nexus Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 As I understand, a few individuals have had a chance to pick up 6th ed at Gencon and have net access. So to them a I pose a question and would be very grateful for an answer. Are there any totally new Powers (aside from those that have been spoiled) in the corebooks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephrosyne Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? I'm rather curious about this one myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Waters Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? I was going to say that I was bi-curious about it, but that wouldn't make sense as I missed the second post. So I'm tri-curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourtFool Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? I was going to say that I was bi-curious about it' date=' but that wouldn't make sense as I missed the second post.[/quote'] You can still be bi-curious with me, big boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjcurrie Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? New Powers: Barrier -- expansion of the Force Wall power that can create real walls Damage Negation -- reduces DCs of damage Deflection -- lets you block ranged attacks at range Reflection -- reflects attacks back at firer or other target Regeneration -- recovers BODY faster - cost based on how often you regenerate a BODY point Resistant Protection -- replaces Force Field and Armor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vondy Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? new powers: Damage negation -- reduces dcs of damage regeneration -- recovers body faster - cost based on how often you regenerate a body point yeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexus Posted August 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? New Powers: Barrier -- expansion of the Force Wall power that can create real walls Damage Negation -- reduces DCs of damage Deflection -- lets you block ranged attacks at range Reflection -- reflects attacks back at firer or other target Regeneration -- recovers BODY faster - cost based on how often you regenerate a BODY point Resistant Protection -- replaces Force Field and Armor Thanks, much obliged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Waters Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? You can still be bi-curious with me' date=' big boy. [/quote'] Now I'm wondering how far I can take this without it getting weird. That would have been post 3... Sean 'Hepta-curious' Waters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestidigitator Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? yeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw!!!! Seconded! Regeneration baby!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamePhil Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? New Powers: Barrier -- expansion of the Force Wall power that can create real walls Damage Negation -- reduces DCs of damage Deflection -- lets you block ranged attacks at range Reflection -- reflects attacks back at firer or other target Regeneration -- recovers BODY faster - cost based on how often you regenerate a BODY point Resistant Protection -- replaces Force Field and Armor Well, really, that's two: Barrier and Damage Negation, and both were mentioned already. A lot of things are refurbished, in my opinion quite well, but none of these are "totally new" and not "spoiled", since they existed in prior editions. Barrier could also be argued to be Force Wall revamped, too, but it's so very different. Or is that too picky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? damage negation is the only one listed here that looks new I see regeneration made it back from being dropped from 5th with new toys possible all the rest are tweaks of what was not saying that those where bad ideas but from the looks of your list there is only 1 new power 1 retuning power with tweaks and then tweaking of old powers what are the costs of all the stats I figure that DEX CON BODY EGO would have changed to ,what I'd like to know? OCV,DCV,MOCV,MDCV what are the costs of these? New Powers: Barrier -- expansion of the Force Wall power that can create real walls Damage Negation -- reduces DCs of damage Deflection -- lets you block ranged attacks at range Reflection -- reflects attacks back at firer or other target Regeneration -- recovers BODY faster - cost based on how often you regenerate a BODY point Resistant Protection -- replaces Force Field and Armor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? too late thought that of you looooooong ago before this this thread:thumbup: Now I'm wondering how far I can take this without it getting weird. That would have been post 3... Sean 'Hepta-curious' Waters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamePhil Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? damage negation is the only one listed here that looks new I see regeneration made it back from being dropped from 5th with new toys possible all the rest are tweaks of what was not saying that those where bad ideas but from the looks of your list there is only 1 new power 1 retuning power with tweaks and then tweaking of old powers Well, to be fair, everything Rod mentioned works quite differently from how it has worked in Hero before, so he's not actually in error from that point of view. Deflection, for instance, makes you able to use Block at range, little like how it worked previously. Reflection is similar to its original (Champions II, I think) conception, though. Edit: Which is to say, rj's response is probably exactly the kind of thing nexus was asking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vondy Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? Or is that too picky? Mildly pedantic, but accurate. They're new implementations of old constructs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasha Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? Str 1, Dex 2, Con 1, Int 1, Ego 1, Pre 1 OCV 5, DCV 5, OMCV 3, DMCV 3, SPD 10 PD 1, ED 1, REC 1, End .2 (ie 5 End = 1pt), BODY 1, Stun 1 I think that the only reason that Dex is 2pts each is because it determines who goes first in a Segment. With END being so cheap, many Characters that are using END Reserves can now afford to use normal end. What I really want to know is the recommended point level for a "Standard Superhero game" ie base points and max Disads Also the same for the teir above Standard Superheros. Tasha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasha Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? Yep end 5:1 Stun is 2:1 and perhaps I will gain some reading comprehension someday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? thanks Tasha with Dex now 2 did they remove lightning reflexes or tweak it down as dex that has no skill roll end reserve is still handy as it does not get zeroed if you get knocked out unless that changed Str 1, Dex 2, Con 1, Int 1, Ego 1, Pre 1 OCV 5, DCV 5, OMCV 3, DMCV 3, SPD 10 PD 1, ED 1, REC 1, End .2 (ie 5 End = 1pt), BODY 1, Stun 1 I think that the only reason that Dex is 2pts each is because it determines who goes first in a Segment. With END being so cheap, many Characters that are using END Reserves can now afford to use normal end. What I really want to know is the recommended point level for a "Standard Superhero game" ie base points and max Disads Also the same for the teir above Standard Superheros. Tasha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCUBA Hero Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? Damage Negation -- reduces DCs of damageBrilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? Rod could have listed them as major tweaks of exiting powers or taking the place of existing power(Barrier taking the place of Force Wall) the devil is in the details from what has been posted about Barrier I'd say it would be Force Wall with the adding of body in what you can buy to define the power Damage negation looks(this is the first I have heard of it and it's effect)to be a new way of avoiding damage I suspect it would be akin to a suppress power at range trigger effect is Regeneration the old regen with tweaks to get it to work faster or slower than post 12(well you could always have gotten it to work slower than post 12 just not faster) Well, to be fair, everything Rod mentioned works quite differently from how it has worked in Hero before, so he's not actually in error from that point of view. Deflection, for instance, makes you able to use Block at range, little like how it worked previously. Reflection is similar to its original (Champions II, I think) conception, though. Edit: Which is to say, rj's response is probably exactly the kind of thing nexus was asking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasha Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? That's END' date=' you said Stun was 1:1 when I thought it was 2:1. But I only have the "volunteer" document, things might have changed.[/quote'] Indeed stun is 2:1 Tasha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjcurrie Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? What I really want to know is the recommended point level for a "Standard Superhero game" ie base points and max Disads Also the same for the teir above Standard Superheros. Tasha Standard Superheroes are 400 Points with 75 Points in Matching Complications (or to use 5e terminology 325 + 75) with a maximum of 40 points of one type of Complication. High-Powered Superheroes 500 Points with 75 Points in Matching Complications (425 + 75) with a max. of 40 points of one type of Complication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexus Posted August 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? Standard Superheroes are 400 Points with 75 Points in Matching Complications (or to use 5e terminology 325 + 75) with a maximum of 40 points of one type of Complication. High-Powered Superheroes 500 Points with 75 Points in Matching Complications (425 + 75) with a max. of 40 points of one type of Complication. Why the terminology Matching Complications? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjcurrie Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? Rod could have listed them as major tweaks of exiting powers or taking the place of existing power(Barrier taking the place of Force Wall) the devil is in the details from what has been posted about Barrier I'd say it would be Force Wall with the adding of body in what you can buy to define the power Damage negation looks(this is the first I have heard of it and it's effect)to be a new way of avoiding damage I suspect it would be akin to a suppress power at range trigger effect is Regeneration the old regen with tweaks to get it to work faster or slower than post 12(well you could always have gotten it to work slower than post 12 just not faster) Yes, I could have, but since they have new names, I treated it as, for example, removing Force Wall, and adding Barrier. Damage Negation is bought as Physical, Energy, or Mental and can be limited further by Limitations. Each "level" of Damage Negations removes a Damage Class from an attacking Power. So for example "Damage Negation (-6 DCs Physical), Only against Bullets" reduces a 2d6 + 1 RKA defined as a gun to a one-pip RKA. Regeneration is 2 points per 1 BODY per 1 Week, 4 points per 1 BODY per Day, ... 16 points per 1 BODY per Turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? Damage Negation is bought as Physical or Energy and can be limited further by Limitations. Each "level" of Damage Negations removes a Damage Class from an attacking Power. So for example "Damage Negation (-6 DCs Physical)' date=' Only against Bullets" reduces a 2d6 + 1 RKA defined as a gun to a one-pip RKA.[/quote'] Does Damage Negation work like FRED's Damage Reduction and occur after taking off for regular PD/ED? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjcurrie Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Re: 6th Edition Question: New Powers? Does Damage Negation work like FRED's Damage Reduction and occur after taking off for regular PD/ED? It's before taking off PD/ED - in fact, it occurs before rolling the dice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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