Hermit Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1176.html New one up. Hel is such a buzzkill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 And Again! http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1177.html pinecone and L. Marcus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 Rich continuing with the theme of messed-up fatherhood all around if you think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 40 minutes ago, Cygnia said: Rich continuing with the theme of messed-up fatherhood all around if you think about it. Yeah. The line seems to start with Roy's pop and then goes around the setting at least once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 New one up! http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1178.html Hermit and L. Marcus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 Elan, the myth, the legend! The expert on Chapter Breaks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 And gasping at the right moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 Another new one up! http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1179.html Hermit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 ... That's ... a novel way to take care of the personal hygiene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 41 minutes ago, L. Marcus said: ... That's ... a novel way to take care of the personal hygiene. How many times can a D&D3/Pathfinder1 player-character memorize Create Water in a single day? I'm also wondering what the product of food-creation spells actually tastes like. Is it pablum? Something nasty like Soylent? I imagine there's a reason why PCs go to inns and market food carts instead of simply casting Create Food twice a day to meet their needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Bushido Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 What makes you think Soylent doesn't taste good? To quote Leela: "It varies from person to person." Lawnmower Boy and drunkonduty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkonduty Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 The official description (DnD 3/PF) of Create Food & Water describes the food as bland and flavourless. So there's still good reason to go to the tavern. And beer, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 Love the Treeslayers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Michael Hopcroft said: How many times can a D&D3/Pathfinder1 player-character memorize Create Water in a single day? In Pathfinder, 0 level spells (Orisons for Divine; Cantrips for Arcane) do not fade from memory when cast, so preparing Create Water as one of your 0-level slots means you can cast it every round, all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Michael Hopcroft said: How many times can a D&D3/Pathfinder1 player-character memorize Create Water in a single day? I'm also wondering what the product of food-creation spells actually tastes like. Is it pablum? Something nasty like Soylent? I imagine there's a reason why PCs go to inns and market food carts instead of simply casting Create Food twice a day to meet their needs. 3 hours ago, drunkonduty said: The official description (DnD 3/PF) of Create Food & Water describes the food as bland and flavourless. So there's still good reason to go to the tavern. And beer, obviously. That sounds like a fate worse than numerous other fates that are, on the whole, pretty bad. 1 hour ago, Hugh Neilson said: In Pathfinder, 0 level spells (Orisons for Divine; Cantrips for Arcane) do not fade from memory when cast, so preparing Create Water as one of your 0-level slots means you can cast it every round, all day. And what are the consequences if there are people out there (possibly a lot of them) who can create water out of thin air? Forget showers -- what about literal rainmakers who go around irrigating farms for a price in the middle of a drought? Does the supply of water in the world remain limited? Will the water table eventually be overwhelmed by all the new moisture to the point that affects the overall climate, making the world wetter as a whole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkonduty Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Michael Hopcroft said: And what are the consequences if there are people out there (possibly a lot of them) who can create water out of thin air? Forget showers -- what about literal rainmakers who go around irrigating farms for a price in the middle of a drought? Does the supply of water in the world remain limited? Will the water table eventually be overwhelmed by all the new moisture to the point that affects the overall climate, making the world wetter as a whole? Maybe Create Water only condenses water from the air in the immediate vicinity. Although, if that were the case there'd be a limit on it, which there isn't. Maybe the spell conjures water from elsewhere in the world and distills it in the process. As for saving drought stricken areas, yeah, it's the bomb. Better living through magic and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 Maybe Create Water opens a tap into the elemental plane of water and fills up whatever receptacle is handy and then shuts itself off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 hours ago, drunkonduty said: Maybe Create Water only condenses water from the air in the immediate vicinity. Although, if that were the case there'd be a limit on it, which there isn't. Maybe the spell conjures water from elsewhere in the world and distills it in the process. As for saving drought stricken areas, yeah, it's the bomb. Better living through magic and all that. I think all of this means that the GM needs to think through what it means to live in a world where there is magic. In such a world is a drought purely meteorological or does it mean that there are magical forces at work that might take against those who counter their drought? Are there competing divine forces at play? Obviously the odd little creation of water to ameliorate the edge of the drought for people is overlooked but a concerted effort to counter the effects of the drought might find that certain divine magics are blocked or drought-beating clerics might find themselves subject to the personal attention of divine messengers who want this to stop. So many stories can come from players thinking that they can exploit magical abilities without thinking through the metaphysical consequences. I think I would refrain from countering magical abuse with scientific explanations... 🙂 Doc pinecone, assault and drunkonduty 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 Create Water unlimited times makes for a new riff on old questions. When a 5th level cleric can cure any disease at least once a day, how many are there, why don't we train more if there are not enough, and why do we still have illnesses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 Because there's a God of Disease that keeps inflicting them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 It's a right bastard, that deity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkonduty Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 6 hours ago, L. Marcus said: It's a right bastard, that deity. By the name of Incabulos in standard DnD/GReyhawk, IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkonduty Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 14 hours ago, Doc Democracy said: I think all of this means that the GM needs to think through what it means to live in a world where there is magic. In such a world is a drought purely meteorological or does it mean that there are magical forces at work that might take against those who counter their drought? Are there competing divine forces at play? Obviously the odd little creation of water to ameliorate the edge of the drought for people is overlooked but a concerted effort to counter the effects of the drought might find that certain divine magics are blocked or drought-beating clerics might find themselves subject to the personal attention of divine messengers who want this to stop. So many stories can come from players thinking that they can exploit magical abilities without thinking through the metaphysical consequences. I think I would refrain from countering magical abuse with scientific explanations... 🙂 Doc Very good point. 10 hours ago, Hugh Neilson said: Create Water unlimited times makes for a new riff on old questions. When a 5th level cleric can cure any disease at least once a day, how many are there, why don't we train more if there are not enough, and why do we still have illnesses? An oft debated point on DnD forums. Almost inevitably segues into (or from) the Wall of Iron spell making iron mining/refining obsolete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeropoint Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 1:20 AM, Doc Democracy said: In such a world is a drought purely meteorological or does it mean that there are magical forces at work that might take against those who counter their drought? Are there competing divine forces at play? Obviously the odd little creation of water to ameliorate the edge of the drought for people is overlooked but a concerted effort to counter the effects of the drought might find that certain divine magics are blocked It never came up in the homebrew fantasy world/game I have, but areas could be "aspected" or "flavored" magically such that certain categories of spells would be easier or harder to cast. A magic user trying to Create Water in a desert, or in the middle of a drought-stricken area, would have a harder time of it. Also I had an area which was once a breadbasket agricultural region but is now a wasteland thanks to past use of strategic level magic; no one is just going to walk in there and fix the problem by spamming noob spells. Doc Democracy and drunkonduty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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