Thirdbase Posted March 21, 2003 Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 UNTIL out of the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintHax Posted March 21, 2003 Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 Confusion If it isn't too late... I've always had the hardest time generating a power that stuns or dazes a target. The closest thing I could get was a Flash, but it doesn't work right. I also tried an Entangle, but again not right. I need a power to basically Con Stun an opponent and still be balanced. For example, a little 2d6 EB that Stuns really easy (I'm thinking a advantage similar to Double KB). Also, making someone sick is difficult. I want to 1/2 their movement, but can't do that. I can drain "any movement power", but I only want 1/2 of it-- resisted by CON. Reduces CV (OCV, DCV, and ECV). And... a power that adds activation rolls to skills. I would assume this would be some sort of Drain anything: adds specific limitation (-0). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuk Posted March 21, 2003 Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 Re: Confusion Originally posted by SaintHax I need a power to basically Con Stun an opponent and still be balanced. For example, a little 2d6 EB that Stuns really easy (I'm thinking a advantage similar to Double KB). That could just be regular EB, Stun Only, only to Stun. Depending on your campaign I'd probably give that at least -3/4. Make it NND if you need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintHax Posted March 21, 2003 Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 Chuk, from what I understand, the UNTIL book will have nothing but powers that can be created w/ the current books. What it will do is show us how to create the hard ones. As you noted, the Limitation amount is a gray area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catacomb Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 Go in depth about VPP's and elemental controls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintHax Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 Proper Planning I'd like to see a "Batman like" vpp. Batman doesn't build his stuff on the field, but he always manages to have what he needs on hand. Once he pulls out a device from his belt, it's there till he get's back to the Bat Cave. I was thinking it would be a vpp, no rolls, instant, but w/ some type of charges limitation to represent that he can't change it constantly. Not sure. Haven't really sat down and chewed on it-- that's why we have Steve :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted March 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 For that sort of thing, SH, you'll have to wait until next year's Gadgets And Gear. No gadgetry in the Superpowers Database, since gadgets aren't really "superpowers" as the book uses the term, and it's such a broad topic it definitely deserves its own book anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David E Martin Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 UNTIL Superpowers Database I'm vaguely familiar with the Marvel RPG book you're discussing, though I've never read it cover to cover. I don't have any intention of contacting anyone and asking him to participate in the creation of the USPD, for a whole bunch o' reasons. Oh, puh-leeeze! "Vaguely familiar"?????? Okay, if that's your story...... Obviously you were a lot more familiar with the UPB's half-sibling, DEO: Directive on Superpowers-- "And to Nikki Vrtis, for the Directive, and more." Not to mention openly copying DEO : DOS' format. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. But an honest acknowledgement, or better yet, a consulting fee would have been nice. Still, at least you came up with an original title. I cannot say that about the Mutants & Masterminds: Ultimate Powers Sourcebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? Oh wow, five year thread necromancy AND insulting to boot. We have a new winner in lows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proditor Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? Oh wow, five year thread necromancy AND insulting to boot. We have a new winner in lows. Especially since the forum has today as the join date, and that as his first post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? To be fair, if the poster is who he claims to be(the author or co-author of the two works in question), he's alleging something akin to IP theft by Mr. Long. To establish that, though, I think he'd have to at least post a page from the DOE book, or the old UPB, so there'd be a side by side comparison of the products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Goodwin Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? If I was going to make vague and unspecified allegations of "copying [...] format", my first look at whose format was copied would be the original AD&D first edition Player's Handbook. If you're going to publish a book of powers, spells, whatever, there's only so many formats you can do it in. Including a shorthand block of the power's requirements, range, and so on, is pretty obvious, and I have serious doubts it's protected IP. Then again, I'm not a lawyer, but I have a feeling I know of one who posts around here. Edit: Having looked at the book in question, I'm not sure what he's saying was copied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proditor Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? If I was going to make vague and unspecified allegations of "copying [...] format", my first look at whose format was copied would be the original AD&D first edition Player's Handbook. If you're going to publish a book of powers, spells, whatever, there's only so many formats you can do it in. Including a shorthand block of the power's requirements, range, and so on, is pretty obvious, and I have serious doubts it's protected IP. Then again, I'm not a lawyer, but I have a feeling I know of one who posts around here. Edit: Having looked at the book in question, I'm not sure what he's saying was copied. Yeah, seeing as the UPB was a listing and description of powers linked to a set of random die-roll tables, by the OP's logic, Jeff Dee should be gearing up to sue the ever loving %^&* out of the creators of the UPB. Just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? Yeah, seeing as the UPB was a listing and description of powers linked to a set of random die-roll tables, by the OP's logic, Jeff Dee should be gearing up to sue the ever loving %^&* out of the creators of the UPB. Just sayin'. yeah, but I think the OP is referring to the DC Universe powers sourcebook, which came out either at the same time or slightly before the USPD, IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proditor Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? yeah' date=' but I think the OP is referring to the DC Universe powers sourcebook, which came out either at the same time or slightly before the USPD, IIRC.[/quote'] Sort of, he starts by questioning Steve's claim that he wasn't familiar with the UPB, then he moves on to the DC Universe book. He continues to muddy the water by knocking on the M&M product name, which leads back to the UPB. So unless he clarifies, we have no way to know which one is really a bee in his bonnet. Either way, if he is who he claims to be, well: 1) I liked the UPB and the FF compendium, nice work. 2) This is probably the one of the most unprofessional ways to have handled your grievance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? Sort of, he starts by questioning Steve's claim that he wasn't familiar with the UPB, then he moves on to the DC Universe book. He continues to muddy the water by knocking on the M&M product name, which leads back to the UPB. So unless he clarifies, we have no way to know which one is really a bee in his bonnet. Either way, if he is who he claims to be, well: 1) I liked the UPB and the FF compendium, nice work. 2) This is probably the one of the most unprofessional ways to have handled your grievance. agreed. He could have just sent Steve a private message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? PIE! Pie Pie Pie Pie! CAKE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmurie Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? PIE! Pie Pie Pie Pie! CAKE! First you must survive... the test. AND then you will be baked *ZRKR* into a cake. (Orange Box, Half Life, Portal, Good Stuff) Wrenching this hideously messed up topic back on course... I'd like to see an essay of a few to several pages discussing the designer's approach to power creation. I mean, my attitude has always been that SFX covers so much that any power with more than a few extras sets off alarm bells. The "dear God not another Munchkin" warning bells. Maybe with some examples of powers that are potentially messed up, and how to refine the advantages and limitations taken so it's down to something technically sweet and not an ugly mass of advantages and limitations. No cure for munchkinism that, but I think there's a fair number of people who think slathering six mods onto an EB is really cool. Usually what they end up creating is just annoying. "This continuous sticky penetrating uncontrolled damage shield cumulative power with the activation roll and no conscious control can do what now?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Goodwin Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? Yeah' date=' seeing as the UPB was a listing and description of powers linked to a set of random die-roll tables, by the OP's logic, Jeff Dee should be gearing up to sue the ever loving %^&* out of the creators of the UPB.[/quote'] True, true. So I was thinking, maybe what he was getting at was listing out Powers and grouping them by type (Offense Powers, Defense Powers, Movement Powers, etc.)? Except USPD doesn't do that. It groups them by SFX. Fire Powers, Sonic Powers, Acid Powers, and so forth. Now, I do recall seeing in my third edition Champions book, a list of all of the Powers grouped by Offensive, Defensive, Movement, and Other. Third edition Champions, published in 1984. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? And then we don't see him for three days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamashii2000 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? Shhhhh! You will jinx us and he will return! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmurie Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? Seriously, was my suggestion even seen by Mssr. Long? Would he even bother monitoring this thread any more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? To Jeff T. here is Captain America's Shield Multipower (50 Points) OAF: Shield (-1) u) Armor +10 PD +10 ED u) CSL: DCV +2 u) EB [vs. PD] 8d6, 1/2 END (+1/4) u) KNB Resist -5" Total Cost 30 Points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? True, true. So I was thinking, maybe what he was getting at was listing out Powers and grouping them by type (Offense Powers, Defense Powers, Movement Powers, etc.)? Except USPD doesn't do that. It groups them by SFX. Fire Powers, Sonic Powers, Acid Powers, and so forth. Now, I do recall seeing in my third edition Champions book, a list of all of the Powers grouped by Offensive, Defensive, Movement, and Other. Third edition Champions, published in 1984. OTOH USPD does group the Powers within a particular SFX group by Offensive, Defensive, Movement, Sensory, and Miscellaneous. I'm just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Re: UNTIL Superpowers Database -- What Do *You* Want To See? What the flibberty-flabberty heck was that all about? dw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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