriots The Hero System setting book Gestalt is about the best thing I've seen for doing a campaign based on avatars of concepts. I really recommend it. ...thanks for the recommendation. Looked decent, so I picked it up through RPGNow... - Uncle K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Re: Avatars: The -other- Patriots Just to ignore the rest of your post and focus annoyingly on a single thing you brought up - Dadaism. The Champions campaign book mentions in passing the avatar of dadaism Avant Guard. Has anyone out there given any thought to writing up this intriguing character? If so, please share. I don't think that my boringly linear mind is up to the task and am interested in other peoples ideas. Just so you'll know, Avant Guard received a full 5E write-up in Villains, Vandals, And Vermin. I would expect him to be updated to 6E in Champions Villains. In short, Avant Guard is a duplicating, shapeshifting, teleporting, gadget-using lunatic of unknown origin and completely unpredictable behavior, often absurd or comical, sometimes deadly serious and violent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawknight Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Re: Avatars: The -other- Patriots "the old Champions adventure Wrath of the Seven Horsemen introduced a great gimmick for generating this kind of character " This was the way I created Libertyman. A Primus Silver Avenger, he was hit with the scepter's ray and a radiation blast that caused him to powerup without being controlled by Terror. He had a total Patriot slant, like Captain America in the '70s, and while he always backed up his teammates or guest star heroes, he lectured about democracy, freedoms and what you had to do to earn them. Was a hoot to piss off my fellow players and got me alot of roleplaying experience points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Re: Avatars: The -other- Patriots Just so you'll know' date=' Avant Guard received a full 5E write-up in [i']Villains, Vandals, And Vermin[/i]. I would expect him to be updated to 6E in Champions Villains. In short, Avant Guard is a duplicating, shapeshifting, teleporting, gadget-using lunatic of unknown origin and completely unpredictable behavior, often absurd or comical, sometimes deadly serious and violent. Thanks, I own that one. I had forgotten that I made a request for write-up for the character here, but his inclusion did play a role in my buying the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Agenda Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Re: Avatars: The -other- Patriots I love Gestalt, it was a great inspiration to my Alts campaign, but I would really love to see a The Ultimate Avatar book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Re: Avatars: The -other- Patriots Most of the biggest superheroes have attached symbolism and could be regarded as an "avatar". For example Iron Man stands for American technology and industry. Superman is basically DC's Captain America, even though he's technically not a flagsuit. Wonder Woman is Woman. Batman is Fear of the Dark. Oddly enough though, Spiderman doesn't really fit. He's not really the Avatar of Being A Dweeby Teenager People Pick On. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Re: Avatars: The -other- Patriots Spidey is the "everyman makes good" and point of order, should not Cap be compared to Supes, not the otherway around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palaskar Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Re: Avatars: The -other- Patriots Well, I'm kinda surprised that these virtues were left out: humilty courage, truth, love honor, sacrifice, justice spirituality they're from Ultima's .... wait for it.... The Avatar series of Ultima games On a more series, I think these virtues could be reworked into something that doesn't steal from RIchard Garriot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Re: Avatars: The -other- Patriots Gestalt: The Hero Within by Blackwyrm Games (Champions) http://www.ezhero.com/Gestalt.htm Gestalt: Architects of Change by Blackwyrm Games (Champions) (In Development) http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72615 [Review] Gestalt: The Hero Within http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php/60560-Review-Gestalt-The-Hero-Within Cheers QM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Archer Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Re: Avatars: The -other- Patriots Ghost Archer: "Knew an avatar, once upon a time . . . never again." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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