bigbywolfe Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC I thought he didn't like Watchmen anymore because people interpret it differently than he intended and don't take away the message they are "supposed to". He commented once that he was horrified when people started writing to him telling him how much they loved Rorschach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_A Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC I thought he didn't like Watchmen anymore because people interpret it differently than he intended and don't take away the message they are "supposed to". He commented once that he was horrified when people started writing to him telling him how much they loved Rorschach. I think he's commented on that more than once. Either way, he seems to like Watchmen about as much as Cassandra and Steamteck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexMundi Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC I liked Watchmen. ~Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbywolfe Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC I think he's commented on that more than once. Either way' date=' he seems to like Watchmen about as much as Cassandra and Steamteck.[/quote'] I don't know about that. In the link you posted he said he did not want it back and that he didn't want the prequel made because it would take away what was special about the original that he claims is literature. Doesn't sound likes he dislikes Watchmen as much as it sounds like he doesn't like other people playing in his sandbox, which would be understandable if he hadn't more or less copied the characters himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_A Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC I don't know about that. In the link you posted he said he did not want it back and that he didn't want the prequel made because it would take away what was special about the original that he claims is literature. Doesn't sound likes he dislikes Watchmen as much as it sounds like he doesn't like other people playing in his sandbox' date=' which would be understandable if he hadn't more or less copied the characters himself.[/quote'] I may have overstated things. However, I know that as far back as the early 90s he was not fond of all the Watchmen clones. Fast forward to 6:40 Even if Alan still likes Watchmen (and I don't think he does), he did do a lot of comics (Supreme, 1963, Judgement Day, etc.) that were the opposite of Watchmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC I thought he didn't like Watchmen anymore because people interpret it differently than he intended and don't take away the message they are "supposed to". He commented once that he was horrified when people started writing to him telling him how much they loved Rorschach. I know several people who think he's the only sensible character in the book. Once the work gets out there, you can't really control how its perceived. I liked Watchmen. I still do. Not the be-all and end-all of comics for me, but it still holds up as a read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC I know several people who think he's the only sensible character in the book. I think that's Moore's problem. People like that creep him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted November 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC Alan Moore reminds me of when they removed the restriction from movies in the late 1960s. For ever film that was enhanced by more realism you had a thousand that existed only to offend the audience. I don't have a problem with an author looking at superheroes in a different way as much as the abandonment of concepts like heroines, duty, and choice. Look at Catwoman in Batman Returns and Catwoman with Halle Berry. The character wasn't the cat burglar with a conscious that has graced the Darknight's universe from almost the beginning. Instead we had a woman transformed from someone shy and quiet into a over aggressive super powered anti-heroine. No choice, just "magic" without any real explanation except for convenience of the plot. Being a Hero, or a Villain is a Choice. Finding out the motivation is part of the fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKerensky Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC Marvel Worst: Having Frank Cho draw a whole serie with a lot of female character in it while he is unable to draw more than 2 different female face (1 in fact), make for the worst group scene ever, like a Clone Marvel Themed party at Liberty Meadows. Make me stop reading anything from him after this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC I like Frank Cho enough that I don't care that faces look alike. Seems like most artists can only drawn one or two bodies, so why not just a couple faces? Hal;f the reason for the uniforms is so they are easily identified anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKerensky Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC I like his drawing too so I passed it up... until he draw this group scene with nearly all the Marvel Female Superheroes on two pages and they were all the same girl with different uniform... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted December 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC Alex Ross women all look the same because he used the same model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC Annihilation was good on Marvel. Though diminished Groot is still Groot. Groot will not tolerate mockery. Mantis was great, and Super-Skrull, Nova, and Quasar. And then Raccoon nursing the seedling back at the end. Awesome shyte. I have not picked up a DC comic in years. and will not ... I could give you 5 dozen reasons, but putting a bullet through Blue Beetle's head was a big kicker. Stupid, Crass, Unnecessary Also DC is the home of Alan Moore, the father of Crass and Unnecessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted December 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC Good About Marvel Captain America as President of the United States. That should be as interesting as making Lex Luthor President (although according to the new DC continuity that never happened, which is the Bad about DC). Bad About Marvel Killing off Peter Parker. A desperate bid for readers as much as killing off Superman (Bad About DC) or bringing him back (Good About DC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_A Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC Good About Marvel Captain America as President of the United States. That should be as interesting as making Lex Luthor President (although according to the new DC continuity that never happened, which is the Bad about DC). I'm surprised you approve. Wasn't that in the Ultimate Universe? I would have thought that wasn't your preference. A desperate bid for readers as much as killing off Superman (Bad About DC) or bringing him back (Good About DC). That wasn't really a bid (desperate or otherwise) for readers. DC was surprised by the reaction and bringing Clark back was always in the cards. Personally, I thought everything DC did after bringing him back was desperate (Dead Again, The Death of Clark Kent, Electrosupes, Superman Red/Superman Blue, etc.) Also, I hated the President Luthor storyline. I hated the handling of Luthor from Byrne's tenure onward. To me, Superman is an inherently optimistic book. The character is responsible for a lot of my outlook and moral beliefs. I always wonder what morals I would have learned from the post-Byrne Luthor; that if you're rich enough, you can literally get away with murder? That if I have enough money, I can be an evil bastard who becomes POTUS? If it was a subplot in an Image Comic or a story arc in The Punisher I wouldn't have cared. As a Superman story, it was ridiculous (IMLTHO). Besides, how long would Lex have stayed free and untouched if he tried to fool Clark Kent; an indestructible investigative reporter with X-Ray Vision, Telescopic Vision, and Super-Hearing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC Only time I recall Steve Rogers being PotUS was in a What If? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC They made Captain America President in The Ulimate Universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC I do agree that everything DC has done since the Crisis on Infinite Earths has been desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC Good about Marvel David Hasselhoff as Nick Fury. The TV movie wasn't bad for what is was. And it did have Lisa Rinna in a catsuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC A "realistic" election in the DC universe would involve a choice between a candidate backed by Luthor (perhaps Luthor himself) and one backed by Morgan Edge (and Darkseid). This would, of course, occur after primaries against Bruce Wayne's candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC Bruce Wayne for President! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC Batman wouldn't like that. Too public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted December 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC Bad About Marvel Killing off Peter Parker This decision is so bad that the person who makes it will soon be hired by DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC This decision is so bad that the person who makes it will soon be hired by DC. "Must spread rep around before giving any to Cassandra again" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted January 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Re: The Good and Bad about Marvel and DC Good About Marvel Marvel's The Avengers. Bad About Marvel Marvel's The Avengers having no supervillains other then Loki. Come on Guys! Let's have the master villain recruit a few thugs like Electro, Enforcer, Fixer, Beetle, and toss in Diamondback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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