wcw43921 Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots The source of Teleios's notes. I like this. I wouldn't mind knowing more about Captain Chronos' mission in this time--I said as much way back when in the thread for Champions Universe: News Of The World. The paragraph on page 103 was interesting enough, and the addition of the villain Timelapse from Villains, Vandals & Vermin helped to flesh him out a little. Still, I find it difficult to believe that Steve didn't have a particular storyline in mind when he created the character. I like The Monster, but I'm not sure there should be an explanation for him--if for no other reason than there hasn't been one before. None of the previous editions have an origin for him--let him remain a mystery. Steve hinted in one of his chats that he had a really cool origin for the current version of Mechanon--I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd like to know what it is. Hmm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobGreenwade Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots I think there may be enough material here for a small book... say, call it Secrets Of The Champions Universe, and schedule it for release in late 2009. I, for one, would be all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots Yeah, that one is well up there for me, as well. Ditto Mechanon and the Hzeel. Let's see, what else has been on my mind... The ascension of a new Archmage. The final battle between Heaven and Hell over Vibora Bay. The identity and motives of GRAB's patron. The fate of the Ancient Empyreans. What's the source of the meteorites that empowered the various Meteor Men (Mans?). What is the Monster? Who created Leech, and why? Who and where is the third child of Nama? Speaking of children, are there any other superpowered offspring of the Zodiac Working besides Frag? How's Dr. Yin Wu progressing on creating the Jade Mirror of Transcendence? I'll probably think of others later. As my REP to you states. That's Bloody Brilliant. Thank you "Selected+Copied+Pasted" QM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots Empyreans... Indeed, does Thayla eventually save them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Hiemforth Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots The source of Teleios's notes.Beat me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestnik Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots The source of Teleios's notes. CLOWN, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted January 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots Who is Krim, really. He's an AMWAY salesman from Poughkeepsie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots He's an AMWAY salesman from Poughkeepsie. Wow. That IS evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots I think there may be enough material here for a small book... say' date=' call it [i']Secrets Of The Champions Universe[/i], and schedule it for release in late 2009. I, for one, would be all over it. Clever notion! I expect we'll have a Fifth Edition resolution to the Tournament of the Dragon at some point, but since I own Watchers of the Dragon I'm not in an urgent hurry for it. But that does remind me: What's the relationship between the Dragon and the Nagas? On the "artifact" front, Champions Universe: News Of The World gave us more details about the Janus Key (thanksverymuch), but I'd be interested in the current disposition of the Serpent Lantern and the Basilisk Orb, and how close the Mandragalore is to being reassembled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Major Tom Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots Clever notion! I expect we'll have a Fifth Edition resolution to the Tournament of the Dragon at some point, but since I own Watchers of the Dragon I'm not in an urgent hurry for it. But that does remind me: What's the relationship between the Dragon and the Nagas? On the "artifact" front, Champions Universe: News Of The World gave us more details about the Janus Key (thanksverymuch), but I'd be interested in the current disposition of the Serpent Lantern and the Basilisk Orb, and how close the Mandragalore is to being reassembled. I don't know if it's the case in the CU of the 5th Ed., but in The Ultimate Super-Mage (4th Ed.) the Nagas were essentially secret guardians of mankind, providing covert assistance to mages and/or mystically-aware people in order to fight evil. IIRC, they were also enemies of the Dragon. Major Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojira Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots I think there may be enough material here for a small book... say' date=' call it [i']Secrets Of The Champions Universe[/i], and schedule it for release in late 2009. I, for one, would be all over it. This is a cool idea, for any genre universe really. I think I'd like to see a bunch of mini-adventures to go with each "secret," showing how players might discover said secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots I don't know if it's the case in the CU of the 5th Ed.' date=' but in [i']The Ultimate Super-Mage[/i] (4th Ed.) the Nagas were essentially secret guardians of mankind, providing covert assistance to mages and/or mystically-aware people in order to fight evil. IIRC, they were also enemies of the Dragon. Major Tom They're the same thing in 5E CU. There just isn't very much about them. Like an origin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots He's an AMWAY salesman from Poughkeepsie. Daaaauuuummmmnnn that's off the hook evil right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots They're the same thing in 5E CU. There just isn't very much about them. Like an origin. And why they oppose the Dragon and help mankind against it. Both the 4E and 5E descriptions of the Nagas raise those questions, but leave them unanswered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots The Hellstone is another mystic artifact of interest. Since it took out the last Archmage its fate has been unknown, but several of the CU's occult power players have been sniffing around Russia lately looking for some trace of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Impudite Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots Isn't Dr. Sebastian Poe supposed to have been released from prison by now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots Isn't Dr. Sebastian Poe supposed to have been released from prison by now? He was sentenced to a decade back in '95. He should be out in the world, plotting. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots Mmm, the 'New Psi'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots Mmm' date=' the 'New Psi'?[/quote'] With the recent fracturing of PSI, and Menton on ice in Stronghold, this would seem like the perfect time for Dr. Poe to regroup the remnants of the organization around himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobGreenwade Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots A really minor one that just now occurred to me: what was "the final fate of Seeker" as mentioned on page 52 of Millennium City? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Impudite Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots A really minor one that just now occurred to me: what was "the final fate of Seeker" as mentioned on page 52 of Millennium City? Russel Crow threw a phone at him, putting him into a persistent vegetative state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots Since several of the issues mentioned on this thread have come up in past board discussions, I thought it would be apropos to provide links to some that I could find for people interested in the speculation: Origin of Mechanon Origin of Teleios Origin of the Monster The Ancient Empyreans The Dragon and the Nagas Divine War in Vibora Bay (WARNING: Contains Spoilers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots In my own most recent campaign I created CU-based origins for the Monster and Leech, both tied to the latest incarnation of DEMON. As they involve GM-only information about DEMON I'll put the details in Spoiler tags: The Monster is formed by Demoiselle Nocturne, of DEMON's Inner Circle, out of the evil dreams of her "sanctum," the twisted mind of the child Henry Francis Krueger. Henry's murderous dreams are intense enough to manifest in the waking world, giving Nocturne a powerful enforcer or just a means to act out her more violent impulses. As a dream construct the Monster is essentially immortal, since Nocturne can simply recreate him if he's "killed". Leech is the creation of another Inner Circle member, the Coin Collector. (The mind-controlling coin mentioned in Leech's origin gave me the tie-in.) The CC has learned a ritual to spread the Qliphothic taint on his soul to others, warping their bodies and minds and enslaving them to his will. In my campaign CC had made several "Leeches" to serve as his assassins, keeping them in major bodies of water around the world until needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMike Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots Only one, but it's been around for a long time in both 4th and 5th editions with very little expansion or information: The Cult of The Red Banner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boll Weevil Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Re: Champions Universe: The Unresolved Questions/Plots So this is what happens when you Google "Qliphothic taint". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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