Cancer Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, Michael Hopcroft said: ... Coaches influence the development of their players, not just in their skill at football but also in their morality. That's their jobs. Bless your heart! Never mind, I'll just go straight for the Iuz the Evil and Grailknight 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 College football season starts tonight with four games, including Hawaii at Colorado State. I think that's going to be a fun game. Go Rams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 I'm ready. Let's do this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 And while Meyer can't be blamed for anything outside football, OSU has another ongoing scandal, IIRC. With all the recent issues, too, there's no way a head coach can claim "I did nothing wrong." The head coach is responsible. PERIOD. And the apology, 2 days after the toxic waste dump fire of a press conference? Talked to your lawyers and agent, eh, Urban? They whupped your backside to do this? Yeah, well, I believe I'll boycott every OSU telecast possible...in every sport. Because the institution's officers utterly failed, and showed their avarice and moral turpitude. The NCAA is more corrupt, in its way, than the IOC and FIFA combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 hour ago, unclevlad said: The NCAA is more corrupt, in its way, than the IOC and FIFA combined. Dramatic statement. Really? Than the IOC? FIFA? Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 23 minutes ago, Iuz the Evil said: Dramatic statement. Really? Than the IOC? FIFA? Wow. In their way, yes. More fundamentally wedded to the money. The bribery is not even under the table...it's the TV contracts, the mega sponsorships. It's hundreds of institutions. It's the hypocrisy of coaches paid millions while the athletes get dog spit. The major protection of athletes that make money...think Jameis Winston. The degree to which a cover-up is allowed. The fundamental pose of the "student athlete"...which is true quite often but is also a total farce quite often. (Think all the one and dones in college basketball. Did Ben Simmons attend 10 classes in his spring semester?) Yes, more corrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 The whole situation kind of reminds me of the scandal at University of Colorado several years ago, when several football players were accused of sexually assaulting female students, the one female player in the team reported that she had been raped by a teammate, and the football program was accused of using an escort service to recruit players. Gary Barnett survived all of that with his job intact. Of course, a couple of months later, they fired Barnett after Colorado lost the Big 12 championship game to Texas 70-3. Maybe a big loss in the Big Ten championship game is what it'll take to get rid of Urban Meyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 14 hours ago, unclevlad said: In their way, yes. More fundamentally wedded to the money. The bribery is not even under the table...it's the TV contracts, the mega sponsorships. It's hundreds of institutions. It's the hypocrisy of coaches paid millions while the athletes get dog spit. The major protection of athletes that make money...think Jameis Winston. The degree to which a cover-up is allowed. The fundamental pose of the "student athlete"...which is true quite often but is also a total farce quite often. (Think all the one and dones in college basketball. Did Ben Simmons attend 10 classes in his spring semester?) Yes, more corrupt. Just to be clear: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_FIFA_corruption_case Bribery, money laundering and racketeering (as an organization -not individual members) And the IOC? HBO actually did a documentary on their corruption. There's no comparison. Calling out individual institutions among the 120+ members isn't the same. College football has always had historical corruption. And fines, sanctions, penalties for corruption. And the NCAA definitively benefits from that corruption, but I'm not going to clutch my pearls about it. And comparing it to FIFA or the IOC strikes me as ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Iuz: yes, I know the incident with FIFA. The corruption in the NCAA is influence peddling. And it's systemic and tightly interwoven. No, it's not obvious. FIFA's corruption is a big fat obvious tumor; the NCAA's is a slow, spreading, creeping one. As I said...different styles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Yeah, considering the role of once and future Texas governor Bill Clements in maintaining the payola scheme at SMU in the 1980s (which ultimately got SMU the "death penalty") over the opposition of the university president (who was later forced to resign, with a hush money payment) ... different style of corruption. It isn't as big dollar-wise because the "student" athletes are cheaper so the magnitude of the individual payouts is smaller, but the pervasiveness of the corruption is about the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 There were a handful of 'Week 0' games last Saturday, including Colorado State's 43-34 loss to Hawai'i, but the college football season starts in earnest tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 This weekend is the first test of how Ohio State copes with distraction. Meyer himslef not being there will hardl be noticeable, and the buckeyes will almost certainly win over the other OSU barring a meteor strike in the stadium, but a lot of the talking heads will be watching this game -- because they expect Meyer to either quit or be fired at the end of the season and they want to know wha's next. Of course, most rational observers thought Meyer would be gone now.... The biggest interconference game on the Week 1 schedule is Washington and Auburn. Neither of these teams is headed for the playoff, probably because they play each other on Week 1 as opposed to BCS teams. but ESPN/ABC needed a marquee matchup to launch the season and this was as good as they could get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Auburn by 31. You read it here first. (It is important for the UW alum to manage expectations.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 If UW wins, they'll be a championship favorite. The schedule lines up for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 You've actually got me looking forward to Washington-Auburn now. Shame on you! I may have to alter some of my plans for the season a little bit. Normally I listen to games from the local radio feeds on TuneIn, but when I tried tonight I was forcible reminded what radio advertising is like in an election year. The ad I heard on the Purdue radio feed was so shocking that I couldn't listen to the broadcast at all after that. And if this is in Indiana, what are the ads like in Florida? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novi Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 While the Week 1 Wisconsin game is unlikely to provide any surprises (the Badgers are only a 33 point favorite), having a Friday night game while parts of the city are still flooded from last week's record-breaking rains is going to make the traffic just mind-mindbogglingly stupid in town. Thankfully I don't need to get within 2 miles of the stadium for any reason tomorrow. Also, Michael raises an awful point. Especially since Wisconsin has two competitive state-wide races this year. The incumbent governor is a Koch toady, and the incumbent senator is an openly lesbian democrat. What? After Robert La Follette AND Joe McCarthy, you thought Wisconsin was going to make sense with our choice of politicians? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 At least you didn't make a Jesse Ventura governor, so you can at least make fun of a nearby state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 LOL We're starting the season at Ohio State? Welp that will be fun for Carol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted September 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 The first college football game of the day is now on. I'm picking OSU to win! Enforcer84 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novi Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 On 8/31/2018 at 2:10 AM, Badger said: At least you didn't make a Jesse Ventura governor, so you can at least make fun of a nearby state. Come on, now. We border Illinois. You want a circus of corrupt politicians and poor governance, look no further. They almost went bankrupt a while ago, and have a couple governors in jail. Ventura is just eccentric. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Pariah said: I'm picking OSU to win! I see what you did there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 At least on this drive, Auburn's rushers and receivers are shredding the Washington defense -- until they got into the red zone and the Huskies stiffened to concede only a field goal attempt, which was missed. 9-3 Auburn right now. at least it's a better game than the lopsided "battle" between OSU and "The OSU". That one looks like it would only entertain a sadist or a masochist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Go Buckeyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 33 minutes ago, Starlord said: Go Buckeyes And take the Wolverines with you! Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novi Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Michael Hopcroft said: at least it's a better game than the lopsided "battle" between OSU and "The OSU". That one looks like it would only entertain a sadist or a masochist. Speaking of which, 77-31? Was anybody playing defense that game? That's only 108 points total, not one of those absurd 130+ point games, but it still strikes me as an odd total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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