Basic204 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I wanted to know if there is a book champion book that gives superheros like the villains books ? for 6th ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Not that I am aware of. Champions: the Super Roleplaying Game - Champions.186 - 203 Defender Ironclad Kinetik Saphire Witchcraft Champions Universe. 162 - 186 Defender Ironclad Kinetik Saphire Witchcraft The All-American Black Mask X Dr. Silverback Silver Avenger Mayte Sanchez Victory UNTIL Agent (Urban) Cheers QM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 none that are just heroes To Protect and Serve had 1 villain who compromised a super hero team and mind controlled them most of the characters where heroes If you are looking for heroes I and others have posted characters here in the forums and in the download areayou could also go to Hero Central and go to the characters drop down for any game and see the heroes that are being played there on HC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper-Man Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Yeah. most of the published stuff is by design NPC's. Other than the Champions themselves your best bet for Hero groups is fan created content which there is very little of for 6e compared to what has been done for 5e. If you have hero designer there is quite a bit aviable here - http://www.herogames.com/forums/files/category/3-characters/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic204 Posted August 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Will they make a book for heroes ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Just heroes probably not no need for it plenty are easily gotten for free here and other places on the interwebs http://www.asterick.com/realschluss/ http://www.killershrike.com/CharacterMaster/CharacterGenreList.aspx http://home.comcast.net/~mathewignash/champions.html http://www.sysabend.org/champions/gnborh/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 The only difference between a hero and a villain is what you do with it in your game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba smith Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 true enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Hero Games reps have posted on more than one occasion that NPC hero compilations sell less than villain or other types of books. I imagine most players want their own PC heroes to be the stars of the show. So the chances of getting an official one in the foreseeable future are slim to none. The closest thing to a superheroes collection for Champions 6E would be the latest edition of Champions Universe, which outlines the entire setting in broad strokes. That book includes full character write-ups for more experienced (i.e. higher CP total) versions of the five members of the Champions, as well as solo heroes, the All-American, Black Mask, Dr. Silverback, Victory, Silver Avenger Mayte Sanchez of PRIMUS, and a sample UNTIL agent. For 5E, the book Champions Universe: News Of The World wrote up the lineups for two famous CU hero teams, the Sentinels and the Justice Squadron, plus a solo hero called the Messenger -- thirteen in all. Champions Of The North gives us eight Canadian heroes, as well as Canadian villains. Champions Worldwide details heroes and villains from around the world outside the United States and Canada. In all, twenty-eight heroes are written up. UNTIL: Defenders Of Freedom provides six members of UNTIL's official superhero team, UNITY. Character sheets for a few other heroes are scattered among various 5E books, which also briefly mention many more. For Champions Fourth Edition, Hero Games did publish a sizable assortment of NPC heroes in a book called Allies. It was the only one of its kind, and none of them were updated for later editions, or AFAIK are part of the current official CU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Michael Felt Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 I can only comment on the heroes in Champions: The Live-Action Roleplaying Game as it is the book on the shelf right next to me, but the following are heroes that appear in the book with ones submitted by backers in italics. The othe heroes may be from previous works, I apologize for not knowing where they may have come from or who deserves proper credit for these awesome guys. Aurum, The Alchemist Frank Cho Mighty Mite, Dean Anderson Vanguard Gemma Suzan Demon Hunter, James Holt Ankh, Professor Celene Garfield Defender, James Harmon IV Ironclad, Drogen Lar Kinetik, Brendan Grant Sapphire, Corazon "Corrie" Valenzuela Witchcraft, Bethany Duquesne Dr. Silverback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 There's also the Algernon Files (available in the store), not put out by Hero games and not technically canon to the Champions Universe, but a great selection of both heroes and villains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Algernon Files and its sequel, Fires of War, are IMHO great books with a lot of well-thought-out heroes and villains. Just note that they're for Fifth Edition Hero (as well as Mutants and Masterminds), not Sixth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Ah, good catch, Thanks LL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Basically it is the lack of sales on Allies is the thing which makes Hero reluctant to do another book of superheros. Which is a shame. If they make a Champions Hero Volume, will anyone buy it? Will you buy it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic204 Posted August 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Me, too. But I just love to know more details about the setting. I probably wouldn't use many NPC heroes in a game I ran, since most players understandably don't want NPCs horning in on their glory. The sad part is that there are dozens more heroes mentioned in CU books than have been written up to date. If they were all given character sheets they would easily fill a substantial volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic204 Posted August 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Maybe rather then putting out whole books they create a wiki page with tons of champions hero's around the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Baker Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 I'd buy it because I'm a completionist. I may never use any of them in an actual game. Of course this comes from someone who has a copy of Allies sitting on the shelf somewhere (IIRC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper-Man Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Another complication with publishing SuperHero characters is that the most memorable ones are the one created by multiple Players instead a single GM* Aaron Allston's Strike Force sourcebook for 3rd edition Champions was fairly unique in this regard since it contained all the PC's for Aaron's Champions campaign. I'm fairly confident that permission from those players had to be obtained to include their characters in the final product. *This is part of the reason why I always enjoyed 'solo-heroes get together' team books like Justice League, Avengers and Teen Titans over 'single origin teams' like Fantastic Four, Doom Patrol or X-men. The individual characters tend to have far more depth out of the gate in the team title due to their previous history as solo heroes or at least sidekicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 To be honest, since I have no campaign at all, I have no right to buy a Champions Hero Volume. But that doesn't mean I won't buy a copy of Champions Hero Volume if I can afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Another complication with publishing SuperHero characters is that the most memorable ones are the one created by multiple Players instead a single GM* Aaron Allston's Strike Force sourcebook for 3rd edition Champions was fairly unique in this regard since it contained all the PC's for Aaron's Champions campaign. I'm fairly confident that permission from those players had to be obtained to include their characters in the final product. *This is part of the reason why I always enjoyed 'solo-heroes get together' team books like Justice League, Avengers and Teen Titans over 'single origin teams' like Fantastic Four, Doom Patrol or X-men. The individual characters tend to have far more depth out of the gate in the team title due to their previous history as solo heroes or at least sidekicks. I get the same impression from Scott Heine's To Serve and Protect adventure -- all the Protectors hero team members are based on PCs from Scott's campaign, and show that kind of depth. Likewise the Millennium City Eight, produced for Digital Hero via the "Name the Hero" contest. The contestants lavished much thought and care on their entries, and each winner was the best from multiple entries. OTOH collections of PC heroes tend to have a "grab-bag" vibe to them. They lack the commonalities to really feel like they belong together as a team, such as similar visuals, related powers, or unifying theme or motif. That's more a feature of teams created specifically to be a team, whether by one person or several. And that's something that I think the teams in Allies really have going for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Fourth Edition more product in this vein. Champions of the North had 3 hero teams and their villains. Kingdom of Champions featured 2 hero teams and several solo heroes also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic204 Posted August 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Hmmm if they will not put out a book then I guess I can make a forum thread and we can fill it with heroes people put in there games in the background Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Do a search on the forums for character threads. A lot of people started their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 A list of my hero characters that you can search for. 1) John "Sunburn" Roberts. 2) Paradox Timely. 3) Lady Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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