Cygnia Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bazza Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 On 12/11/2022 at 6:41 PM, Lord Liaden said: I consider spirituality to have been largely lost to modern Western society, which has left us diminished and adrift in important ways. Even religion has become obsessed with observance of forms and practices, glossing over the experience of the divine that those practices are intended to inspire. I know so. For the better part of the last 10 years, I have been researching this question along with related questions, such as how, why, what, and who. How is the modern world different from the pre-modern world? Why is the modern world different from the pre-modern world? What is the pre-modern worldview of things; how did they see/understand reality? Who is responsible for the transistion from the pre-modern world to the modern world; and for what purpose? I have a medium sized library* (buying books > reading them) that has helped elucidate the answers to the above questions. ( *Log-man would be proud ) Two related and interesting questions is the revolution that took place at Vatican II and loss of the widespread learning of Latin. On 12/11/2022 at 6:41 PM, Lord Liaden said: Things like enlightenment, inner peace, higher purpose, are difficult to quantify or tally on a balance sheet. These are not quantifiable, but are qualifiable, which is why they have been excluded from our scientific worldview. Enlightenment, inner peace, and higher purpose would be aspects of teleology (final causality); and teleology is another part we have largely lost to modernism. In Bacon's Advancement of Learning, he assigned teleology along with formal causality to metaphysics, which was dismissed by Auguste Comte. Without formal causality we have lost one of the basic "pillars" necessary for a transcendent foundation to support an intellectual spirituality. The other "pillar" supporting this would be the Universals. Lord Liaden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 Very cool. 👏 I remember hearing one cosmologist say that he believed the study of the nature of the Universe gives us insights into the mind of God. One example of how spirituality is not incompatible with a scientific worldview, so long as a specific doctrine of causality isn't placed in opposition to scientific evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 LL, I will respond, but might now be better to shift our conversation to a different thread. Can any mods move posts from one thread to another, or do we have to do it (manually)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Bazza said: LL, I will respond, but might now be better to shift our conversation to a different thread. Can any mods move posts from one thread to another, or do we have to do it (manually)? Maybe converse or debate by private message, if you prefer? Anyway, I woke up this morning with symptoms from my COVID booster vaccination, so I'm in no hurry. 🤒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted December 15, 2022 Report Share Posted December 15, 2022 slikmar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bazza Posted December 15, 2022 Report Share Posted December 15, 2022 On 12/14/2022 at 1:27 AM, Lord Liaden said: Maybe converse or debate by private message, if you prefer? Anyway, I woke up this morning with symptoms from my COVID booster vaccination, so I'm in no hurry. 🤒 Maybe we can pick it up in the new year as I'm a little busy until then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted December 18, 2022 Report Share Posted December 18, 2022 tkdguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/13/2022 at 2:09 AM, Logan D. Hurricanes said: Haven would love this. Where did you find it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 It was simply posted on another board I frequent. It's Grell if that helps. Sorry I can't say more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Liaden Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Cygnia said: Its composition and/or structure must make it remarkably light, to be held like that by an ordinary man (presumably). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 I think that has to be a cut and polished slice. That meteorite is a pallasite, a stony-iron whose main constituents are nickel-iron and olivine; the olivine is translucent or transparent and the metal matrix obviously is not. The original meteorite weight was about a metric ton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 Pariah and Lawnmower Boy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted December 28, 2022 Report Share Posted December 28, 2022 9-Year-Old Boy Keeps Getting In Trouble For Doodling In Class, Eventually Gets A Job Decorating The Walls Of A Restaurant rravenwood, slikmar and Cygnia 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted December 29, 2022 Report Share Posted December 29, 2022 Pariah, Lord Liaden and Logan D. Hurricanes 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingly Posted December 29, 2022 Report Share Posted December 29, 2022 I dunno... It seems like the kind of sign that penguins would put up as a trick... slikmar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cygnia Posted December 29, 2022 Report Share Posted December 29, 2022 The amount of guano there alone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted December 29, 2022 Report Share Posted December 29, 2022 ...would be enough to make the explosives necessary to mine the whole area. Wait, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Logan D. Hurricanes Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 Lee, tkdguy, rravenwood and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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