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    Pattern Ghost got a reaction from TrickstaPriest in [Police brutality] American injustice, yet again.   
    I never said it made it better. I said it made it something less than police brutality. The decision process that led to the death wasn't the  result of malice or racism as far as I can see*, but due to bad policy and less than competent and confident officers.
     
     
     
    Competence is certainly the issue. The fact that they were allowed to let their incompetence put them into the situation is the core of the issue. They should never have been allowed to not carry an additional less lethal option.
     
    Here's how I understand the situation:
     
    The woman called them to her apartment, claiming there was a burglary. Apparently, she also made a claim that she had gone to the store or somewhere else. These were both lies, as evidenced by video camera footage from her apartment building. Heard that on local news while driving to the thing in Seattle earlier. Dispatch was aware that the woman had called police to her apartment the prior week and threatened them with a pair of scissors, so sent two officers. I don't know whether the officers responding were informed of the prior incident or not. When the woman answered her door, she was armed with at least one knife (the article linked in this thread says two, local news has only mentioned one as far as I recall) and used vaguely threatening language towards the officers. ("Get ready .... rest censored by news), The latter part referenced in the article linked above. The woman had two children in the apartment with her. The officers ordered her to back off. One of the officers asked the other if he had mace/pepper spray, to which the reply was no. After the woman failed to comply, she was shot. I don't know if she took any actions that weren't on audio. The news hasn't mentioned that level of detail.  
    So, what do I take from this?
     
    The officers severely limited their options to respond to the situation. Had they been willing to take a small amount of risk and exercise basic teamwork, or even better interpersonal skills, they should have been able to resolve the situation either peacefully or without loss of life as a minimum. I think striving for "no loss of life" rather than "no loss of police life" is a pretty good goal, personally. But that's not how police in this country have been indoctrinated for a very very long time. I'm going to set that date as roughly the 80's and the war on drugs era. But back to the topic at hand:
     
    Retreat does not seem to be an option. The officers were (I'm assuming, though I haven't seen hard confirmation) dealing with an armed, disturbed woman in a doorway. Had she been alone, just walking away may have been a reasonable temporary response. But she also had two children in the apartment with her. So, I'm fairly certain the officers didn't judge that to be a situation where they were going to yield the doorway and let the woman lock the two kids in with her in an agitated state while armed. It's about the only sound judgment I can see that they may have shown.
     
    So, how do you deal with a woman armed with a knife in an enclosed space?
     
    First, you take a chance. Remember the guy who killed the people in Oregon? He probably didn't wave his knife around and talk trash at the people he stabbed. If he got all three in that short space of time, he almost certainly went to town with no warning. Most of the time people using a knife as a threat aren't quite ready to actually use it. This woman was mentally unstable, but I'd have taken the bet that since I hadn't been stabbed yet, that I had at least the option to extend the verbal phase a bit.
     
    Unless she moved to attack them, I think the officers could have put a minimal effort into talking her down, rather than shout orders in her face. I didn't see any mention of such an effort in the article mentioning the audio of the incident, just orders given. The officers (at least one, IIRC) were said to be trained in crisis intervention, but don't seem to have put those skills to use.
     
    Second option, you take her down. Which is what the SPD did. They did it with bullets. Pepper spray would have been great here, but hey, the other guy didn't bring it! Kind of f-ed up when the police of a large metro expect the other guy to bring less lethal options to the call. But since they had sticks and she had a knife, their reasonable options were severely curtailed.
     
    They may have had room to take a shot at her traps or collar bone (or noggin, which is technically lethal force but still better than a bunch of bullets), or they may not have. A thrust would have put them at risk against a knife. The knife in that space is strictly superior to their batons. If they screwed up, they stood a fair chance of getting cut or stabbed.
     
    Pepper spray or a Taser would have been better. At the very least, getting sprayed is going to be a huge distraction, letting the other officer take physical control. And if the officers eat some pepper spray blow back? Tough crap. They're trained to fight through it.** The last time someone hit me with the stuff, I disarmed the idiot and smacked them repeatedly about the head and shoulders. It's something any soldier has experienced (though with CS in my time), and it is not a fight ender if you know what to expect.
     
    IMO, police training needs a good hard look from the ground up, everywhere in this country.
     
     
     
    * So far. Who knows what will come to light after this is investigated. It's not like SPD has a great track record in that regard.
     
    **(Or should be. One of the articles Cancer linked made it seem like this training was new. But it was also pretty clear that the author had no prior experience, so I'm not sure which bits he mentioned were actually new. Every other state certification for pepper spray I'm aware of requires the person to at the very least take a shot in the face from it. I don't see why WA state would be different in that minimum standard since so much is copied/shared among states. Police training is actually fairly standard across the country AFAIK.)
     
    Edit Apologies if this seems a bit rambly. It's late for me. I tried to clean it up and keep it on topic as best I can.
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    Pattern Ghost reacted to IndianaJoe3 in Political Discussion Thread (With Rules)   
    There's a Photoshopped version of Paul Ryan's presentation that summarizes it accurately. 
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    Pattern Ghost got a reaction from Grailknight in [Police brutality] American injustice, yet again.   
    Sorry, I don't have time to read those at the moment, have to get ready for a thing. But I find the first article's headline amusing, and vaguely insulting. "Less military"? Then describes teaching officers interpersonal communication skills? I was in the Military Police. Even in the 80's, early 90's we were very restrained in our use of force, stressed interpersonal communication skills, and didn't run around in fear of our lives.
     
    I think that last one is key. Police today seem to be running around in constant fear of their lives. Some caution is certainly justified, but in many cases where my training would tell me to calm a situation down, instead I see time and again on these police videos an officer who screeches panicked orders, sometimes too fast or too contradictory to follow, while drawing a gun. Even if the situation does call for a drawn gun, and forceful orders, the communication skills of these officers still lack. The person receiving an order needs time to comply. It takes the brain a second or two (I think 1.5 is average?) to process something and act on it.
     
    I think training people to be cautious but not fearful is important. I see far too many panic reactions from police. Nearly every use of force case I've seen hit the news shows police officers in panic mode.
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    Pattern Ghost got a reaction from Nolgroth in [Police brutality] American injustice, yet again.   
    You left out the "with knife" part there. Two, according to the article.
     
    Seattle needs to look at its requirements for less lethal force. According to local radio, Seattle PD officers have a choice of carrying (at least, I assume, since I've seen cops carrying all three in Seattle) one of three less lethal options (Taser, pepper spray, baton). Both officers appear to have chosen baton. A reason given by several officers interviewed by the local talk radio guy is legal complications for Taser (stats showing more likely to be sued), and pepper spray blowback. IMO, both of those reasons are BS, but they seem to be the prevailing reasoning of officers in Seattle given the choice of what to carry.
     
    IMO, police should be required to carry either the pepper spray or Taser in addition to the baton. You don't fight a knife with a baton. In this case, I probably would have myself, but it's unreasonable to ask officers to risk getting knifed by going into melee with a knife. That only left these officers with their sidearms as a response. I think had they had pepper spray or a Taser, they could have settled it with no loss of life.
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    Pattern Ghost got a reaction from DasBroot in Political Discussion Thread (With Rules)   
    Well, he is until he's fired.
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    Pattern Ghost got a reaction from Pariah in Political Discussion Thread (With Rules)   
    Well, he is until he's fired.
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    Pattern Ghost reacted to BoloOfEarth in Marvel Cinematic Universe, Phase Three and BEYOOOOONND   
    You're new to this internet thing, aren't you? 
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    Pattern Ghost reacted to Nolgroth in Political Discussion Thread (With Rules)   
    Careful Old Man, you're almost sounding idealistic there. Your reputation as a cynic is in danger.
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    Pattern Ghost reacted to Old Man in Political Discussion Thread (With Rules)   
    I don't find fault with any of this reasoning, except for one thing.  I am greatly troubled by the shocking lack of respect for truth and the rule of law, as demonstrated by elected officials and by a very large proportion of the voting public.  It bothers me when private email servers are used to conduct government business out of the public eye.  It bothers me when lies are used to justify ruinously expensive land wars in Asia.  It bothers me when science is treated as an opinion.  And yes, it bothers me when presidents lie under oath about oral sex.
     
    So today we have an administration that literally lies faster than people can keep track, which is nakedly guilty of using public office for personal gain, violated laws against nepotism, blatantly withholds financial information, lied about meetings with Russian officials and taking Russian money during security clearance interviews, tried to arrange back channel communications with the Kremlin that could not possibly have a legitimate reason to exist, and openly admitted to obstruction of justice on live national TV, ...and waaay too many people are okay with all of this.
     
    Are we a nation of laws, or are we not?
     
    So yeah, in theory my "side" would be better off leaving this crook in office, surrounded by the other crooks who are protecting him, and hoping really hard that somehow the next election will solve it all.  But as an American I think we would be better off actually holding crooks accountable and enforcing the laws that they break, because otherwise we will have a country not of laws, but of expedient politics.  And it will not last long.
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    Pattern Ghost reacted to Hermit in The Adventures of "Fish Guy" (Superhero fiction)   
    The ending is a blur, but hopefully still satisfies... thanks for your patience and making it this far.
     
     
    A lot of the rest was clean-up, in more ways than one. We had to make sure the city had public sightings of us as a team again.
     
    Who puts out the call to all the supervillains that the heroes are elsewhere in large number, I really don't know, but I wish they'd cut it the hell out. While Slime, Viewpoint and Pogo were okay, they had more a more than an average number of encounters. Viewpoint claimed he'd been attacked by a group of super-villainesses who called themselves the 'fangrlz' and barely escaped with his life.  
     
    Pogo, on the other hand, ran into a fellow who was looking for me.
     
    "This guy says the oceans aren't big enough for the two of you, and you stole his shtick, He didn't have much time in town, had to be somewhere, but he says he'll be back in a few months to teach you a lesson."
     
     
    "I stole his what?" I blinked.
     
    "His theme, I never heard of him but apparently, he breathes water, he's super strong like you, and your name was way too similar." Pogo said in a rush, "He said 'tell the punk to get training, for soon he will be tested by the Sea's true strong man! Soon he will face the one, the only- Moray!'"
     
    "Oh, sweet mother of God," I muttered, "It's not even the same word!" But despite my grumbling, I didn't doubt her. The Super world has villains and heroes aplenty, but it's a wide spectrum between them, and sometimes what you end up with are just jackasses looking for excuses to fight with someone and prove themselves the toughest. It was akin to the stories you heard about gunslingers in the old west. Get a reputation, and someone must test it.
     
    I suppose I should have been flattered, but, pardon the pun, I really had bigger fish to fry. The Moray moron would have to wait. There was so many more important things. Like my hair cut, it was getting kind of shaggy.
     
     
    "The chicks would have liked it longer," Aaron observed when I came into the apartment sporting the trim.
     
    "I'm a Southern boy, guys with a mullet now a days get put through hell, guys with a southern accent and a mullet get it double," I informed him.
     
     
    "You need to go hipster, tell them it's a French cut, the 'moo lay'" He suggested.
     
    "I'm dating a very intelligent girl," I explained to him, "She's not going to buy that," I smiled and got my best outfit out of the closet.
     
    The date that night was fantastic. I mean it, I treated Ariana to a real date at a real restaurant. The prices were more than I expected, but let me tell you when she came to her door when I knocked, it was worth it. She looked like she stepped off a fashion magazine. The heels she wore put extra swish in the miss, and I was not blind to that.
     
    "Wow," I said before I could reach for the more poetic adjectives.
     
     
    "You like?" She asked though the delight in her eyes told me she already knew the answer, she just wanted me to put a bit more praise for the effort she'd gone through.
     
    Which was more than fair, "You always look beautiful," I told her honestly, "But wow if you didn't' just jump right over spectacular." 
     
     
    I opened the car door for her and admired the way she slid on in so gracefully I think I could have made a happy living just being her chauffeur. The car was the team's, of course, and she knew that, but it wasn't like folks had the plate (We changed that anyway) and it had just gotten a new paint job. As long as I resisted the urge to send it flying above the traffic, we were just another couple on the way to a nice dinner.
     
    And it was nice, damn nice. We flirted and talked and there were no villain attacks, no world threats, not so much as a fire that needed putting out. Of course, it couldn't last forever.
     
    I had agreed to a patrol that night.
     
     
    Of course, I didn't realize that my plans were about to be altered. I had just changed into my costume at the base and was readying to head out when Dr. Vernon called out, "Eel, I could use your help tonight? As she was dressed in her civvies and not her power armor, I was surprised.
     
     
    "Certainly, Doctor, do I need to change back?"
     
     
    "No, it'll be on the base and I want you in costume. I have a guest, an old friend who I can't trust, so having one of us in costume nearby and one of us out may throw him off," She answered with a smile.
     
    "Why would you have a friend you can't trust?" the concept was alien to me.
     
    "They can be extremely useful, for one," She shrugged, "Maybe a better term would be the devil I respect, come on."
     
    The devil she respected turned out to be a black man in his late middle ages with graying hair and a suit that fit nicely enough but wasn't up to current fashions.
     
    "Please, James, have a seat," She gestured to the table and asked, "Would you like some tea?"
     
    "Got coffee?" He asked.
     
    She nodded, then said, "Eel, would you?"
     
    "No problem, ma'am," I said and got her them each a drink, her tea, him coffee.
     
    "This is Eel, one of our newer members," She introduced me.
     
    "Yeah," James gave me a vaguely sour look, "I've heard of him. A lot lately."
     
    "This is James Elroy," She told me, "He's with government intelligence."
     
    "You'll pardon me if I don't say it's a pleasure," He grumbled in his coffee.
     
    "You don't see my hand stretching out either, so fine," I said.
     
    "Knew you two would hit it off right away," She sipped her tea, "You wanted to see me, James?"
     
    "Vivian, you know darn well why I came here," He said, "You memory wiped Eagle Eye's agents, and you have amplification belts. I'd kind of like to have both restored?"
     
    A chill went through me as I realized exactly what Mind's Eye had done for Lady Obsidian as a favor. Of course, it made sense. Valorous, at least, had weeks to learn anything and everything Arctic Fox was willing to tell him about us. Surely though he would have passed on at least her secret identity by now? What good would a memory wipe do?
     
    "I don't have a telepath on my team to help you, sorry," Dr. Vernon formed her fingers into a steeple and cast a glance over them at him,  "I'm sure the government has a few that can do the job though."
     
    "At incredible cost and hassle," He grumbled, "And the belts?"
     
    "Right here," She slid a bag over.
     
    "They've been torn apart," He said with annoyance.
     
    "Well, somehow they got around the waists of a group of violent burglars and when some our team defended themselves, they got a bit torn up," She replied dryly, "Not bad designs by the way. I was impressed your R&D found a way around the Genetic Maximum by tailoring for partials."
     
    "You have our amplification tech," He scowled, "Damnit, Vivian. You're mad because Eagle Eye tried to steal your tech, but you've got no problem with stealing ours?"
     
    "To the victor," she raised a brow, "Don't act all wounded, James. Your people broke into my house…"
     
    "That was not my idea and I tried to stop them," He protested.
     
    "You didn't try hard enough," She scowled and continued, "Now I believe you when say you tried to stop this, because you have common sense. I don't suppose you're going to tell me exactly whose idea it was?"
     
    "You know damn well I won't put the finger on anyone, I have sympathy with you, but I also know who I work for. Besides, I suspect you have ideas anyway," Mr. Elroy countered, "There's new blood siding with some of the old and me stuck in the middle. Trying to help you."
     
    "Your help blinded one of my friends," I said, my jaw grinding.
     
    "I see he takes after you in taking this whole operation personally," James noted to Vivian.
     
    "That's because he doesn't buy your 'standing on that wall' crap any more than we do, James. We're on the wall too, even if we are volunteers for it; and finding folks we thought were on our side pushing us off it to rifle our pockets puts us in an understandably bad mood. Yes, I have amplification tech, and not only do I have it, I'm improving it. It still only works on partials, but that's okay. There are a lot of good people half way to being to super-heroes anyway. I'm just giving them a chance if a superhero I trust sponsors them."
     
    "You're sharing it!" His eyes flew open wide, "Jesus Christ!"
     
    I admit, I was caught off guard too. I mean, I knew Ariana was a shoo in, but I didn't know Lady Obsidian was planning on handing it nationwide to other teams. Hell, maybe she was going global.
     
    Dr. Vernon bathed in her 'friend's' panic like it was warm sunlight, and smiled, "I'm very particular. But yes, the genie is out of the bottle. It was going to be anyway, eventually one of your agents would have gotten taken by some villain, and it would out there the next week. I am hoping a controlled release will give us the edge we need against the bad guys."
     
    "You know the others will play hard ball," He said, "They'll threaten to expose your team for this, one by one."
     
    "I know," She said, "That telepath I don't have on my team?" She reminded, "What do you think she sorted through before blocking memories?"
     
    I carefully kept my expression blank as I realized she'd changed the gender of the telepath. Would James see through it? I don’t know.
     
    "You didn't," He frowned, "Vivian, those memories are classified. You could be endangering our agents' lives if you let that out."
     
    "And some of our people have children. This is one box that hasn't been opened, James. I called you here to turn your junk back over, and beg you to do what you can to keep what you have in your computers and files secret. I'm not as idealistic as I used to be, all I know is these people are the only family I have left, and the people who should be thanking them are threatening them. So yes, I trust other superheroes and myself to decide which partials get elevated more than I trust the government. I trust that we need dirt on Eagle Eye to keep our dirt from being leaked, and I am trusting, that if nothing else, enlightened self-interest will keep us from escalating this. Talk to them, make them listen, or it will get so much worse before it gets better."
     
    There was everything in her tone; a promise, a threat, a plea.
     
    With a grimace, and a grunt, he took the bag, "I'll see what I can do. If nothing else, this fiasco has cost them some status. And I'm not blind to the fact what you've told me gives me a heads up on covering my own ass from the fall out. Don't expect me to thank you for that too much."
     
    "You're welcome anyway," She crossed her fingers, "Do you need an escort out?"
     
    "No. I know the way, and I'm sure Mabel is watching me anyway," the government man gave a wave to the air at the last, rose and walked down the hall way. After a few minutes Mabel said.
     
    "He's gone, Doctor."
     
    "And did you hack his phone?"
     
    "The encryption was hard to get through, but the amplifier in your purse helped."
     
    "Excellent, I want a back door into their files to erase what they have of us."
     
     
    I stared at her, "Why did you have me witness that?" I finally asked. "Mabel's got your back, and I suspect you've got at least one other device in your purse that makes a taser look like a child's toy," she smiled at that weakly, "So why?"
     
    "I wanted you to see, and to judge for yourself how far I've gone," She said kindly, "I have friends, Eel. Good friends. I'd like to think you're becoming one, but you've also got an annoying north pointing moral compass. I want to keep you in the loop in this because I know, when you think I've gone too far, you'll tell me. The others?  They… might not. Hell, some might cheer me on."
     
    "You want me to be your cricket of conscience?" I tapped my chest in surprise, "You're Lady Obsidian, you've been the conscience of the superhero community for decades."
     
    "Even the pope has a confessor, young man, and I don't claim to any form of infallibility," She told him, "You up for it?"
     
    "Some of what you said scared me," I admitted, "And I think you're taking an awful big gamble with a lot of people. I think some of those things better be bluffs because if you carry them through you'll hate yourself. I think I liked it better when I did think it was all simple white hats versus black hats."
     
    "Oh? A black hat thang is it?" She raised a brow.
     
    I guess a horrified look crossed my features for a moment and I didn't know what to say.
     
    She laughed, "Lord, Caleb. Ariana is right. You are so easy."
     
    "Thanks," I said dryly.
     
    "Was that no?"
     
    "No, it's not a no," I said, "I'm a superhero, and we don't run from the hard choices. We can't afford to."
     
    "Wise words," She smiled and rose inviting me to walk with her.
     
    "They should be," I reminded, "They were in your second book."
     
    "Ha," she laughed, "Young man, I'm flattered, but you need to get to work focusing on your own story."
     
    I walked with her, "Yeah, The Adventures of Fish Guy," I snorted with a chuckle, "That'll be a hit."
     
    "Well," She patted my hand, "Maybe not. Probably best if it isn't. Keep you humble, but I would read it."
     
    "Thanks, Dr. Vernon," I smiled.
     
    "Now, about those college courses…."
     
    Some battles, it seemed, were unrelenting.
     
    (The End of the Book, but never the story)
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    Pattern Ghost reacted to Lord Liaden in The Flash   
    IMO a lot of the appeal of Legends this past season was due to Matt Letscher as Eobard Thawne. Whether on that show or the Flash's Letscher gave us a brilliant, ruthless, deliciously arrogant villain who was also very human, displaying a lot of emotional range. Whatever else was going on his Reverse Flash always entertained me. And because of the buildup his ultimate demise was very satisfying.
     
    (Which brings up another issue I found annoying in the Flash season finale -- the nerfing of Black Flash.)
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    Pattern Ghost reacted to Hermit in The Flash   
    Legends did, vastly!
     
    Of course, it had a lot of up to hit, but still
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    Pattern Ghost reacted to bigdamnhero in Marvel Cinematic Universe, Phase Three and BEYOOOOONND   
    In terms of films, it's the model they frickin' invented, which has made them boatloads of cash, and which everyone else is now desperate to emulate. So there's that.
     
    Also remember that Bond only puts out one movie every 2-3 years, not every 6 months. And most of them have grossed around $400-$700M (in today's dollars), roughly on par with Ant-Man & Thor Dark World. The studio has openly talked about trying to make Bond more like Bourne - which notably had a meta-story across multiple films.
     
    And as much as I loved the first Die Hard, you can't even compare that "franchise" to the MCU: Die Hard has made 5 films over 30 years, which collectively have made $1.4B, about the same as Age of Ultron alone.
     
    I'm not unsympathetic to those of you who prefer more episodic storytelling, because that's clearly not the dominant trend now. But as someone who has always preferred more serial, ongoing storytelling and who spent decades stuck in episodic mediocrity* I say Huzzah!
     
    * ST-TNG: don't even get me started...
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    Pattern Ghost reacted to Hermit in Order of the Stick   
    Aye Aye, Captain!
     
    Darn good rhetoric!
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    Pattern Ghost reacted to zslane in Marvel Cinematic Universe, Phase Three and BEYOOOOONND   
    I think the more long-form storytelling structure that overlays the MCU "phases" is one of the ways in which the movies get to feel a little bit like the comics. Sure, each issue (movie) is a standalone tale that is fun to experience on its own. But if you get onto the ride and stay on, you get further rewarded with a richer experience after seeing multiple threads woven together into a larger tapestry. The mere fact that Marvel has been able to pull that off successfully to the extent that they have is nothing short of astonishing. Nobody outside of Marvel thought it was remotely feasible given the conventional wisdom espoused by the traditional Hollywood braintrust. I see the MCU as a cinematic triumph, warts and all, especially given just how much worse it could have been (*cough* DCEU *cough*). I for one am not tired of any of it (yet). I still want more.
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    Pattern Ghost reacted to death tribble in In other news...   
    Ariana Grande is playing a benefit concert in Manchester this Sunday along with a number of others.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40086336
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    Pattern Ghost reacted to Hermit in The Adventures of "Fish Guy" (Superhero fiction)   
    Last week was on average 5 hours of sleep a day, and it addedup on me. Back in the saddle... and ALMOST finished...so sorry
     
     
    "Can't we do anything to help him?"  I said worriedly as Mabel's waldo extended the light into the solid white eyes of Mayo one after the other.
     
    The aquatic soldier was out of the pool and in the med bay with water pumping into his mouth and lungs thanks to a modified rebreather and a tank of good old H2O. His burns were also being tended but it was the eyes that worried me.
     
    "Peace, Caleb," Mayo said, "We will learn what we learn when we learn it."
     
    I think he was taking it more serenely than I was. He endured it all with immense patience.
     
    Damn it, I want to be serene, and patient. In fact, I want to be serene and patient right now!
     
    Okay, truth of the matter was it almost bothered me how at peace he was about it. Particularly when Mabel gave us the long digital face.
     
    "I'm sorry, Mayo hun," Mabel said, "Barring some super science I don't have access to, your sight appears to be lost. It might over time return; there's just so much about your physiology we don't understand but at this point, the odds are less than one in a hundred."
     
    I felt the urge to punch a wall.
     
    "Ah well, if it must be it must be, I didn't enjoy being a soldier anyway," Mayo said after a time.
     
    "How can you take that so calmly?" It slipped out of me, "You just gave up your sight for us."
     
    "I did not give up my sight," He says, "It was taken, and it's not coming back it appears. Am I upset? Yes. Am I sorrowful? Yes. But while I should learn from the past, I cannot live there," A pause, "Are you okay? Your tone…"
     
    "Am I okay?" I blinked at him, "Dude, you're the one who is blind."
     
    "Yet I think you blame yourself," Blind as he was, Mayo couldn't exactly 'look' around but he did tilt his head to span the room and asked the others, "Do all of you superheroes always blame yourselves for every calamity to those that you know even when you cannot be there to affect it?"
     
    "Pretty much, yeah," Tornado said right way.
     
    "Oh, they do it all the time," Mabel said allowing exasperation to come through.
     
    "Hazard of the trade, I suppose," Lady Obsidian conceded with a dignified head incline even though Mayo could not see it.
     
    "Depends on how many drinks I've got in me," Pinprick chimed in.
     
    "Even though that is clearly arrogant presumption on your part?"  Mayo said nonplussed.
     
    "Pretty much, yeah," Tornado nodded.
     
    "All the time," Mabel said with a sigh.
     
    "Hazard of the trade," Lady Obsidian repeated but smiled a bit more.
     
    "Oh, hell, I hit arrogance before the first shot is down," Pinprick chimed in.
     
    I glowered at them, but apparently, I had used up all my intimidation points on the bad guys because they looked amused more than anything.
     
    "Fine, you're annoyingly zen, I'm arrogantly presumptive," I groused, "But it doesn't change how I feel. Could you at least express that upset a bit more vocally for a second?"
     
    He nodded then looked downward and began to intone, "Oh great goodly gods of the depth and current, why did you curse me with victory over a much mightier foe. Why did you subject me to survival and a possibly long and productive life despite my challenges when you knew it meant Caleb would lecture me? Why, Gods, why?"
     
    "Is it wrong to punch out a blind guy?" I asked the room.
     
    "Yes," Ariana said squeezing my shoulder and speaking for the first time.
     
    "It's frowned on," Tornado agreed.
     
    "Now Deaf guys are jerks, you can go to town on them all day," Pinprick said, then noticed the looks he got, "What? Have you seen American sign language? Racist as hell, and they get away with it."
     
    We all kept staring at him. Even Mayo who somehow managed to line up right.
     
    "Fine," Pinprick threw his hands up "But if you learn what they're signing behind your back you'll feel differently."
     
    "Sorry, Mayo," I finally said, realizing I was being silly but admitting, "I just wish there was something I can do. I can't help Doctor Salem, she's in the Balance. And here you are, and I can't help you either."
     
    "Arrogant presumption and bigotry against mysticism aside," a voice whispered just loud enough to be heard, "He's actually a rather fine young man. He really does care. Good pick, Vivian."
     
    "Thank you," Lady Obsidian said and she did sound a bit pleased.
     
    I turned to see Doctor Salem. She looked like hell, wobbly and weak. She had a cane and seemed to be positioning herself by use of it and sheer willpower. Her hand shivered as if cold. She might have looked crone like before, but now her age was more than a matter of appearance.
     
    "Doctor, you're out of the Balance," I blurted the obvious.
     
    "Most of me, yes," She said with a sigh, "I'll have to go back. Frequently now. I'm bound to the place currently. It will be slow work getting my own energies built back up so I leave again for any duration."
     
    "I'm sorry," I said, "I pushed."
     
    "Young man, if I didn't agree with you, it wouldn't have happened," She said curtly, "But, as a method of allaying your guilt however silly it is, and because I will need the help, rest assured I shall have numerous tasks for you."
     
    "You've giving me your laundry list?" I said surprised.
     
    "Among other things," She nodded, "I can't be out as much. The good news, of course, is that the Balance is the perfect place for teaching certain basics of the mystical to a promising student who might yet show arcane prowess."
     
    "Whoa," I held up my hands, "I don't like mysticism. I am flattered but I…."
     
    "Oh no," Dr. Salem shook her head, "You as a student? By the three-fold goddess no," She shook her head, "I meant Mayo, of course."
     
    "Me?" Mayo made a very surfacer like gesture, touching his hand to his chest as he inquired, "I am honored, and surprised. I know little of magic."
     
    "Few do at the start," Dr. Salem shrugged, "But you have a wisdom, an insight that I believe would be good ground to plant the seeds in…or perhaps a better metaphor would be I think your waters hold many treasures you yourself have not yet discovered."
     
    "I am, unworthy," He said, "And uncertain."
     
    "Oh, drop the other part on him," I said to her.
     
    "Other part?" He said, proving even the blind lift eyebrows. Which I suppose only makes sense, but you think about the oddest things in moments like your newly blind friend being offered a chance to become a witch's apprentice. Besides, I had a feeling she was about to bring up a point.
     
    "Well, I'm not reading minds," Dr. Salem said, "But I suspect Eel is either wondering aloud if I can cure your blindness in the training… " she looked at me.
     
    That wasn't it, I shook my head. Though I loved the idea that it might be so. Magic can do some weird stuff that science is still struggling with. Science is like the good student who shows his work in class while Mysticism is more like that kid who can BS his entire term paper without so much as citing a source and the little snot still gets a pat on the head from teacher.
     
    "Or…" She continued, "He is considering that you have long wanted a way to help in the fight against mystic threats like the Eldest and his minions. I can teach you, with patience and time, to ward , to shield, and purify. You cannot defeat the Eldest, not directly, but I can help you hold him back and teach you to act as a guardian of the innocents below."
     
    "I will be your pupil," Mayo said without hesitation.
     
    "Called it," I said smugly.
     
    "Of course, I do wonder about your taste in friends, they seem a bit smug," She informed Mayo.
     
    "He amuses me from time to time," Mayo said with a bit of a smile, then added, "And thank you, Doctor Salem."
     
    She stood, "It's every mystic's duty to take an apprentice at least once in their life," Her hand reached out and took his, "Ready?"
     
    "As I shall ever be, I suppose," He  said earnestly then waved to us with his free hand, "Thank you for saving all of the ocean's peoples, all of you."
     
    "See you around, Mayo," I told him. The others chimed in with their well wishes also.
     
    Mayo then looked at Doctor Salem, "I am ready."
     
    She gestured, and there was a swirling about them and they began to fade from view. I heard Mayo get another question out.
     
    "Will I be able to see again?"
     
    "With your eyes? No, without them? Colors you never knew existed…" And her voice became an echo and the echo faded.
     
     
    The next generation of mystics looked to have some promising potential.
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    Oddly enough for me, Legends season 2 was the best of the CW shows this year.
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    Sorry it took so long to get back to this.  Here's another article on the same subject.  In essence, GOP collusion with the Russians does not appear to be confined to the White House.  I'm beginning to wonder just how much of the Republican Party has been compromised.
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    I have a mixed reaction to this one. On the one hand, the officer who was first on scene shouldn't have been fired. He correctly assessed the situation, and the facts bear him out. On the other hand, the ACLU author is clearly being unrealistic in not expecting the second officer to shoot after the victim started to raise a gun in his direction.
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    Some of you will be disappointed I suspect, but here's a bit more anyway . And no, it's not quite done.
     
    As I fought the temptation to say, "I totally made out with your niece, dude" in my best beach brah accent, we moved on to find the incoming superheroes. Lady Obsidian had removed her helmet, though I could see a hair line crack in the faceplate. Given the woman's armor could generate forcefields that my best punches would have trouble getting through, I didn't want to think about what could tear through all that and still hurt the basic structure. Pinprick looks intact, but was in want of a shower looking like someone had let the dog drool all over their favorite action figure for an hour. Arctic Fox was, pardon the pun, as cool as ice as she was talking to Lady Obsidian filling her in. Honestly, I've seen people read off grocery lists with more emotion.
     
    And they weren't alone, in addition to my remaining team mates, I saw three other figures.  Two of them were so close to each other that if you didn't know anything else about them, you could tell they were involved and happily so. Their costumes were alike, consisting of red and white. His had the Greek Psi symbol within an Eye shape logo (though it looked different from Viewpoint's) and hers had more white than red, with a logo up the side of an avian design. They didn't hold hands, but she seemed to have slipped close against him anytime he stopped moving. The third fellow was more off to the side, and he looked around with concern and frustration and his body language showed… was that disgust? His costume had a spiral like pattern spread throughout it, and he wore a full-face mask with glass lenses.
     
    "Eel, I hear you've been busy," Lady Obsidian said sympathetically, her helmet cradled by her left arm, "Good work all, from what Mabel and Arctic Fox have told me."
     
    "Yeah, well, you were right about Valorous," I said trying not to look at Fox as I said it, "Man, I can't believe the government would try this," I looked about at the wreckage still to be cleaned up, "Intruding into our homes, trying to steal tech like common crooks, and then having the nerve to say they're the good guys. Man, I cut them some slack, but right now, if I saw a government agent, especially some jackass in a cape, I would give him a piece of my mind. It's like a modern day 5th columnist movement."
     
    I set my jaw.
     
    Lady Obsidian sighed, "This is Hawkstrike and Mind's Eye. They decided to accompany us from the ocean to help us out when they heard our base was under assault," She gestured to the woman and man in the red and white outfits.
     
    "Nice to meet you," Mind's Eye offered a hand and I shook it. He had a pretty good grip for a telepath.
     
    "I've heard about you two," I said, "Nice work in Cape Benedict."
     
    "Thank you," Hawkstrike smiled as I shook her hand. Hawkstrike was a martial artist, "It's not just us, Storm Child takes up the slack. He'd be here but our own town needed someone to stick around, and we figured, after the crisis here, we deserved a week in a nice hotel to celebrate."
     
    "Two years Anniversary," Mind's Eye beamed at his wife. Hawkstrike smiled back adoringly. Just for a moment, out of the corner of my eye, I saw Arctic Fox stiffen as if she were bracing during a dental drill.
     
    "Well, congratulations! I'm new here myself in Costa Sagrado or I'd suggest a classy place," I told them and turned to the third guy to take Fox's mind off the happy couple, "And you are?"
     
    I offered my hand.
     
    "This gentleman is the reason we were able to teleport back here so quickly," Lady Obsidian said, "This is Vortex…"
    "Nice to meet you, Vortex," I smiled as he took my hand.
     
    Lady Obsidian continued, "He's with the Star-Watch, a team of U.S. Government agents and superheroes."
     
    A sinking feeling, not unlike the cables of the elevator you're in going far too slack too completely without warning hit me, "You're a…"
     
    "Modern Day 5th columnist for Uncle Sam," Vortex said shaking my hand in a bit too energetic an arm pump, "Any other complaints you'd like me to take back to the team?"
     
    "I…" I turned red.
     
    "Size ten right?" Pinprick looked up and smirked. Ariana covered her mouth, Tornado didn't bother to cover his. Arctic Fox actually chuckled softly, and Lady Obsidian gave me that look a deacon gives you when you fart in church.
     
    Well, I had thought God was on my side, but as the Earth refused to swallow me and spare me further embarrassment, I began to have doubts again. I can be fickle like that.
     
    "I apologize, I…"
     
    He waved me off, "It's okay. Given what you've been through, I can't blame you for going full on Libertarian for a while.  Operation Eagle Eye is, well, kind of intense, though I didn't think they'd ever try this."
     
    "You're not with Operation Eagle Eye? As a Super?" I raised a brow.
     
    "Different agency collaborates with us, but even among the Eye there are regional divisions and more politicking than you might believe," Vortex answered, "It gets ugly sometimes. But there are folks who work without," A nod of respect to Lady Obsidian, "And some of us who try to keep it on the straight and narrow from within," his face couldn't be seen, but I could somehow tell he was frowning as he looked about, "This offends me no less than it offends you. Though for some different reasons."
     
    After putting my foot in my mouth once, I decided not to debate the finer points.
     
    Only then did I noticed Lady Obsidian speaking softly to Mind's Eye.
     
    He nodded, and he and Arctic Fox went off.
     
    "Thank you again, Vortex," Lady Obsidian said, "If you need to rest up…"
     
     
    "No no, my continued presence here would just be …" He searched for the word, "a complication. Besides there are others in the sea I should probably offer a ride to." A swirling, well, vortex, swarmed about him as he waved and was gone.
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