Matt Frisbee Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Hi everyone! I'm hoping I can tap the massive comic book brain trust out there to cull some ideas for metahuman villains that I haven't rehashed to death in my previous campaigns. What I'm looking for are metahumans (preferably Silver or Bronze age types) you personally think are (or were) pretty cool in the comics that simply didn't get the exposure you thought they deserved. Of course, you may want to give some Cliff's Notes on the character so I have some idea how to generate him or her (or it). Thank you in advance, and I'll rep as many of you as I can for your troubles. Matt "Bottom-of-the-barrel-of-monkeys" Frisbee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas Do these have to be from comic books, or are home-grown villains from our own Champions games okay? From comic books, I enjoyed: ... Spot, from the Spiderman comics. He was a scientist analyzing otherdimensional energy (from a hero, I believe). I think there was a lab accident, and he became covered with extradimensional "spots" that he could resize, place around (imagine the "portable hole" from Wile E Coyote cartoons) including scattered in mid-air. He would punch through one hole, and his fist would come out another hole a dozen meters away. I would simulate his powers with Teleportation, Extra-Dimensional Movement, and Stretching (doesn't pass through intervening space), as well as very high DCV with an Activation roll (if someone shoots or punches him but hits a spot) that varies depending on how many spots he's put out (the more he scatters in mid-air, the lower the Activation roll, since less spots now cover him). ... Red 9, a high school football star with a flying powered armor suit. Just a good 'ol boy with way too much power and a desire to have some fun with it. In my campaign, he became Max Extreme, a superhero wannabe with a control problem, master of the Move Through (usually unintentional). Typical Powered Armor powers with Requires Skill Roll (don't allow his skill to be too high) and Side Effects (loss of control) if he fails the skill roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobGreenwade Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas At the risk of getting a smackdown, I've often wondered what life would be like for the Inferior 5 if they coexisted with the mainstream DC universe.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas At the risk of getting a smackdown' date=' I've often wondered what life would be like for the Inferior 5 if they coexisted with the mainstream DC universe....[/quote'] You mean they don't? Actually, if they did, they would have been killed off, like (almost) all the other non-grim 'n' gritty heroes. Such stupidities aside, they're actually pretty tough, and lucky enough to compensate for their deficiencies. At the very least, they've shone that they can beat homages of most of the major Marvel hero teams... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Samson Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas Obscure characters? I know just the place... http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/ Go into profiles and just surf until you drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkmanDan Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas ... Spot' date=' from the Spiderman comics. He was a scientist analyzing otherdimensional energy (from a hero, I believe). I think there was a lab accident, and he became covered with extradimensional "spots" that he could resize, place around (imagine the "portable hole" from Wile E Coyote cartoons) including scattered in mid-air. He would punch through one hole, and his fist would come out another hole a dozen meters away. I would simulate his powers with Teleportation, Extra-Dimensional Movement, and Stretching (doesn't pass through intervening space), as well as very high DCV with an Activation roll (if someone shoots or punches him but hits a spot) that varies depending on how many spots he's put out (the more he scatters in mid-air, the lower the Activation roll, since less spots now cover him).[/quote'] Ha! First guy I thought of and he was the basis for my first Champions character. Did a bunch of that stuff. He was a complete wuss in his one appearance and got his butt thoroughly kicked (Spidey just told him to go home), but cool concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas I always liked themed pairs villains, such as the brother team of Stiletto and Discus, foes of Luke Cage; and the Hulk opponents Hammer and Anvil, a superpowered analog to the Defiant Ones. Stiletto Discus Hammer and Anvil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas Here's a page of over 200 obscure villains from Marvel, with stats for the old card-based Marvel system, which could possibly assist with HERO stats for 'em. http://members.fortunecity.com/jsc2593/villains.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas Hi everyone! I'm hoping I can tap the massive comic book brain trust out there to cull some ideas for metahuman villains that I haven't rehashed to death in my previous campaigns. What I'm looking for are metahumans (preferably Silver or Bronze age types) you personally think are (or were) pretty cool in the comics that simply didn't get the exposure you thought they deserved. Of course, you may want to give some Cliff's Notes on the character so I have some idea how to generate him or her (or it). Thank you in advance, and I'll rep as many of you as I can for your troubles. Matt "Bottom-of-the-barrel-of-monkeys" Frisbee Back in the days when Clark Kent was a television anchor, the rival network became envious that CK's guys were getting all the Superman stories so they financed the creation of a gadget-based superhero named "Blackrock" (named after CBS's headquarters building). His gimmick was that he absorbed TV and radio signals to fly and shoot energy blasts. (Which would in theory mean I suppose that he screwed up everyone's viewing every time he tried to do his thing). I kind of like those corporate characters and his dialog was funny with that "Stay tuned" and "Don't touch that dial" stuff. Capricorn was a one-shot foe in a Batman/Superman teamup. He was a terminally ill telepath who tried to use the threat of people's darkest secrets to get them to commit suicide. He successfully outmanuevered both of them only to die accidentally in the abandoned lead water system pipes underneath Gotham while making his escape. Batman and Superman never knew that that their secret IDs were safe again. And of course "Asbestos Lady". With her amazing power of dressing in asbestos...well OK she was pretty useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas Marvel had a guy named Slyde, a frictionless suited speedster. I don't know if he counts as obscure though. He was mostly a thief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Frisbee Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas Do these have to be from comic books' date=' or are home-grown villains from our own Champions games okay?[/quote'] I'm an equal-opportunity idea thief -- -- if you want to bring them in as idea fodder, please do! Matt "Enjoying-the-obscure-linkage-too" Frisbee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas In my campagine Toad has lost a lot of his self-esteem issues since he has started a romantic involvement with Frenzy (who due to the same relationship has fewer anger management issues). Asked what she saw in him, she responded "He can lick the back of his own neck and has super strength from the waist down. What do you think?" Haven't used him in my campagine, but always thought Kangaroo (Spiderman's first mutant foe btw) deserved a lot better than to be treated as a joke character. Again, super strength from the waist down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas Again' date=' super strength from the waist down.[/quote'] "Jinkies!" I'm not quite sure why that comes to mind, but it seems appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBaldy Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas How about... ANGAR THE SCREAMER? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoresLost Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas Back in the mid 60's Harvey comics tried to break into the Superhero comics. One of their characters lasted one small story arc. The villian was called Generalissimo Brainstorm. http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/p/pirana.htm Has an image of the generalissimo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneDaddy Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas Porcupine. Spider-man's arch ... ummm ... loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas Porcupine. Spider-man's arch ... ummm ... loser. To be fair, he at least had a semi-redemptive death if memory serves me correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas To be fair' date=' he at least had a semi-redemptive death if memory serves me correctly.[/quote'] One of my favorites. It made me a Porcupine fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneDaddy Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas To be fair' date=' he at least had a semi-redemptive death if memory serves me correctly.[/quote'] I hate to speak undeservedly ill of the dead - what carried him off? Oh yeah, and to prevent more random threadjacking: MADCAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas I hate to speak undeservedly ill of the dead - what carried him off? Oh yeah, and to prevent more random threadjacking: MADCAP. Captain America got him killed by using him to find the Serpent Society. In the resulting fight he was killed by a combination of Diamondback and his own ineptitude. Later on Cap honoured his memory by burying him in the plot reserved for Avengers who actually die and stay dead and dating Diamondback Incidentally the Persuader (Marvel) had a sadly shortened career. Too bad the Kingpin had him Persuade the Punisher. That never works out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas I don't know why, but I always kinda liked this... guy: the Pursuer. Maybe for the little ironies that his creator, Dough Moench, had fun with. Note the link near the bottom of the page to the Pursuer's second incarnation, Korath, one without a touch of camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balabanto Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas White Rabbit: This is a villain most people never even mention. The Black Racer: The Grim Reaper is an African American on Skis? Mr. Kirby, I love you dearly, but even the gods !@#$%W@! up sometimes. Boris and Ninotchka: A clear tribute themselves, these two made Power Man and Iron Fist's lives a living hell. Lightmaster: IF EVER there was a villain who got short shrift, it was Edward Lanksy. He was awesome. Brother Power and Sister Sun: These two asian cultists were REALLY CREEPY. They only had powers when they held hands, like Fenris, but with a little modfication, these two could be awesome. Jason Deere: Who? If his heart stops, the world blows up. No fooling. YES, this is still in canon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drhoz Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas Ha! First guy I thought of and he was the basis for my first Champions character. Did a bunch of that stuff. He was a complete wuss in his one appearance and got his butt thoroughly kicked (Spidey just told him to go home)' date=' but cool concept.[/quote'] First appearence, actually. He's back in MODOK's Eleven. "I fought Spider-man once! He won!" http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/tag/spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas White Rabbit: This is a villain most people never even mention. . DC White Rabbit or Marvel White Rabbit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balabanto Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Re: Dredging Obscurity for Villain Ideas The Answer: Spider Man never really beat this villain, and then one day, he disappeared, never to be seen again. He was a deadly, obnoxious, ruthless foe who always had a backup plan. We were never even really sure what his powers were. The Disruptor: You can only run this plot once. The Disruptor attacks the campaign of Mayoral Candidate X, with his massive, seemingly unstoppable Brick ally, the Smasher. He seems totally focussed on killing Mayoral Candidate X. The catch: The Disruptor IS Mayoral Candidate X, and is trying to get elected by having an angry fake crimelord continually attacking him while he's tough on crime. At the end of this classic Spider Man story, it was revealed that the Smasher was Mayoral Candidate X's son, and he died tragically. It was a brilliant effort. We don't GET a lot of good stories like that anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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