Jason S.Walters Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 Champions: The Super Role Playing Game (4th edition) is now available POD in black-and-white softcover on RPGNow. Kaze9999, Sketchpad and Beast 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Walsh Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 I'm glad to hear it! Would you consider a Kickstarter to get it re-edited and re-typeset? Sketchpad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchpad Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 Will this be open for Hall of Champions use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchpad Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 51 minutes ago, GM Joe said: Would you consider a Kickstarter to get it re-edited and re-typeset? I would back that. Heck, for that matter it be nice to have stretch goals to colorize the book, make a HD Update for it, and to include a remastered GM Screen. DreadDomain and Joe Walsh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Walsh Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Sketchpad said: I would back that. Heck, for that matter it be nice to have stretch goals to colorize the book, make a HD Update for it, and to include a remastered GM Screen. Great point. That GM screen and the booklet in it were golden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 53 minutes ago, Sketchpad said: Will this be open for Hall of Champions use? While I'm obviously not Jason, he has explicitly stated that Hall of Champions can use any edition of Champions/Hero that the writer wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 Softcover 4e BBB is full of win. Spence and Joe Walsh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchpad Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 I would love to get one in HC again. While I still have my old BBB, it's seen better days. Joe Walsh and Korgoth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchpad Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 5 hours ago, GM Joe said: Great point. That GM screen and the booklet in it were golden. Imagine if it were made with some of the modern conventions. Having a nice HC GM Screen would be sweet! Especially with that Perez art on it. Joe Walsh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadDomain Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Sketchpad said: I would back that. Heck, for that matter it be nice to have stretch goals to colorize the book, make a HD Update for it, and to include a remastered GM Screen. Yes, this. A full colour, remastered Champions 4E would be glorious. Sketchpad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Bushido Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 Don't get super excited yet. I think the POD company may have the wrong PDF: Brian Stanfield 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Walsh Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 31 minutes ago, Duke Bushido said: Don't get super excited yet. I think the POD company may have the wrong PDF: Yikes. That's really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadDomain Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 12 hours ago, Duke Bushido said: Don't get super excited yet. I think the POD company may have the wrong PDF: Thanks for the heads-up. I was considering buying the POD but I will give it a pass for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Stanfield Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 Yeah, what's available now is illegible. Definitely not "high quality scans" as advertised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 Glad I have 2 copies of that book should a game of 4th ed comes up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Bushido Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 Only two?! Piker! Joe Walsh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Duke Bushido said: Only two?! Piker! well 3 if you count the pdf or 4 if the back up counts and the whole 4th ed bundle when it came out besides at 5$ it was hard to turn down Duke Bushido 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadDomain Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 5/6/2020 at 2:33 AM, Brian Stanfield said: Yeah, what's available now is illegible. Definitely not "high quality scans" as advertised. Anyone can confirm that the POD is now of good quality? Pictures would be appreciated! Joe Walsh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Bushido Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Has someone announced a change to the source scan? If it hasn't changed from the original, I can offer proof that it isn't. If it's been changed, then I'd like to try again. DreadDomain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadDomain Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 Yes, not sure what was the source file. On Drivethrurpg, there are four versions of the PDF. These three seem to be versions of the same scan (which is poor) (Champions4E-Corebook-20170410.pdf) - Based on the date, It's clearly the original file uploaded to Drivethru (Champions4E-Corebook_(bookmarked).pdf) - The file above but with bookmark (Champions_The_Super_Role_Playing_Game_Repaired.pdf) - Same scan but what was repaired? The bookmarks disappeared. And this one is a much, much better scan and has bookmarks. (Champions_4e_-_Christian_Fasy_Version.pdf). No clue if the POD is based on one of these versions but to avoid confusion, the first three files should be removed from Drivethrurpg as they are significantly poorer than the Christian Fasy Version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 The only 4E PDF that I have that isn't a crappy scan is for the 4E Hero System Rulesbook. Unfortunately, that's only half of the 4E Champions BBB, and I don't have a PDF of the Champions section alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 hour ago, zslane said: The only 4E PDF that I have that isn't a crappy scan is for the 4E Hero System Rulesbook. Unfortunately, that's only half of the 4E Champions BBB, and I don't have a PDF of the Champions section alone. I'd recommend the BBB PDF in the Hero Store. $18 and includes three different versions of the book. But while they are various degrees of crispness on the screen, IIRC they are not at a high enough resolution for POD to get a good print, they are complete and readable while you look for hard copy. There is someone that is in the process of doing scans of 4th Edition Hero books that will be of a high enough resolution to put out a good POD print. They can weigh in if they choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Bushido Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Spence said: I'd recommend the BBB PDF in the Hero Store. $18 and includes three different versions of the book. But while they are various degrees of crispness on the screen, IIRC they are not at a high enough resolution for POD to get a good print, they are complete and readable while you look for hard copy. There is someone that is in the process of doing scans of 4th Edition Hero books that will be of a high enough resolution to put out a good POD print. They can weigh in if they choose. This is one-hundred percent true; the resolution is far too low for clean prints. You only _really_ need something in the order of 32 dpi to make something look fantastic on a screen. You need way, way, _way_ more than that to make it look good in print. In general, anything under 150 isn't worth printing, and 300 dpi is "reasonably crisp." I prefer 600 to 1200, but the files are massive, which is why you don't see many of them. Some time back, Spence sent me a debound 4e (and several other books) that I intend to use to scan 4e myself and see if we can get that scan used for the POD. Alas, I have to wait until winter (the shorter sunlight hours mean slightly shorter work days, meaning I have a few minutes in the evenings to do stuff like this) before I can really begin. Spence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 Unfortunately there are only a few limited operations doing Print on Demand, and most of them aren't... as good as they used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadDomain Posted September 19, 2021 Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 Thanks, there are enough in the answers to confirm that I should hold-off buying the POD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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