nexus Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 What Superhero RPG would be your fave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellS Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... Pulsar Games has new owners and some interesting plans for next year so MEGS would most-likey be what I'd be playing. Marvel Superheroes was fun too but a little too simplistic. I tried playing M&M a couple of times but it really didn't seem to fit for me. I don't care for Tri-stat at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theron Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... Probably Marvel Super Heroes (the FASERIP version). Or V&V. It was my favorite before Champions came along (not that we had a lot of choices back then, it was basically V&V, Superhero 2044, and the modified version of Gamma World I invented in high school). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Champsguy Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... DC Heroes. It's the closest to Champions, and actually has some advantages over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... Either Marvel or SAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristopher Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... I've never really come across a superhero RPG system I liked, except for Champions/HERO. All the others seem to have a set of assumptions about the setting and tone, and try too hard to encode a certain "genre feel" into the rules. You either play with their assumptions, or start editing the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexus Posted December 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... Either Marvel or SAS Tri Stat or D20 SAS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... None. I was burned out on D&D when Hero first came out and our GMs were experimenting with various homegrown character generation and combat systems and tables. None really worked in detail as well as Hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... Tri Stat or D20 SAS? Tri stat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proditor Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... I guess V&V or MSH. Possibly DC Heroes, but the other two had a shallower learning curve for newbies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypnotoad, the Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... Well, from my limited exposure way back when, if I hadn't picked up Champions, I'd have picked up MSH or (please don't lynch me) Heroes Unlimited. Back at the shop where I used to live, Heroes Unlimited had a more prominent place on the shelf than V & V, so naturally it stood out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... Ye olde Advanced Marvel Super heroes with a few rules stolen from V&V. Thank Goodness for Champs though. Whew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magmarock Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... I don't know... GURPS seems to be stealing, erm, I mean seems awful close to the Hero System rules. Mags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WhammeWhamme Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... ...I wouldn't be playing a supers roleplaying game. I probably wouldn't be a roleplayer at all. Well... okay, I might be playing something 'else'. Dragon Warriors maybe... Now, if 5th had merely never come out... no change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualplayer Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... Superworld had this stat called SIZE that made Growth and Shrinking a breeze. I vote for Superworld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... Hard to tell at this point ... the best bet would probably be the Marvel Super Heroes Adventure Game (with the Fate deck). I had some good fun running that, though I usually need to make up my own villains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... I was hardcore Fantasy before Champions. I REALLY had problems with the D&D system, but hadn't found another game that I liked enough (and had enough support/products to make it worth while). If Champions wasn't around I would still probably be playing D&D (egads) or some other fantasy system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transmetahuman Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... What Superhero RPG would be your fave? Same as I use now: GURPS. Of course, if Champions didn't exist then GURPS probably wouldn't be recognizable. They do owe (and acknowledge) a big debt to HERO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... I would have to go with Superworld. I bought a copy of the Worlds of Wonder version when it came out, so it was available. Its system was nice, clean and simple, so I might have actually been willing to play it. Of course, Superworld itself owes a bit of a debt to Champions, but it's still quite likely that Chaosium would have published a superhero RPG even without the success of Champions. Hmm... roads less travelled... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magmarock Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... Same as I use now: GURPS. Of course' date=' if Champions didn't exist then GURPS probably wouldn't be recognizable. They do owe (and acknowledge) a big debt to HERO.[/quote'] Yuppers. With each new edition, GURPS is looking closer and closer to the Hero System Rules. I wouldn't be surprised if DOJ filed a lawsuit in the near future. Mags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... Yuppers. With each new edition, GURPS is looking closer and closer to the Hero System Rules. I wouldn't be surprised if DOJ filed a lawsuit in the near future. Mags The two games evolved from the same sources, and are now trying to do the sme basic things. No one involved has much money. A lawsuit will happen two days after never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... Nightlife, Ace! Agents, and Super-Ace! Agents, all by Stellar Games. Comedy Horror and Super Hero Games that owed more to D&D than Champions. Maybe GURPS, if it had evolved at all. I like Tri-Stat and Aberrant, but I doubt either could have existed without Champions (Steve Long even worked on Aberrant). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... I'd be using Issaries HeroQuest system to run supers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutant for Hire Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... Mutants and Mastermind impresses me, though I think I'd wait for second or preferably third edition while they work out the bugs in the system. I'm also curious as to GURPS Fourth Edition. From existing systems, the old Marvel Superheroes is very tempting. A nice and simple system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GestaltBennie Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: If Champions didn't exist... I'd probably be playing Superworld, though I might have switched to M&M when it came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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