Lord Liaden Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 The only thing Trump brings to the table is election denial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: The only thing Trump brings to the table is election denial. Trump brings the inconoclastic, rebellious attitude, a presence, and a following. Granted: on policy he brings nothing, but he didn't have anything in '16 either. Lake brings absolutely nothing but election denial, as far as I can tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 In principle, yes, but if you listen to Trump's stump speeches (and I can completely excuse you if you can't bring yourself to), the "stolen election" is almost the only thing he ever talks about any more. His own followers are getting bored with him; his rally crowds are seriously dwindling, and many of them leave halfway through his speech. His cultists loved him because he made them feel like winners, but it's getting harder to look at Trump's repeated electoral failures and see him as other than a loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 9 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: ... but it's getting harder to look at Trump's repeated electoral failures and see him as other than a loser. In my opinion, it's hard to look at Trump in any respect and see him as other than a loser. But that's just my opinion. Take it for what you will. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, BoloOfEarth said: In my opinion, it's hard to look at Trump in any respect and see him as other than a loser. But that's just my opinion. Take it for what you will. So. Much. Losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 MAGA cultists have demonstrated a nearly limitless capacity to deny reality. Nearly. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNakagawa Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 it's hard to take any Trump supporter seriously. If they can fall for that con, what else are they capable of falling for? If they didn't fall for the con and actually support him and his 'brand', then it's even worse... Cygnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 43 minutes ago, BNakagawa said: it's hard to take any Trump supporter seriously. If they can fall for that con, what else are they capable of falling for? I direct you to my signature. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-ngo-antifascist/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 Oath Keepers founder convicted of sedition. https://apnews.com/article/oath-keepers-founder-guilty-of-seditious-conspiracy-42affe1614425c6820f7cbe8fd18ba96 Lord Liaden, Hermit and Old Man 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 America needs a lot more convictions like this. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Sometimes being blindsided....really isn't all that bad. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/29/senate-same-sex-marriage-protections-00071141 Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sociotard Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 The head of the DOE, Sam Brinton, is arrested for stealing luggage. Infuriating. I was the one defending them for being very qualified and their being non-binary not meaning anything. Neither of those things have changed, but now I do regret standing up for them. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, Sociotard said: The head of the DOE, Sam Brinton, is arrested for stealing luggage. Infuriating. I was the one defending them for being very qualified and their being non-binary not meaning anything. Neither of those things have changed, but now I do regret standing up for them. That's inaccurate. Sam Brinton was "the deputy assistant secretary for spent fuel and waste disposition at the Department of Energy’s Office of Nuclear Energy." https://nypost.com/2022/11/29/biden-official-sam-brinton-used-allegedly-stolen-suitcase-for-a-month/ Still a government official who committed an illegal act, but far less senior. Brinton has been charged with felony theft of a moveable property without consent, and was placed on leave last month after allegations surfaced, and an interim replacement named. If convicted they (Brinton uses non-gender pronouns) could face up to five years in prison and/or up to a $10,000 fine. Sociotard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: America needs a lot more convictions like this. Oh, we're ACHING for it. Now if they'd just do Trump next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 31 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: That's inaccurate. Sam Brinton was "the deputy assistant secretary for spent fuel and waste disposition at the Department of Energy’s Office of Nuclear Energy." https://nypost.com/2022/11/29/biden-official-sam-brinton-used-allegedly-stolen-suitcase-for-a-month/ Still a government official who committed an illegal act, but far less senior. True, but still VERY high. Secretary Under Secretary for Science and Innovation Assistant Secretary for Nuclear Energy. then deputy assistant secretary Assistant Secretary is a position that requires Senate confirmation. Deputy doesn't, but it is a Senior Executive Service position. For age 34...that's doing exceptionally well. Now? <WHOOSH> Straight down the tubes. This has to be a position requiring a TS clearance, and forget that with a felony conviction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 7 hours ago, Hermit said: Oh, we're ACHING for it. Now if they'd just do Trump next. Assuming they’re working their way up the ladder, I’d assume there’s quite a few rungs to go before we see Trump facing a jury. I’d also assume they’ll need to do something concrete before the 2024 electioneering starts getting serious. Hermit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Tom said: Assuming they’re working their way up the ladder, I’d assume there’s quite a few rungs to go before we see Trump facing a jury. I’d also assume they’ll need to do something concrete before the 2024 electioneering starts getting serious. I still get into arguments with people who think Jan 6th was 'a bunch of old men wandering around capitol hill'. The damage people like Crowder and Tucker have done to this country cannot be underestimated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 13 hours ago, unclevlad said: True, but still VERY high. Secretary Under Secretary for Science and Innovation Assistant Secretary for Nuclear Energy. then deputy assistant secretary Assistant Secretary is a position that requires Senate confirmation. Deputy doesn't, but it is a Senior Executive Service position. For age 34...that's doing exceptionally well. Now? <WHOOSH> Straight down the tubes. This has to be a position requiring a TS clearance, and forget that with a felony conviction. Yes, but that isn't what you wrote. I looked it up specifically because "head of the DOE" in this situation would have had huge repercussions. Please keep in mind that inaccuracies like that are how destructive rumors get started. EDIT: Unclevlad pointed out to me that he did not make the original post. My apologies to him and the community for my carelessness. Cygnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 I didn't post the original mistake, LL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Okay, I apologize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asperion Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 On 11/29/2022 at 10:00 AM, BoloOfEarth said: In my opinion, it's hard to look at Trump in any respect and see him as other than a loser. But that's just my opinion. Take it for what you will. What I'm expecting is a repeat of 2016. The common electorate will grant him something between 10-20% of the vote. Then the powers behind the scenes will come in and determine that we did not know what we were doing and recast the election, giving him over 50%, WAY more than is needed to claim the nomination. (I was surprised that this didn't happen in 2020.) TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 No offense to toddlers. Editorial: Congress needs some toddler-proofing before the GOP House majority takes power unclevlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 3 hours ago, unclevlad said: I didn't post the original mistake, LL. My error. I apologize, and will edit the offending post. 😔 3 hours ago, Sociotard said: Okay, I apologize No need. Just please keep this in mind for future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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