Enforcer84 Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Okay who wants to help me out? (geez don't all raise your hands at once...) I know the classic Greek and Western Elements are: Air Earth Fire Water and that the Japanese are...IIRC Earth Fire Metal Water Wood and If I am to believe Legends of the Five Rings its: Air Earth Fire Water Void are there other cultures that believe in elemental building blocks (Barring the periodic table. Yeah, yer real clever. I'm looking at you.)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_element Depending on later periods... Aether, or Heaven is also mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements and If I am to believe Legends of the Five Rings its: Well, if fictional cultures are okay . . . Sharon Green's series "The Blending" featured a culture that acknowledged Spirit as the 5th element. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Johnston Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements The word "quintessence" actually originated as a name for the invisible "fifth element". http://friesian.com/elements.htm Note that India started out with only three elements, fire, earth and water. Trimurti gave them a preference for threes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marketeer Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements and If I am to believe Legends of the Five Rings its: Air Earth Fire Water Void In-universe, L5R characters debate whether the Taint of the Shadowlands constitutes a 6th element, but the true elements are the five you mentioned, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted August 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements Alright, so Light Shadow Spirit. cool. The Cosmology of Earth in my Else Earth campaign world is complex; as Earth is an intradimensional nexus (a rarity, only 1000 or so worlds in the universe are nexis) Earth has a number of mystical, spiritual, and metaphysical realms attached to it. The Lands of Legend (where Dragons, Gods, Elves, and Dwarves live), Several "Elemental" planes, "Heavens", and "Hells"...etc. The most "popular" elemental planes are bigger than their lesser considered counterparts. The Plane of Earth is bigger than the Plane of Wood...infact the Eternal Forest in on one of the Great Mountain's plateaus.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Frisbee Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements At one point in my life I would have known this -- the Principia Discordia gets into a discussion of basic elements -- like Hodge and Podge, but I forget the others. Matt "Gettin'-older-by-the-minute" Frisbee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestnik Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements Okay who wants to help me out? (geez don't all raise your hands at once...) I know the classic Greek and Western Elements are: Air Earth Fire Water You left out ether. Earth moves downward, water to slightly above it, air to above that, fire goes straight up, and ether moves in circles (it's what the heavenly bodies were supposedly made of.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted August 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements You left out ether. Earth moves downward, water to slightly above it, air to above that, fire goes straight up, and ether moves in circles (it's what the heavenly bodies were supposedly made of.) The Ethereal Plane then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingly Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements It's been noted that the four classic elements are just the four states of matter (solid, liquid, gas, energy). Several years ago, some friends and I tried to come up with the "modern four elements." What we came up with are: Time Space Matter Energy It seemed to fit the bill, and led to some cool ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements It's been noted that the four classic elements are just the four states of matter (solid, liquid, gas, energy). Several years ago, some friends and I tried to come up with the "modern four elements." What we came up with are: Time Space Matter Energy It seemed to fit the bill, and led to some cool ideas. I would think, these days, that the four basic elements are: Carbs Reality TV Rap Music French Fries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements Porn Flame Wars Jokes More Porn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestnik Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements The Ethereal Plane then? "In his stoichiology Aristotle adopts the four elements, or radical principles, which Empedocles introduced. He teaches, however, that the celestial space is filled with a body different from the four elements. This seems to be the part assigned by him to ether.{64} Ether, then, is neither a fifth element entering with the other four into the constitution of the terrestrial world, nor, as is sometimes maintained, an undifferentiated substratum, like the apeiron of Anaximander, from which the four elements originated. It is the constituent of celestial bodies. The natural motion of ether is circular; that of the other elements is upward or downward, according as they are naturally endowed with lightness or with heaviness. It is hardly necessary to remark that until Newton's time there existed the belief that each particular body moved towards its own place, upward or downward, in virtue of the light or heavy elements which it contained." http://www2.nd.edu/Departments//Maritain/etext/hop11.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements Beer Chocolate Coffee Pizza or Fat Salt Sugar Caffeine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StGrimblefig Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements Funk has only three elements: Earth, Wind & Fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements It's been noted that the four classic elements are just the four states of matter (solid, liquid, gas, energy). Several years ago, some friends and I tried to come up with the "modern four elements." What we came up with are: Time Space Matter Energy It seemed to fit the bill, and led to some cool ideas. That works for me, given that those are the four things a universe is required to have to function. Definitely 'basic building blocks'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemurion Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements I like the Time - Space - Matter - Energy set because it also breaks down into two dualities-- Spacetime and Matter-Energy which gives yet another way to handle them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingly Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements I like the Time - Space - Matter - Energy set because it also breaks down into two dualities-- Spacetime and Matter-Energy which gives yet another way to handle them.That was one of my constraints in coming up with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements Hmm... Pop Rock Hard Rock Heavy Metal Grunge??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkham Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements For the scientific: Weak Nuclear Strong Nuclear Gravity Electromagnetism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements ...and Pie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements It's been noted that the four classic elements are just the four states of matter (solid, liquid, gas, energy). Several years ago, some friends and I tried to come up with the "modern four elements." What we came up with are: Time Space Matter Energy It seemed to fit the bill, and led to some cool ideas. Or solid liquid gas plasma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements Fictional cultures count? My old RuneQuest campagine, very loosely based on Glorantha, used Elemental Magic for Earth Air Fire Water Darkness Chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: The "Classic" Elements Quarks, leptons, and neutrinos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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