Cancer Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 I graduated from Washington in 1978, right before the first games of the Arizona schools as Pac-10 members. At the time, AZ State football was coached by known abusive flaming a-hole Frank Kush. His team was welcomed into the conference with a 41-7 defeat by the Huskies, which pleased a bunch of folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 Yeah, I've heard of Frank Kush's antics. If I remember the COlts were desperate enough to pick him up (and if I remember they then made the ill-fated Art Schlichter draft pick) Edit: Oh and I forgot, legend has it, that Elway's decision to not play for them, may or may not have had playing for Kush factored in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 This off season is starting out very nicely. Bringing in Grinch as the new DC, which is my favorite of the available options. Very solid hire, took WSU from the #100 defense to #34 while he was there, and has been doing a good job up at Ohio State. Kish ("the Kish of death") who has overseen our abominable linebacker play, just retired. So good. I can't wait for college football to start up again. Oh well, at least there's the NFL. massey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 But, what about Clemson and Alabama? Right, I don't care either Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 46 minutes ago, Badger said: But, what about Clemson and Alabama? Right, I don't care either Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Welllllll..... Bama's defense doing a good imitation of a beaded curtain isn't that big a surprise.... But the game being fundamentally over as the 3rd winds down, that I did not see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Largest deficit for Alabama under Saban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Tua's showing he's not ready for the pros, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Absolutely delightful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Our national nightmare is over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Badger said: Our national nightmare is over Only one of them, and only temporarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, unclevlad said: Only one of them, and only temporarily. I'll take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Eh, I thought this was thoroughly depressing...i started the game with 1 juggernaut program head-and-shoulders above the rest, tonight confirmed that there 2. Laurence and Ross are true freshmen with at least 2 more years and no quality in the ACC. This is the championship game for another few years, as it has been for the last few years. Great. ? Grailknight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 They'll jump to the NFL well before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 They can't jump unless the NFL changes its rules. Three years of college minimum. As true freshmen they have two years to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 In light of last night's result, it may be time to reevaluate Notre Dame's loss last week. It's possible the Irish don't suck as much as we all thought. Maybe Clemson's just that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Pariah said: In light of last night's result, it may be time to reevaluate Notre Dame's loss last week. It's possible the Irish don't suck as much as we all thought. Maybe Clemson's just that good. No, they still suck. I agree there's little chance we won't see Clemson in the playoffs; everyone else in the ACC is fine, I think, chasing for the #2 spot. And Clemson's solidly getting top 3 recruiting classes. Dabo's not even 50, so he's probably not running out of steam any time soon. Bama has to face an SEC schedule so it's not quite a lock they'll make the playoffs, but by and large...it's pretty darn likely there's only 2 open spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 At least Clemson has to win a conference championship to get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted January 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 So the final polls have come out, and of course Clemson is number one in both. I was interested in how many G5 teams made the final polls. There were five of them. Central Florida, of course. And three teams from the Mountain West: Boise State, Fresno State, and...Utah State? Yeah, Utah State. Weird. But maybe even weirder: Army. Army has been the other two Service Academies' whipping boy for the last...oh, I don't know, three decades or so. Now they have the Commander in Chief's for the third consecutive year and finish the season ranked in the top 25. The wheel turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Pariah said: So the final polls have come out, and of course Clemson is number one in both. I was interested in how many G5 teams made the final polls. There were five of them. Central Florida, of course. And three teams from the Mountain West: Boise State, Fresno State, and...Utah State? Yeah, Utah State. Weird. But maybe even weirder: Army. Army has been the other two Service Academies' whipping boy for the last...oh, I don't know, three decades or so. Now they have the Commander in Chief's for the third consecutive year and finish the season ranked in the top 25. The wheel turns. Amry has found something modern defenses are not built to stop and carried it into respectability. How long this will last remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Well, the service academies have had some kind of wishbone/flexbone/triple option type offense for the last 20-25 years. I think the big issue for them is can they get enough of a talent level to actually want to come there. ANd the last quarter century generally suggest: only periodically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Since the service academies don't recruit for sports, whether they have enough talent to compete at D-1 is always going to be intermittent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Well now, this I did not know. The story's a year old but I daresay it'll be new for most of us: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2017/11/08/army-air-force-navy-all-now-outsourcing-athletics/820130001/ Doesn't address the point that they're not recruiting for sports talent, so there'll be much more variability as noted, but you can go a long way with very good athletes who are dedicated and disciplined. It does mean that good coaches may well stay longer, if they like the environment, because yeah, ok, they'll make more elsewhere, but seven figures is seven figures. No recruiting hassles. FAR fewer discipline hassles. Gotta figure the pressure is much lower. The military commitments add some complications, but overall...I would expect the academies to be great HC jobs. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted January 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 That's a great article. I knew they had some kind of special arrangement (which meant they could keep operating under the last government shutdown, for example), but I had no idea about the details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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