Tjack

For reference material you may want to check out how the “Cape Killers” from Marvel Comics Civil War were used. They were the armored squads S.H.I.E.L.D. sent out after rogue paranormals.  Heroes & Villains alike.

If there’s a cafe in there, I’ll never get out......no matter how many security guys they have.

   I think Ian McKellen might prefer the young guy who played Christian Gray.😈

   Jamie Reyes’ science class is on a field trip to New York (and from DC to Marvel) to see a selection of meteors collected by NASA.  One of the samples contains a bio-technical organism that reacts to the Blue Beetle armor and tries to upload its own programming to select a planet for colonization for its creators. The conflicting commands cause the armor to mutate into a 10 foot tall battle machine.
   Peter Parker is at the facility to take pictures of the many school’s participants for the Daily Bugle when chaos erupts.

Spider-Man’s experience with foes of this kind let him move the battle outside the school grounds towards Central Park. During the fight Jamie regains enough control to speak to Spider-Man and together they come up with the idea of purging the memory system with a powerful electrical charge. 
    Peter finds a Con-Ed truck abandoned due to the fighting and uses the cables inside to tap into the N.Y.C. power grid shocking the out of control Beetle and letting its core memory reboot leaving Jamie in charge once more.

Its kind of a Marvel Team-Up kind of thing but at least its quick.

  Let’s see, how about...Dr Destroyer (Champions) vs. Dr Doom (Marvel)

1 hour ago, mattingly said:

What are those things at the end of his legs?

 

I've never seen Liefeld draw any such thing.

 

  

 

 

   Why I mentioned them in my post, is that Robby-boy has said in past interviews that he can’t draw feet. (among other things)

10 minutes ago, Starlord said:

 

Since you brought it up....

   One of the reasons I harp on that 501 commercial is that when he’s asked if he went to art school he grins like an idiot and says, “Nope, just talent.”    Except when you can see from things like this that he has none and could have really used some instruction on things like anatomy and perspective.  
   And most of his “original” characters like Deadpool and Domino are thinly disguised ripoffs of characters like Wolverine and Longshot.

   I don’t begrudge somebody being a hack, even a well payed one. But cocky about it I can do without.

1 hour ago, Logan.1179 said:

       Grandparents my a$$.  I stood in line to see Star Wars in 1977.  And then I got back in line to see it again!

1 hour ago, batguy said:

Yeah,you are right about that.

    I don’t think you ever mentioned what brought on the question in the first place?  Was it just a vague curiosity, did you want to run that kind of game someday or what?

  Robert A. Heinlein’s book Farnham’s Freehold is a very good manual for what might be needed or valuable in a post apocalyptic world.  The first half of the book anyway.  It soon digressed into a weird racial lesson on what’s going to happen to White folks if they don’t make things right with Black America....and damn soon.
 Some have said that this was the book he was working on when his brain tumor symptoms became severe.   Either way the beginning of the book is worth a good read before it gets pulled from the library shelves for saying that America isn’t as free and equal as it should be.

    The 1632 series is also very good at the rebuilding stuff as it’s about an entire modern (late 1980’s) town in West Virginia including people being transported to Germany in 1632.  Kind of like Connecticut Yankee times several hundred plus working firearms.
  Wonderful historical research and the whole “How did this happen” is never explained or part of the story.   So things can stay focused on the townsfolk and their effect on the world instead of becoming this big sci-fi thing.

Imaging how bad the female version would be.  Each breast larger than the head. Legs 1.5 longer and 1.5 thinner than they should be and no visible feet.  Forget him and the stupid 501 jeans he rode in wearing.   

  (Does anybody else remember that dumb-a$$ Levi’s commercial he did?)

    (I just checked, it’s on YouTube)

If the GPS in your VW Quantum has the voice of Dean Stockwell telling you where to go would that make it a Quantum Leap?

8 hours ago, Pariah said:

So I've been looking at used cars for the past couple of weeks. 

 

I found a listing for a Volkswagen Quantum at a good price, but the reviews are all terrible. 

 

They say the GPS stops working if you look at the speedometer.

On 4/14/2022 at 11:13 AM, Cygnia said:

I've mentioned how much of a [BLEEP] Van Morrison is the one time I had the misfortune of meeting him...

     Probably, I once met Harlan Ellison and he was just as much of an insulting, demeaning a-hole as he was often reported to be.   After a while I realized it didn’t matter as long as I enjoyed the art, I could try to ignore the artist.  This does not always work. *coughCosbycough*

   I just want to see the miniature miniatures.

6 minutes ago, steriaca said:

I actually loved the story. Prehaps the distasteful thing people hated was Spidey's inner thoughts about how normal Muslims would or would not forgive us for our reactions to Muslim terrorists. 

 

Anyways, each there own.

   I also thought the story was fine, although there was some whining from fans over things like Dr. Doom weeping at the destruction. 

13 hours ago, steriaca said:

Don't forget, there WAS a Amazing Spiderman comic which delt with 9-11. He was there pulling people from the rubble. Even Kingpin used his mafia might to make cleanup and rescue easier for the first responders.

  I remember that book. Written by J.M. Strazcinski and drawn by John Romita jr.  It had a solid black cover and it featured all the Marvel characters native to Manhattan.   And they took some flack from people who said it was in bad taste.

 I once saw the BBB on the Trove.  Full resolution, color, the whole 9 yds.  That site is dead now but that file must be kicking around somewhere.  If we got a copy of that for free wouldn’t that just be returning stolen property?  And a lot cheaper?

....and the father says....The Aristocrats!

    The first time most of America heard it was when he did it on the Comedy Central Roast of Hugh Hefner.
        So it counts.    But if you want to be a stickler for the rules.....

       AFLAC!!!!

7 hours ago, tkdguy said:

We need to write these guys up!

 

 

    There have been more than enough comic book movies made by people with no respect for the genre.

If any of these characters ended up in some Champions sourcebook I believe that they would have better filled in backstories and explanations of their powers.

Never ascribe to technology what can be easily explained by stupidity.

1 hour ago, Logan.1179 said:

11 minutes ago, tombrown803 said:

But, Tjack, everybody on this site is crazy, we're gamers!

No, no, the difference is that we’re “fun” crazy.  Out there is “CRAZY” crazy.  I made a vaguely humorous comment on YouTube one time that while I loved the music and imagery of Van Morrison when you read his lyrics they never make any literal sense.  What does the “You can’t stop us on the road to freedom” part have do do with how sweet your girlfriend is?  (Read the lyrics to Tupelo Honey sometime)

   You would have thought I had attacked the Holy frickin’ Bible!  “THIS IS POETRY!!”  YOU’RE JUST TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND POETRY!!”  “VAN MORRISON IS A GREAT AMERICAN POET!!”   It got worse when I pointed out that he’s wasn’t American, he’s Irish.

     Beware my warning my friends, don’t mess with the internet crazies.

26 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said:

 

Short answer: IMO yes, it would be in bad taste. We've discussed different ways you might use the Red Doom characters, but what you keep repeating sounds like you want to specifically connect them to the war in Ukraine in some way. I've outlined why my opinion is, that would be a very questionable move.

 

Now, let me take your example, and look at it from the other side: let's say that shortly after the fall of the Twin Towers, you ran scenarios in which heroes kept that disaster from happening altogether. Nobody lost their lives, the old World Trade Center is still standing. How would that respect all the families and friends who lost loved ones on that day? But then you have the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, all the people who died in those conflicts, the way the world changed, the way America changed. Remember how everyone felt going through all that. None of that could have been predicted in the days and weeks immediately after 9/11.

 

The war in Ukraine is ongoing. The outcome can't yet be foreseen. But the suffering is real. My advice is, use Red Doom with caution if you wish, but leave current events alone.

 

(BTW Steve Long was once asked in a chat about 9/11 in the official Champions Universe. His response was that for editorial purposes he considered it to still have occurred, but due to intervention by superheroes the deaths were far fewer. Same with New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina.)

  I remember watching the news during 9-11 and in the back of my head in the place where a small child’s voice says “make it not happen” was the image of the team I was GM’ing who were based in New York would have stopped this or dealt with the aftermath.  I know that’s not really sane or rational but hell, who was right then?
  Maybe I’m just beating on this gong so hard because it was so hard to get the conversation off of a discussion of write-ups & origins and onto the idea of “when does a game following the real world become a bad thing?”

   I may just lay off responding for a while and just see what everyone else has to say.

4 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said:

Like bashing Nazis to help remember their evil, it never hurt to stomp on some commies to remember theirs as well.

     I’ve said here often that my #1 rule of GM’ing is “Everybody loves hitting Nazi’s”. 
  My idea in all this was;  Is using a group like Red Doom in bad taste for taking real tragedy as fuel for for something foolish.
   If one of the major comic companies in the days right after 9-11 created a hero empowered by the souls lost and never recovered under the Twin Towers, they would have been crucified by the fans and the media alike.

59 minutes ago, unclevlad said:

 

Oh, so you're ok with trying to poison the dog, now???

   No, that’s why I said “try to eat”.  Please don’t accuse me of this, now. This is the kind of thing the internet crazies get a hold of and never let go. 😇

29 minutes ago, unclevlad said:

 

From the story:

Now, let's be fair;  the candy iconography is pagan, not Christian.  It's spring, it's fertility and growth and new life.  But the writer's otherwise spot on.

 

Calling Easter's offerings "candy" is a GROSS mischaracterization.  It's gunky, gooey, and uniformly AWFUL junk.  It's worse than most Valentine's candy...which can be just fine, thank you, but the average supermarket boxed assortment is just plain BAD.  ALL the major candy holidays have that...chocolate Santas at Christmas are the same as the chocolate bunnies at Easter, waxy, godawful aftertaste...BLEAH!!!

 

But the others all have redeeming aspects.  Plenty of decent, if everyday, stuff for Halloween;  high end chocs come out at Christmas and Valentine's.  Easter has nothing above abysmal.  

 

I'm talking myself to commit an act of defiance...a bag of Sprouts' dark chocolate coated almonds...sweetened with stevia.  (Almost no sugar issue at all.  Calories, OTOH....)  Fighting back against bad Easter pseudo-candy!!  Who's with me????  

    I would stand with you but the thing that gets forgotten at this time of year is that Easter candy is for CHILDREN! 
Cute little buggers with no sense of taste. They actually like junk candy.  Decent quality chocolate would be wasted on them.  Besides, mostly they take one or two bites of something, squish in their fist, drop it onto the carpet for the dog to try and eat and move on to the next brightly wrapped piece of inedible drek.

    Anyone thinking about wasting hand-dipped caramels on a three year old deserves the frustration they feel.

 Put them to bed after their sugar comas and then break out the good stuff. 

Just now, Pariah said:

 

When students ask how old I am, I tell that that my Social Security number is in Roman numerals.

  I hear you, I’m so old my social security number is 12.