Duke Bushido

Mine is actually from"Traveller Hero", The party is hired to retrieve a runaway scion, along the way they find they are not the only ones looking for him. The other group is trying to kill him. Shortly after that they discover he is an Imperial prince, fifth in line to the throne. Much adventure some heartache (one of the party is lost permanently {shot out of a missile tube into a sun will do that}) they succeed. When they rendevous to hand over the princeling, the Imperial Chancellor greets him as "Your Majesty" there had been an attempted coup and the prince was the last of the Imperial line.  THe story arc took just under two years and was my second best storieline. 

Heh wow I had never considered that.  Its too cheap to allow but its a neat twist.

You cannot have darkness that covers the unusual sense group as a whole.  Each unusual sense is considered a completely different sense group.  So, you can have darkness to detect souls (in the unusual sense group), but that does not block another sense in the unusual sense group. You would have to buy each unusual sense as a separate sense.  This does mean when you build your enhanced sense you don’t get any sense groups modifiers for free.  Just build a sense from the ground up to counter this darkness.  It will probably be fairly expensive and if you want to use it to attack you will need at least ranged and targeting and probably sense.  
 
Naked Advantage will not even work. All a Naked Advantage does is allow you to buy an advantage or adder for a power or group of powers.  It does not allow you to create a power you could not create with the normal rules.  If you can build the power with naked advantage, you can build it without it.  
 
 
Something like this would work.  Detect Souls (unusual) Discriminatory, Ranged, Sense, Targeting for 27 Points.

I am just go8ng to throw rhis out there, because apparently in all the years since Naked Advantages became officially endorsed, only my players are the kind of creative jerks to try this:
 
 
Personal Immunity, Ranger, useable as attack.
 
 
Suddenly  you are untouchable by at least one opponent's favorite attack.
 
I didn't allow it, obviously, but it was fiendishly clever.
 
 
 
 

In general, my thought is, why does it need definition at all?  It's off the rack cold-weather gear, it's trivial and reasonably inexpensive to buy.  Not everything needs definition in game terms;  common sense is enough.

EDIT:  to expand on this, I feel like, if I start assigning game terms to things, then I have to abide by them.  I'd rather not.  What did you get, how good is it?  Are we talking a winter coat, or gear to run the Itidarod or something equally insane?  Conditions matter, too.  Went shopping earlier...well, yesterday now.  42 degrees, intermittent light rain...so humidity was high.  Little bit of wind.  Raw kind of day...felt quite a bit colder than 42, but dry and decently sunny with no breeze.  As long as I'm not stuck with game terms, I can say "oh man, you really want an extra under layer for your patrol tonight" and be done with it.

The pros:
 
Legal, copyright-holder-approved copies.
 
No watermarks, so you can print hardcopies if you want.
 
No DRM, though I do not know why this is a huge feature for legally buying legally-sold copies.  _especially_ for legally-minded people who wouldnt think of spreading them all over the universe.  Though I suppose it means you can out a copy into every comouter or gadget you own without fear of reprisal.  I am going to install To Serve and Protect from 3e Champions on my fridge, I think.
 
 
Copies are updated (with a fresh download) to reflect changes to the material-  a bettwr copy is found; an errata sheet is added, etc.
 
Extremely good pricing (the sooner you jump in, the better the pricing.  As the average paid rises, the algorithm raises the threshold.  Not a lot, but some days six bucks is the difference between yes and no. 
 
Permanent online storage of your material.  Still:  always download it and make a back up, just in case.
 
Your purchase helps support the cause of the day.  Often these causes are chosen by the publisher or author; I dont really know who picks when they don't.
 
Cons:  if you werent a Bundle of Holding user from way back, you have to make an accoubt at aome other website (I dont remember what it is; I had storage on BOH before the partnership with this other site, so it was donw automatically for me, and I still access it through BOH)
 
It isnt free. 
 
there is the usual "dont you really want to join PayPal" nonsense.
 
sometimes the bundle is releases with one or two different books that you _also_ want.
 
sometimes the bundle is released for less than you paid the first time.
 
Seriously-  that's it.
 
Oh:
 
Sometimes the bundle comes out _without_ the book you want, or worse:  it is usually the most-current edit or correction of that book.  If you want to savor a wonky rule or a horrible typo from the first go-around, it won't be there if it has been corrected.
 
And that is both a con and a pro, so it cancels itself out. 
 
 
Bundle of Holding is great. I mean _great_!  It is the only way I could have afforded to read Mongoose Traveller.
 
 
 

That reminded me of a juggler/comedian I saw once (I think on Saturday Night Live).  He was juggling an axe, a machete, and a cleaver.  When he held up the axe, he said, "This is actually the axe George Washington used to chop down the cherry tree.  I've just had to replace the handle... and the blade..."

Not really...I managed to get value out of this and will close it if need be...

What you have here is a GM call.
 
This is the same problem you run into with Drain, suppress, and a few other things:
 
Mechanics and special effects in Champions / HERO are intentionally separated.  They are also used to define each other.
 
That makes sense: you can't use a word to define itself; you have to use other words.  These things (mechanics and SFX) are purposely split apart here, so there will never be a problem.
 
 
Right up until Drain: Flight can remove the ability to fly from everyone in the room.  You know:  _everyone_.  The guy with the natural alien ability to fly.  The guy with the rocket pack.  The guy with the wings.  The guy that rides the ley lines across ancient trails of mana.  The alien that fills his float bladders with hydrogen.
 
They _all_ lose their flight because the _mechanic_ says so.
 
So I now have the power to destroy rocket packs, empty alien float bladders, rip wings off of falcon men, etc.  
 
And now I have to pick a special effect.  Well, my character is an alien parasite that has the ability to psychicaly drain away the metabolic functions that result in  flight energy.   Therefore, my target cannot provide chemical or photovoltaic energy to the cells that power his alien flight ability-
 
I mean wings
I mean gas bladders
I mean telekinetic self-lifting
I mean gravity manip-
 
Uh, magic ley line- no; jetpacks!  Definitely a parastic ability to destroy the metabolic process by which you control your rocket boots and-  crap!  Glider capes, too!
 
Wait!  What edition is this?  Is this an edition where I can take out swinglines with this, too?  And traceless ninja movement?  And keep the Flash from running up walls?
 
 
 
Tradition here is to "solve" this sort of conversation by suggesting some different SFX that can be better-stretched over the problem.  In this case gravity control, massive telekinetic powers. "Freakin' _magic_, Dude--!"
 
Yeah, well....  I don't want gravity control or ancient wizardry.  I want to be an alien parasite.
 
 
And the rules say I can.  I can be an alien parasite, and I can have Drain: Flight, and it can work metabolically, even against rocket boots and Bat grappling cannons, because the rules say special effects do not matter, really, so long as everyone is sort of cool with it, and  it is detectable by some number of senses (I think 2 or 3, depending on edition).
 
I picked Drain to highlight this because this is where it tends to be the most obvious: the unregulated clash of SFX, I mean.
 
It is a well-known, under-discussed problem, and it is created specifically by "build anything you want."  If what you want is kind of mismatched.....  Well, them's the breaks!
 
I don't remember if it was Champs I or Champs II,  but there have been attempts to solve the problem since 2e.  One of those supplements addressed the problem by offering alternative forms of Adjustment powers, such as replacing "Drain: Energy Blast" with "Drain: Firepowers."  
 
Alas, there wasn't too terribly much interest at least not in the growing shadow of the almost-immediately-after released 3e, which I do not recall having _any_ such options or discussion, but I never played 3e.,,I have only read it a couple of times, and even my most recent memories are stored in a very old brain. 
 
I know it wasn't discussed in 4e, at least not the core rules, and not 4e's Western HERO (while a lot of folks used DI or JI or even Dark Champions as their template for Heroic games, we used 2e Champions and guidance from 4e Western HERO).  Possibly Fantasy HERO, where it wouod have been ideal for maybe eighty-million spells, but I have only read it a coyple of times, and I do not remember if it was in there.
 
In fact, I don't think it was addressed again until Steve brought out a variant of the idea as an optional rule for one of his editions.  I could very well be wrong (I own and have never read both of the 4e HERO System Almanacs, for example.  There are some things I haven't read- I hope to live long enough).
 
Which brings us back to the beginning: this is squarely into GM territory.
 
As others have pointed out, there is not mechanical interaction between the two powers you mention.
 
_however_, if you feel that the special effects _should_ cause an interaction of some sort, or if your player _wants_ (or even believes) there should be an interaction, then get together with that player, and ultimately the whole group, as you are potentially setting a precedent that can have long-lasting effects in your games now and going forward into other ones.
 
If you see an interaction--  for example: "I cast detect magic."
 
This character _is_ a magic.  I will definitely detect them with this spell.  I might not detect a character; I might just say "yep.  That illusion right there? Definitely magic."
 
If the character _is_ an illusion and someone casts "dispell illusion," what happens?  Does the character become invisible?  Become a single flicker of magical energy?  Take STUN damage?  Fall unconscious?  Suffer BODY damage?  Just disappear for a while?
 
Are you Dispelling the character's total points, or just their BODY score?
 
Yes, that is technically a function of Drain: BODY, but if you allowed a spell that targets a special effect (in this case, "Magic," then you and your players have to be prepared for this spell to affect anything with the SFX of "Magic."
 
 
Anyway, I am dictating this to my copilot, who is looking a bit annoyed, so I guess I am done for now.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

It has been compared to less kind things. 

Are you calling his campaign checkers? 😱

Oooh!
 
Excellent question, Sir!
 
I guess it would boil down to the exact nature of the character and what those conditions do to him.
 
If, going from the original text, the character _is_ a magic illusion, then it stands to reason that "suppress magic" or the like would somehow affect him.
 
There are now two questions that would have to be answered (assuming everyone is willing to have the character actually be affected, because this is deep into "no-rules-for-that" territory):
 
Question One is "how is the character affected?"   No real reason for us to declare anything; that is for the player and GM to work out.  For me, I would say "it diminishes your existence (if I allowed it, I mean.  Not that I wouldn't, but it isn't in my game, so my approval is irrelevant).
 
The much harder question, I think, is where does one apply the Limitation?  By the rules, a character can "just be."  If he wants to be a robot, then he is; no charge.  If he wants to be a cyborg dolphin, then "he just is."  As before: no charge.
 
So we can't put it directly on "being a magic illusion," as he (so long as the GM is okay with it) "just _is_" a magic illusion.
 
It stands to reason that he can buy his powers and abilities with this limitation- he isn't _required_ to (unless the GM says otherwise), but certainly it would work in with several concepts.
 
What about his Characteristics?  To my thinking _at the moment_ (meaning that first blush inspired by an excellent question; I haven't done any deep thinking on it just yet) is that putting a limitation on each and every characteristic is the closest approximation of affecting the character's actual existence or ability to "just be."
 
I can only answer for myself, obviously, but if the question came up and I, as GM, decided that the character _should_ be so affected, that is probably how I would do it: apply the Limitation to every characteristic individually.
 
Thus, when someone rolls say 20 points worth of suppress magic, each Characteristic would drop by twenty Character points--  that is probably uglier in 6e that in all the editions before, honestly, given the new pricing.  And of course, when the suppression is removed, he is right as rain again.  If that took his EGO to zero or lower, I might rule that, from his perspective, he blacked out, and it is as if he had leaped forward in time with no memory or awareness of the rime that has passed.
 
 
Still:  that was an awesome question!  Thanks, Sketchpad!
 
 
 
 

Just out of curiosity, could there be a limitation be used here? "Affected by Magic/Power Defense" or something? It sounds like it should...

This is simply not how things are done on the internet.  What is the matter with you?

{Shrug} Lots of stuff that's popular which I don't understand the appeal of. If I don't need to, and it isn't imposed on or hurting me or anyone else, I don't worry about it. 

Bushido was so perplexed, he accidentally invented a new language.

There’s a balance to be struck in how easy it is to escape. Make it too easy, and prisons get laughable. Too hard and there are no repeat visits from a supervillain. Both setups affect the setting feel.
 
It also matters who is getting out. Scorpia escaping means people are going to die in Eurostar’s next scheme. Foxbat escaping means something silly is going to happen with his next caper.
 
If things are on the harder side for escaping, then a mass breakout event seems like the more dramatic option. If easier, then very few get out at a time and are sent back soon after.
 
If a mass breakout event of multiple terrorist types happens, that’s scary as they are the type to wreak havoc on a city or country. If Pulsar or Bluejay escapes, a bank or jewelry store is going to be robbed.
 
Some villains may also be a masked identity that gets passed on to new owners. The Green Goblin is an example of this with all the different goblin types that have shown up since Norman Osborn’s first outing.

Exactly. Infallibility and perfection are conflict-killers, ultimately boring.

You are so welcome. Happy to assist. Always glad to help out... [insert other customer service lines here]
 
I was able to license his whole collection of monster/character art for about $250. 

I suppose you expect me to eat venison with the antlers on, too?

No e!
 
Thanks,   Chris!
 
Now we know.