Logan D. Hurricanes Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings Small print runs' date=' I hope. Otherwise, it doesn't speak well for the humanity of the publishers . . . ^^;[/quote'] I'm glad that we don't have to buy our literature from the university. There's several bookstores -- physical and online -- that carries our reading list. Bwahahahaha!! Textbook publishers ... humanity! ... ROFLMAO!! Text books are an authorized and endorsed scam. The prices are exorbitant whether you buy them from the university bookstore or and independent dealer. The publishers charge these prices because they can. They know they're overcharging, but they can get away with it because they have a captive market. And they get the professors who desperately need to publish, lest they perish, to go along with it. The students, the schools, the authors, the publishers, they all know what's going on. Nobody wants to change it though, there's too much money in it. And that's not mere paranoid conspiracy theory, that's from discussions with textbook authors and salespersons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings . . . Just-a whadd-a I suspected-a . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings Bwahahahaha!! Textbook publishers ... humanity! ... ROFLMAO!! Text books are an authorized and endorsed scam. The prices are exorbitant whether you buy them from the university bookstore or and independent dealer. The publishers charge these prices because they can. They know they're overcharging, but they can get away with it because they have a captive market. And they get the professors who desperately need to publish, lest they perish, to go along with it. The students, the schools, the authors, the publishers, they all know what's going on. Nobody wants to change it though, there's too much money in it. And that's not mere paranoid conspiracy theory, that's from discussions with textbook authors and salespersons. thanks for the info. and you know the worst thing about textbooks? No one ever F888 reads them! How can you when you are studing 3 or 4 subjects concurrently. me, I'm luckily enough to read 1 (text)book a semester (13 weeks) and you need to buy them for the tutorial questions. (our university structure is usually a 2-hour lecture and a week later a 1-hour tutorial to reinforce the lecture. Mostly the tutorial is answering the back of the chapter questions from the textbook, which usually forms part fo the final exam (about 70% of the final grade of the unit. So bottom-line, we the students need the textbook to pass the unit. Textbook scam indeed.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings Back in the late 1990s I remember reading in a source I trusted (but I cannot now remember) that college textbooks produced 25% of the profit -- not revenue, profit -- of the publishing industry of North America. It is nothing less than piratical. Anything you can do to hurt those bloodsuckers is fine by me. It sure isn't the textbook authors who are realizing all that money. If I had stayed in mainstream academia, I would have written my own 101 textbook, self-published on CDROM, and sold it for the price of media. As things are, as a college instructor I'm aiding and abetting a shakedown racket, and I despise those running the racket and myself for participating in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMan Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings Textbook publishers (and moreso textbook RESELLERS) price gouge. Plain and simple. They do things every day that would be considered criminal in ANY OTHER business. But students rarely exercise their political leverage (as voters) and do anything about it. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be, but as it isn't, it 'aint. Reportedly, before Islam, the Kaaba in Mecca was home to the images of 360 Deities. It sounds like the ancient Arabs had a well-rounded religion. Lucius Alexander The palindromedary retorts that Lucius is basing that conclusion on circular reasoning. ...Which brings us back to where we started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings I need to take a break from people that suck. Feel free to come on over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings Feel free to come on over. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings . . . In a company of non-suckers -- who sucks the most? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings . . . In a company of non-suckers -- who sucks the most? Actually, at the company, I don't have to deal with the people that suck. Unfortunately, my job requires me to weed the suck from the non-suck and this weekend, I only get to deal with the suck. At least with the backyard breeder that was selling puppies in front of our adoption event, I didn't have to be polite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings No holding back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings Actually, at the company, I don't have to deal with the people that suck. Unfortunately, my job requires me to weed the suck from the non-suck and this weekend, I only get to deal with the suck. At least with the backyard breeder that was selling puppies in front of our adoption event, I didn't have to be polite. holy crap! I can't believe they'd do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings That's people for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings I had a phone interview with a library in Utah today. I think it went well. Here's hoping! Let us know if you come out. Where in Utah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings holy crap! I can't believe they'd do that Seems to only happen in Grand Junction and I think it's been different people each time. We talked to someone in Country code enforcement and next time we're out, they'll have someone working on the weekend to come check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings I had a phone interview with a library in Utah today. I think it went well. Here's hoping! best of luck (as opposed to average of luck) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings Break a leg, in the theatrical sense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings Going East Coast (v) - To berate someone in a loud and beligerant tone of voice. Attempt to get your way through volume and rage. Make it perfectly clear, with no room for doubt, what you expect and how little you think of the other person. "Oh damn, he's going East Coast on that guy. . ." Works especially well on weak California AT&T technicians. Whereas for a lot of us it just gets us to be less and less helpful. In general when someone takes that route with me, I change from trying to help them to working on getting them calmed down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings Yeah... see, when that happens I (and most I know) aren't actually worked up, angry or in any way needing to be calmed down. We just need the other person to stop being uncooperative. Or (in the case of most AT&T techs) stupid. Volume =/= Angry. Especially where I grew up. Really, to properly "Go East Coast" on someone, you actually do need to be calm and collected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings Yeah... see, when that happens I (and most I know) aren't actually worked up, angry or in any way needing to be calmed down. We just need the other person to stop being uncooperative. Or (in the case of most AT&T techs) stupid. Volume =/= Angry. Especially where I grew up. Really, to properly "Go East Coast" on someone, you actually do need to be calm and collected. Oh, I know most people when they go that route aren't really upset. Which is in fact one of the reasons that I stop doing anything helpful and just work on calming them down until they stop it. I react poorly to the whole "squeaky wheel" bit. But then again if I'm not being helpful in the first place it is generally because there is a problem with either what they are asking for, or a problem in communicating what they want. Neither of which is going to change if they pretend to be mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings Conquer the world... http://www.ikariam.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings Let us know if you come out. Where in Utah? Salt Lake City, University of Utah. Wait, does Utah have another city? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings . . . Utah really exists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teh bunneh Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings Salt Lake City' date=' University of Utah.[/quote'] SLC's only about a 6 hour drive from these parts... (So you'd leave the house at about 11am, get here for the game at 5pm, we usually wrap up around 10pm, so you'd be home again by 4am -- no problem!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrito Boy Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Re: Musings on Random Musings Salt Lake City, University of Utah. Wait, does Utah have another city? It has two others: Ogden and Provo. I've been there so I know they exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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