Cygnia Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Sad thing is, it's not a lack of smarts -- it's a lack of heart and compassion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 This is [bLEEP]ed up... Witnesses to New Jersey Shooting Say Police Failed to Stop Fellow Officer From Firing at Wife A Neptune Township, New Jersey police officer named Phillip Seidle allegedly shot and killed his estranged wife in the presence of their seven-year-old daughter on Wednesday—and reports say that other law enforcement agents on the scene took no action to stop Seidle from firing shots at the victim in their presence, with some officers even hugging and comforting him when he surrendered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 La Rose. Ragitsu and massey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Let me guess, she was armed and dangerous. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted June 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 La Rose. Nice piece of journalism. The one part I disagree with is the claim that these cops aren't bad people. Sure, part of why this horrible behavior arises and gets excused is because of nature of the system that encourages the ultimate expression of "my way or the highway", but... the system also attracts the kind of person that wants to use authority not as a carefully applied tool to preserve and maintain peace, but as a billy club to assert their own (oftentimes fragile) ego upon anyone they can use it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted June 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 This is [bLEEP]ed up... Witnesses to New Jersey Shooting Say Police Failed to Stop Fellow Officer From Firing at Wife Bad apples! Bad apples! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 I came across this gem of a story a bit ago: LA cops raid a pot dispencery, Jack the cameras, proceed to eat the products and play around while making offensive jokes. So, where in the police manual does it say "jack the cameras after clearing out everyone in a raid"? And what are the chances that any video they did get was destroyed minus the camera they left up? Every single one of those cops should be fired, arrested, and thrown in jail. La Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vurbal Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 I came across this gem of a story a bit ago: LA cops raid a pot dispencery, Jack the cameras, proceed to eat the products and play around while making offensive jokes. So, where in the police manual does it say "jack the cameras after clearing out everyone in a raid"? And what are the chances that any video they did get was destroyed minus the camera they left up? Every single one of those cops should be fired, arrested, and thrown in jail. La Rose. Actually, it's worse than that. They were apparently only there to deliver a couple citations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Actually, it's worse than that. They were apparently only there to deliver a couple citations. Indeed. Going in with a hit squad over a failure to have / maintain a business license is ridiculous. They only did that there because it was a pot joint and they really needed everyone out before they could start stealing the pot and jerking around while on the clock. La Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vurbal Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Indeed. Going in with a hit squad over a failure to have / maintain a business license is ridiculous. They only did that there because it was a pot joint and they really needed everyone out before they could start stealing the pot and jerking around while on the clock. La Rose. Exactly. The rationalization for busting down doors instead of knocking (or just walking through the door in a public place), is pretty much always preservation of evidence, with the occasional officer safety BS thrown in. In this case, there was no evidence involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 When life hands you lemons . . . make lemonade? Just hope that she's not being taken advantage of. Well-filled bikini may be slightly NSFW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted June 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 When life hands you lemons . . . make lemonade? Just hope that she's not being taken advantage of. Well-filled bikini may be slightly NSFW. What about bad apples? Can one still make vinegar out of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I came across this gem of a story a bit ago: LA cops raid a pot dispencery, Jack the cameras, proceed to eat the products and play around while making offensive jokes. So, where in the police manual does it say "jack the cameras after clearing out everyone in a raid"? And what are the chances that any video they did get was destroyed minus the camera they left up? Every single one of those cops should be fired, arrested, and thrown in jail. La Rose. YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2015/06/18/22414558/seattle-gangs-unite-to-march-downtown-tomorrow-unitedhoodmarchseattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 https://news.vice.com/article/unarmed-man-shot-by-lapd-officers-for-allegedly-raising-arm-wrapped-in-towel?utm_source=vicenewsfb La Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2015/06/18/22414558/seattle-gangs-unite-to-march-downtown-tomorrow-unitedhoodmarchseattle Well, easy for the Gang unit to get video footage of gang members... Sorry, I have almost no sympathy for gang members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Me either. I was posting it for the irony. I was actually eating at the time, so didn't type in any commentary and forgot to do it later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Me either. I was posting it for the irony. I was actually eating at the time, so didn't type in any commentary and forgot to do it later. I didn't mean to snark at you, just about the march, and the Stranger almost gushing about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Yeah, I figured. gewing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 (I'm sorry, the choke hold slaying of a man in NYC should have put a certain cop in jail imo) There was an interesting NPR piece back when this was happening when one of the correspondents sat down with her friend, who was a female police officer, to watch the tape of that incident. To the correspondent it was painfully obvious that the cop there was choking an innocent man to death, but to the female police officer it was clear that the victim was resisting arrest. And they were watching the same video at the same time. Not that I think it excuses the cop, but it was an interesting thing to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted June 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 There was an interesting NPR piece back when this was happening when one of the correspondents sat down with her friend, who was a female police officer, to watch the tape of that incident. To the correspondent it was painfully obvious that the cop there was choking an innocent man to death, but to the female police officer it was clear that the victim was resisting arrest. And they were watching the same video at the same time. Not that I think it excuses the cop, but it was an interesting thing to consider. It is a combination of the "right" mentality in applicants plus the training process. Has to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 It is a combination of the "right" mentality in applicants plus the training process. Has to be. Both saw what they expected to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 And one is trained to kill without hesitation when they damnwell feel like it. The other is trained to write. Ragitsu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 And one is trained to kill without hesitation when they damnwell feel like it. The other is trained to write. A rash assumption on both parts. Though admittedly, a police officer spends a lot of time learning how to properly fill out reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Though admittedly, a police officer spends a lot of time learning how to properly fill out reports. Which does make them the polar opposite of a reporter. gewing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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