allen Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age YADADKO. Ah ha! And here I thought it was some kind of Danish thing... Anyway, thanks for the kind words about VA, guys, and those of you planning to get it, hope you enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savinien Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age I still don't get it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MordeanGrey Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age I'm just guessing... Yet Another Dungeons and Dragons Knock Off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age And don't you just Hate how much they ripped out of D&D to make those Lord of the Rings movies? That Tolkein fellah is such a hack! Seriously though - Valdorian Age is more akin to Conan, Elric, Fafhrd & The Grey Mouser and other Sword&Sorcery genre. D&D is akin to high fantasy videogames. Turakian Age is High Fantasy, yes - but unless you treat it like a superhero game (like Champions) it won't come close to D&D. Plus there's all the other restrictions you'd have to enforce to reduce it down to D&D unusability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age And don't you love the little tribute tidbits in Valdorian Age? Mouser's Run, Krom's Road, and Storm Street and Bringer Road, just to name a few... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age I got a lot of chuckles adding the labels to that map. Keith ":D" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age Did you manage to put "Grygnr" anywhere on the map? That'd be very cool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age I don't recall it offhand. What's the reference? Keith "??" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age "Grignr" - sorry, my typo, no "y" The "hero" from the legendary story "The Eye of Argon" by Jim Theis There's a MiSTed version here (the only version worth reading IMHO)- http://www.bmsc.washington.edu/people/merritt/books/Eye_of_Argon.html And to quote- Tom: "Grignr"? Crow: Yes, Grignr. Deal. Just a final addendum - this is a great fun read. Difficult to do with a straight face without squirming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age I thought it sounded familiar. Thanks. I think. Keith "Enlightenment is never pleasant" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age Life-changingly memorable. In all the wrong ways It's what inspired myself and two friends to attempt one of the Dungeons and Dragons movie. But it's still in the draft stage- http://www.livejournal.com/users/curufea/61982.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevenall Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age I just wanted to say that I'm very impressed by the Valdorian Age too. It makes me wish I had the time to start another campaign. Though I keep trying to call it the Valadorian Age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savinien Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age I'm just guessing... Yet Another Dungeons and Dragons Knock Off! Ahhh! Now I understand! Thanks for the Cluex4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age Just a final addendum - this is a great fun read. Difficult to do with a straight face without squirming. hmmm... made it to: "Prepare to embrace your creators in the stygian haunts of hell, barbarian", gasped the first soldier." without laughing out loud. That's pretty brutal; Eye of Argon has got to be published by Leisure Books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age That's pretty brutal; Eye of Argon has got to be published by Leisure Books. Either that or CHICK publications. I'd like to see it as a double-pack with "Dark Dungeons" http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp http://www.rpglibrary.org/inspiration/darkdungeons/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age Finally picked up my copy of VA today. I like it--much moreso than TA. TA was big, sprawling, and generic; VA is dripping with flavor and detail, and is a unique setting in its own right. The treatment of Elweir in particular is excellent--finally, a city with enough detail to serve as a complete setting in its own right. About the only thing VA really needs is more maps and interior art. You get no real concept of what a street in Lowtown really looks like, or what might comprise a city block. Perhaps a series of free downloads could be worked up that are just random block maps. And, as with all other Fantasy Hero 5ed books, I detest the interior layout and graphic design. Why must a Valdorian Age page look exactly like a Dark Champions page? God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellS Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age Why must a Valdorian Age page look exactly like a Dark Champions page? God. Because VA is DC only with swords? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age Because VA is DC only with swords? You know, the funny thing is that I can sort of see that. Imagine some sword-wielding vigilante haunting the streets of Elweir, killing evildoers. I wonder what a Valdorian Age version of Harbinger would be like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gillen Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age I'm apparently not the only one who thinks of this as "Dark Champions fantasy." JG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamePhil Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age I'm apparently not the only one who thinks of this as "Dark Champions fantasy." Are you saying that's a bad thing? Little does anyone know, but the site now occupied by Hudson City was once the city of Elweir. The mystic resonance and hauntings from that ancient city is the real reason that the Pearl City is as it is: the corruption, the filth (human and otherwise), and the lack of superpowered intervention. The spirit world does not want a repeat of what happened to their city, so they arrange coincidence and apathy to keep the superpowered community away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age I think you're on to something, dude. The Prince of Elweir's palace is called the Palace of the Pearl, and he sits on the Pearl Throne... Makes you wonder if Foom's Sinking Tower is buried under Hudson City somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellS Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age I think you're on to something, dude. The Prince of Elweir's palace is called the Palace of the Pearl, and he sits on the Pearl Throne... Makes you wonder if Foom's Sinking Tower is buried under Hudson City somewhere. If that were the case it would be very cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age I think you're on to something, dude. The Prince of Elweir's palace is called the Palace of the Pearl, and he sits on the Pearl Throne... Makes you wonder if Foom's Sinking Tower is buried under Hudson City somewhere. Now that is an interesting idea for a linkage to the past. Continents may rise and fall, and the face of the Earth may change, but Elweir lives forever, a sinkhole of depravity and crime that the gods avoid due to its wickedness. In this case, the new gods of the Earth, superhumans, subconsciously avoid Hudson City, the current incarnation of Elweir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gillen Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age Now that is an interesting idea for a linkage to the past. Continents may rise and fall' date=' and the face of the Earth may change, but Elweir lives forever, a sinkhole of depravity and crime that the gods avoid due to its wickedness. In this case, the new gods of the Earth, superhumans, subconsciously avoid Hudson City, the current incarnation of Elweir.[/quote'] Which just happens to be in New Jersey. JG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamePhil Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Re: Valdorian Age If that were the case it would be very cool. Well, Steve stated clearly in the book that they were never going to explain why HC was different, it just is. So explaining it that way certainly doesn't go against canon. If anything is truly "canon" in a game universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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