Hugh Neilson

There is a significant advantage to a "meh" property.  You can adapt them to better appeal to the audience and/or better fit the new media.  Change Superman and there is a huge outcry.  How many people have expectations of who the Eternals are and how they will act in the movie?
 
The success of G0tG proved that MCU can make successful movies with "below B-list" properties.  "Movies no one asked for"?  Who asked for Iron Man or Thor in the first place?  Really, what we now call "Phase 1" was a bunch of comic fans who believed they could bring characters they loved to the movies and make the audiences love them too.  They pulled it off.

I think they are a great example, but only of a game where Teleport, UAA is commonplace, with a single special effect.  Every game is different.  In a game set in this universe, Teleport would generally be UAA and likely no defense would be permitted to be purchased.  Unless, later in game, such a defense becomes a plot point.  Now, we might also have a very simplistic 1 Smell Flash Defense Invisible Barrier, No Range, Mobile, prevents T-Port, creating a very inexpensive Teleport blocker.  Now, Teleport UAA is part of the campaign, but PCs and notable NPCs are likely immune.  It depends on how we want UAA Teleport to work in-game.
 
 
And yet, as Christopher R. Taylor often points out, we have very generic Power Defense.  Over the years, Flash Defense got broken down into sense groups, but Sight Flash Defense still works against bright flashes, webbing covering one's eyes and tear gas (unless, of course, we build them differently, say a limited Entangle that blocks sight and tear gas as Sight Flash, AVAD - smell Flash Defense).
 
We also accept a single defense which prevents being burned, frozen, electrocuted, irradiated, etc.  Again, unless the attack is purchased differently. 
 
But clearly a single defense which prevents the target being teleported addresses an issue so common and central to most games that we have to make it more granular.  🙄
 
 
Hero at least acknowledges the issue by placing GM oversight at the forefront.  Try banning this spell, that feat or some bizarre race in D&D or Pathfinder and watch the fireworks. 
 

So...I think you are referring to my Metier magic system, and the Preciat style specifically? 

http://www.killershrike.com/FantasyHERO/HighFantasyHERO/MagicSystems/metierStyles.aspx
 
I'm going to assume the answer is yes, and proceed. Note: I'm going to refer to Side Effects as SE and Requires Skill Roll as RSR throughout to save typing.
 
A few things:
 
1) In both 5e and 6e Minor SEs (such as what the Preciat style has) are 15 AP not 30 AP...

 
2) SE paired with an RSR occur when the skill roll is failed (unless the Always Occurs modifier to SE is also applied). In the case of Preciat and other Metier Styles that take a SE that is not also Always Occurs, the RSR is the corresponding required Metier Style skill, and thus the SE only occurs if that RSR fails.
 
3) You can do a lot of things with Side Effects, not just inflict damage.
 
Personally, I like self-referential SE's which tie back to the thing that caused the SE; in the case of magic use diminishing the caster's ability to cast further magic has a nice feedback loop component. An obvious one is a temporary penalty to the Metier Style skill itself for a period of time...dialing the penalty amount and the unit of time to suit your preferences or the situation. For endurance using magic systems I liked to use a fatigue based model. I used Long Term Endurance rules generally in most of my Fantasy Hero campaigns, and piggy backed on that for magic systems that used END. But a Drain based option also works. Anyway, I describe both approaches in detail in the following document:
 
http://www.killershrike.com/FantasyHERO/HighFantasyHERO/GeneralSpellRestrictions.aspx#SideEffects
 
You could also define a cross-cutting ambient notion (such as ley lines or Darksun-like defilers, or what have you) and have SE do something like deplete the ambient magic of the local area for some period of time...you could go further and tie it into Change Environment to apply a flat penalty to something within the affected area. And so on.
 
But, there's an entire section in the SE write up talking about all the various creative things one can bend SE to do for a reason. IMO "takes damage" is the least interesting / least creative / least useful option. If you put a little thought into it, you can use SE on a magic system or individual spell type effect to dial up the flavor and feel of that particular type of magic. 
 
4) The GM is explicitly told they can adjust the impact of SE to suit their campaign.
 

 
So, if even after considering the above points and possibly settling into a version of SE that isn't just "you take a lot of no-defense damage and maybe die", you still feel like SE is to punitive for your tastes...just turn the dial a bit to ratchet it down. This is how I approach universal "toolkit" type systems, and Hero in particular...  

 
I hope some part of this response is helpful, and I'm glad to hear people are still using my Fantasy Hero material...let me know if you encounter any specific things you have questions on and I'll try to answer them.
 
 
 

You make it a universal exotic defense and everyone will buy it.  Doing so would eliminate the exotic attacks because they are now easy to stop.   Most exotic attacks are expensive and often less effective than the same number of points in basic attack.  The reason people are willing to pay the points for them is because they are difficult to defend against.   The Idea of a universal defense is a bad idea and should not be even considered.   

Id like to say "I would allow it," but I will go you one further and say that I have, and continue to do so, allowed it.
 
Ultimately, its a vehicle you always have with you.  Sounds pretty superheroey to me.
 
Yes.  There are vehicle rules.  There are also Hit Location rules and Damage Negation rules. 
 
 Nowhere in any of them is there a proclamation that they are mandatory.  Do what is the most fun for you and your group.
 
 

There is a significant advantage to a "meh" property.  You can adapt them to better appeal to the audience and/or better fit the new media.  Change Superman and there is a huge outcry.  How many people have expectations of who the Eternals are and how they will act in the movie?
 
The success of G0tG proved that MCU can make successful movies with "below B-list" properties.  "Movies no one asked for"?  Who asked for Iron Man or Thor in the first place?  Really, what we now call "Phase 1" was a bunch of comic fans who believed they could bring characters they loved to the movies and make the audiences love them too.  They pulled it off.

Captain Marvel isn't trying to realistically portray military pilots; it is very deliberately evoking the action movies of nineties including and especially Top Gun.  
 
By the end of the movie, she has regrounded herself by renewing her connection to those closest to her, has claimed her full power, has seen through the lies told to her, overcome her hatred of Skrulls and has set out to rescue the Skrull species from extermination.   That sounds like a Hero to me.

Charisma and likability are subjective.  I found her likable enough and a number of female movie critics whose reviews I read found her more likable and relatable than Wonder Woman.
 
As treating everyone except women like dirt, no.  The character that she forms the strongest bond with is Samuel Jackson's Nick Fury, who is very definitely male.  The people that she "treats like dirt" are those who try to push her around or take advantage of her.

Compare Danvers to Maverick in Top Gun. There's a lot of similarities in their arrogance and confidence. But it's okay for Maverick because he's a guy and not okay for Danvers?

I see this dynamic over and over, even in real life.  It comes up a lot in women's sports.  As just one example, people jumped all over Danica Patrick for being a cocky and self centered auto racer, even though you pretty much have to be cocky and self centered to even make it to the grid in auto racing.  And many of the people being critical were women.
 
To address another point, I don't see the MCU shifting to activism so much as shifting away from the egregious whitewashing that plagued early comics.  And it's not as though comics themselves haven't been activist since the seventies if not earlier.
 
 

There is a significant advantage to a "meh" property.  You can adapt them to better appeal to the audience and/or better fit the new media.  Change Superman and there is a huge outcry.  How many people have expectations of who the Eternals are and how they will act in the movie?
 
The success of G0tG proved that MCU can make successful movies with "below B-list" properties.  "Movies no one asked for"?  Who asked for Iron Man or Thor in the first place?  Really, what we now call "Phase 1" was a bunch of comic fans who believed they could bring characters they loved to the movies and make the audiences love them too.  They pulled it off.

I'm nothing if not original....

There is a significant advantage to a "meh" property.  You can adapt them to better appeal to the audience and/or better fit the new media.  Change Superman and there is a huge outcry.  How many people have expectations of who the Eternals are and how they will act in the movie?
 
The success of G0tG proved that MCU can make successful movies with "below B-list" properties.  "Movies no one asked for"?  Who asked for Iron Man or Thor in the first place?  Really, what we now call "Phase 1" was a bunch of comic fans who believed they could bring characters they loved to the movies and make the audiences love them too.  They pulled it off.

There is a significant advantage to a "meh" property.  You can adapt them to better appeal to the audience and/or better fit the new media.  Change Superman and there is a huge outcry.  How many people have expectations of who the Eternals are and how they will act in the movie?
 
The success of G0tG proved that MCU can make successful movies with "below B-list" properties.  "Movies no one asked for"?  Who asked for Iron Man or Thor in the first place?  Really, what we now call "Phase 1" was a bunch of comic fans who believed they could bring characters they loved to the movies and make the audiences love them too.  They pulled it off.

There is a significant advantage to a "meh" property.  You can adapt them to better appeal to the audience and/or better fit the new media.  Change Superman and there is a huge outcry.  How many people have expectations of who the Eternals are and how they will act in the movie?
 
The success of G0tG proved that MCU can make successful movies with "below B-list" properties.  "Movies no one asked for"?  Who asked for Iron Man or Thor in the first place?  Really, what we now call "Phase 1" was a bunch of comic fans who believed they could bring characters they loved to the movies and make the audiences love them too.  They pulled it off.

There is a significant advantage to a "meh" property.  You can adapt them to better appeal to the audience and/or better fit the new media.  Change Superman and there is a huge outcry.  How many people have expectations of who the Eternals are and how they will act in the movie?
 
The success of G0tG proved that MCU can make successful movies with "below B-list" properties.  "Movies no one asked for"?  Who asked for Iron Man or Thor in the first place?  Really, what we now call "Phase 1" was a bunch of comic fans who believed they could bring characters they loved to the movies and make the audiences love them too.  They pulled it off.

Or Ant-Man

Hey, nobody asked for a Guardians of the Galaxy movie, either.

One problem with AoE is that it bundles two separate benefits - covering a bigger area, and rolling to hit a flat DCV of 3.    Expanding the area is valuable overall, but I challenge the theory that losing the auto-hit only reduces the benefit by 1/4.
 
In fact, with "Accurate" priced at +1/2, perhaps AoE should be re-priced to only allow a normal roll to hit against all in the area - you want to hit the area and everyone in it at DCV 3, pay an extra +1/2 for Accurate.  You want to choose who in the area is not affected, that should be a separate additon to the advantage (say +1/2 as the difference between Selective and Non-Selective).  Break them out from the size and shape of the area covered.

Are you guys misspelling it FACERIP on purpose?

Highly disappointed.  Pfizer shot one 2 days ago and nothing.  No developing armored carapace, no signs of a third eye...nothing.
 
Maybe it was a defective batch
 

Highly disappointed.  Pfizer shot one 2 days ago and nothing.  No developing armored carapace, no signs of a third eye...nothing.
 
Maybe it was a defective batch
 

When in doubt - Change Environment 😀
 
Could be an EGO or CON roll to avoid making an exit from the area.

Well, unless you want certain players' PCs to behave like actual living things...🤐

Well, unless you want certain players' PCs to behave like actual living things...🤐