Vigil Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 In tribute to the great Ten Best Bricks thread, how about this one, the Ten Best Energy Projectors. It's a pretty wide and impressive field but Ive left out the mystics (maybe wrongly) since they're kinda borderline energy projectors (and borderline eveything) but have included the cosmic types and brick hybrids. So good luck. Can't wait to see what the consensus is if any. Marvel's Top Ten Energy Projectors (unranked, except for the Surfer): 1) The Silver Surfer 2) Magneto 3) Invisble Woman 4) Captain Marvel 2/Photon (Monica Rambeau) 5) Cyclops (as pure an energy projector as it gets) 6) Havok (ditto but with cooler SFX) 7) Iron Man 8) Human Torch 9) Quasar 10) Thor It's an unusual list and there's zillions of others who qualify but it's start. Vigil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors Magneto is more of a Controller than a Blaster. Unless something has significantly changed since I collected the Invisible Woman isnt a Blaster either. Firestar is a pretty powerful Blaster Blackstar...the Inhuman King is a uber powerful Blaster Banshee was pretty crazy in his hey day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors 1) Cyclops 2) Human Torch 3) Iceman 4) Invisible Woman 5) Havok 6) Banshee 7) Dr. Strange 8) Silver Surfer 9) Iron Man 10) Phoenix (Jean) Ok, assuming we’re talking coolest/favorite and not most powerful. Included here are energy manipulators, but not gadgeteers. Thoughts on others: Storm would have been on here years ago, but I just really don’t care for her anymore. Never liked (Rachel) Phoenix, or (Monica) Captain Marvel. Don’t much like Justice. Sunfire, Siryn, and Polaris would be in the next ten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Serpent Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors 1. Human Torch (tie) Human Torch 2. Magneto 3. Captain Marvel (II) 4. Cyclops 5. Storm 6. Klaw 7. Radioactive Man 8. Unicorn 9. X-Ray (from the U-Foes) 10. everybody else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_CCHKK Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors Blackstar...the Inhuman King is a uber powerful Blaster That's Black Bolt you're thinking of. And, yes, yes he is - Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbdaury Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors In no particular order: Silver Surfer Quasar Captain Mar-vell(either one) Phoenix(Rachel Summers) Havok Electro(actually quite powerful but a loser nontheless) Sunfire Dazzler(as long as there is enough sound around her- see her fight against Klaw) Songbird Black Bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted January 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors I'd contemplated Black Bolt, for my list, as well as Blastaar and Annihilus, maybe they should have made it. I guess Galactus counts as an Energy Projector but that just may not be fair at all. Then you'd have to include the Stranger and the Celestials and why not the Beyonder? But still none of them throw a zap like Cyclops, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted January 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors Oh yeah, and I think the controller vs projector thing may be a distinction without a difference. Magneto, for instance controls magnetism but he throws one of the meanest EBs in the MU when he wants to. Graviton too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors Human Torch (My original superhero idol) (Oh, man...just imagined a TV show called superhero idol, where Simon Cowl...dressed in a cowl, sneers at their choice of dress and how they rescue damsels) Anywho.... Human Torch Silver Surfer (Wouldn't have thought of him but he's a good choice) Iron Man [simpsons Reference]"Wait, I have a campaign song too!......I am IRON MAN, Du nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh Vote for me!"[/simpsons reference] Wow, I better get out of here before I go on another tangent!-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors NOVA, female herald of Galactus, thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted January 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors Other than the Surfer, who is the ultimate MU energy projector (barring the Elders and Power Wielders) I think the greatest energy projector among the heralds (maybe even on par with the Surfer) is Air Walker. He seemed to control not just air but raw energy in a way no other herald ever has. He was ultimately cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austenandrews Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors Man, I couldn't begin to narrow down that field. Okay, that's a lie, because I'm going to give it a shot. Cyclops the Human Torch Storm Phoenix the Scarlet Witch Magneto Electro Dr. Strange Iceman would Hawkeye count? I don't feel Iron Man is rightly here, as he's just as likely to punch it out as anything. If I included him, I'd have to put Dr. Doom on the list as well. I didn't include the Silver Surfer because he's, well, really goofy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st barbara Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors Personally I would include "Hawkeye" in the "Gadgeteer/Weapon Master" classification. He is a crack shot with a bow and his various arrows are a "gadget pool" in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted January 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors I agree. I don't see Haweye as primarily or even secondarily and energy projector. He's more a Weapons Master/MA type. I inckuded Iron Man because of his flexibility as brick/energy projector but it's equally arguable that he shouldn't be included because he's more of a gadgeteer or even a brick. Same goes for Unicorn (who's a really great choice, btw, and a really underused character). It's these damn hybrids that screw everything up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors In no particular order Human Torch. Cyclops Silver Surfer Captain Marvel II X-Ray (from U foes) The Invisible Woman (Sorry, she has a force blast, force fields, and so on... she fits fine by champions definition) Firestar (her microwavery hotness) Electro Magneto Binary (okay, she's back to Brick mode now, but hey) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted January 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors Y'know, it's interesting what Killer Shrike and Log said about the distinction between pure energy projectors ("blasters") and energy manipulators or controllers. If you differentiate that way, I thinkI would create two rather different lists. So...that being said... Marvel's Top Ten Energy Projectors (Blasters): 1) Blastaar (after all it's practically named after him) 2) Cyclops (still the archetype) 3) Havok (previously he had the coolest costume of all EPs) 4) Banshee (the best pure blaster of all, IMO) 5) Electro (may be a bit of an energy manipulator too) 6) Annihilus (one really really big EB) 7) Warbird 8) Dazzler 9) Moonstone 10) Nitro Marvel's Top Ten Energy Manipulators (Controllers): 1) The Silver Surfer (the Power Cosmic trumps anything else) 2) Magneto 3) Dr. Strange 4) Graviton 5) Captain Marvel 2 (Monica Rambeau) 6) Scarlet Witch 7) Invisible Woman 8) Sersi 9) Black Bolt 10) Firelord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trained Chicken Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors Are we talking about characetrs whose main power is an energy blast of some sort, or characters who control certain energies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted January 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors I was originally thinking of more straight up blaster types but the differentiation suggested by Log and Shrike (there's a gimmick legal firm for sure) struck me as worth exploring. It seems that in virtually every case the line is pretty gray, anyway. I can only think of a small handful of pure blasters (Blastaar, Cyclops and maybe Havok) so maybe that says something about how varied the whole archetype has become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted January 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors Come to think of it, can you think of 10 MAJOR characters in Marvel who just blast? Not fly and blast (although flight is an accepted energy projector attribute) or have super strength and blast but just plain old blast? It's tough to think of more than few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhamin Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors Come to think of it' date=' can you think of 10 MAJOR characters in Marvel who just blast? Not fly and blast (although flight is an accepted energy projector attribute) or have super strength and blast but just plain old blast? It's tough to think of more than few.[/quote'] Off the top of my head: - Cyclops - Havok - Living Laser - Avalanche - Dagger - Energizer (From Power Pack) - Electro - Jubilee - Sunfire Hmm. Cyc and Havok are the only "A" list players here, but I don't think the others are that obscure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors Well, Magneto might throw a mean blast, but its not the first thing that leaps to ones mind when you think "what would Magneto do?". I didnt mean a Controller as in an Energy Controller. I meant a general archetype or style of character. Controllers specialize in tieing up many opposing characters at once and generally bending things to their will. While they may have a vaneer of another type of character, its their ability to disrupt, hamper, hold, or otherwise hinder their opponents that defines them. As a side note, in the old Marvel Super Heroes Advanced supplement, The Ultimate Powers Book, Control was considered seperately from Emission. Here are some great old MSHA resources: http://www.classicmarvel.com/download/download_advanced.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austenandrews Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors Surely Pyro counts. He doesn't fly (or he didn't used to, anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard00 Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors No list from me. The definitions are too mercurial. I'll likely go over the Champions-defined archetypes again at some point in the near future and come up with suitable lists, but it gets too difficult to narrow down characters sometimes. Hawkeye--gadgeteer or energy projector? Pheonix--mentalist or energy projector? Iron Man--power armor, brick or energy projector? But Cyclops is my first choice, cuz yeah, he's the archetype. Iceman and Human Torch, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted January 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors Energy Projectors, moreso than most are difficult to define. Is it all a matter of SFX? In that case, virtually any character with a ranged attack of any sort could qualify (and even some without). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylwin13 Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 Re: Marvel's Ten Best, Continued...The Ten Best Energy Projectors Surely Pyro counts. He doesn't fly (or he didn't used to' date=' anyway).[/quote'] Actually, Pyro was a controller. He couldn't create or project his own flames. That's why he wore a small "flamethrower" as part of his costume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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