Ragitsu Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Why is the forum background now (as in, up to a day ago) blindingly white? My only recourse is to use a Firefox add-on called "Dark Reader". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 I was wondering at the change myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 You have eyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted August 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 The text that I am currently typing is impossible to see unless highlighted. Is this what it feels like to be a drow on the surface? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjack Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 It’s different, but not necessarily bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroGM Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 I caught it in the middle and went huh? I like it, though yes I agree it could be more of an off white. Duke Bushido 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 The site is also super slow right now. It takes several seconds to load/navigate to any page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 I'd also like to turn the sidebar off. And a font size option would be very helpful. As would the ability to change the colors, but that can be more problematic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 I suspect the theme was reset due to a software update. Perhaps Simon will have to re-customize it back to where it was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Ah....histrionics. OH GOD....MY EYES! The goggles -- they do nothing! The background went from slightly grayed white to white. Why...it's like nothing I've ever seen before! No other place on the internet would EVER do this kind of thing. Well...except for Facebook, Twitter, Reddit.... Stop griping. Khas and Hugh Neilson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 I tried Dark Reader for Chrome for all of about 2 minutes. Unwanted side effects galore with other things, such as my themes for my GMail pages, and with a dark theme I was using on a different site. And it slowed initial page display down a bit. Simon...I went to a dark theme for FB because the white was too much. And we are your customers, we have the right to gripe. I've NEVER liked pure white as the dominant color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Wait...you're paying for access to the site that I admin for free? Really? How dare I update the site, including modifications to the default theme. Why...it's downright dastardly. Likely intended just to piss you off. Greywind, Khas and Hugh Neilson 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 And we have to blithely approve of the changes? We're pointing out aspects of the change that raise issues...not that you tweaked things in the first place. Seems like you're taking this personally; it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 In a word: yes. In more words: think of it as being in someone else's house. If you want to raise issue with their choice in wallpaper or change in paint color, you likely want to be at least somewhat circumspect in that. Histrionics do not benefit anyone. Lord Liaden, Hugh Neilson and Khas 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted August 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Thankfully, I have a page open that displays the forums before the alteration; I'll see about uploading a comparison. The difference is virtually night and day. Edit -> The previous forum color scheme was an unappealing glare (though not quite this bad). I turned to a Firefox add-on called "Dark Background and Light Text" that ended up being useful not only for this HERO haunt, but also other forums that (for whatever reason) have embraced emulating snow blindness. For the longest time, this bit of software worked just fine without my intervention; I never had to adjust it or otherwise engage in any sort of regularly occurring maintenance. It appears the add-on stopped functioning here about two days ago. I revisited those previously mentioned forums to ensure that the add-on hadn't failed completely. "Dark Background and Light Text" is still functioning properly on other websites. Strange... (In case anyone is interested, you can alter the background color and text color with the aforementioned add-on.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Ragjitu I personally hate black backgrounds. I can’t read anything on it. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Yeah...black text on white background....it’s unheard of. Blinding. Unusable. Realizing that histrionics won’t help your cause yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjack Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 How much of this is about disliking change of ANY kind as opposed to an actual problem with the new format? Meanwhile, thank you Simon for your hard work maintaining this joint in the first place.❤️❤️ Hugh Neilson and Simon 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 The only thing I don't like is the new two-colum format for topics, with the summary info at top, and the text boxes for the posts being narrowed. Once you scroll past the right hand content, you get a ton of white space. That's relatively easily fixed from my end, though. Oh! I see that's already gone! Oops, not gone. Just not on all post. Maybe it's just a stat block for popular posts? 🤷♂️ I do prefer black letters on white text. This gray text fad over the last few years infuriates me. Duke Bushido 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 In reading Ragitsu's post, I think it is about disliking a change that lost functionality/compatibility (with an addon he uses) that was previously present and working without issue. I think the issue is that forum software can't be expected to work with every third-party addon out there in perpetuity. And just because said addon works with other sites doesn't obligate this site to maintain compatibility with it as a priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 Just a side note: As I pointed out in my first post in the thread: Every time this forum software gets updated, the theme seems to get reset. You guys should be used to this by now. I can see how Simon's annoyed by the tone of some of the responses. Given that Simon's been keeping our little hangout running through the apocalypse here, and tensions are high due to 2020 being a suckfest, we should probably cut him some slack. I've been on the board since like 1999 or 2000, and it's not been as well-run as it has been under Simon. Let's all hold hands and sing kumbaya, now. At least we can still asynchronously communicate. Chris Goodwin, Simon, aylwin13 and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 33 minutes ago, Pattern Ghost said: The only thing I don't like is the new two-colum format for topics, with the summary info at top, and the text boxes for the posts being narrowed. Once you scroll past the right hand content, you get a ton of white space. That's relatively easily fixed from my end, though. Oh! I see that's already gone! Oops, not gone. Just not on all post. Maybe it's just a stat block for popular posts? 🤷♂️ It looks like it'll be present on posts that exceed a certain number of pages over a period of time -- a way to keep track of potentially useful/popular/interesting posts that may otherwise get lost. Edit: I've changed it so that it should show under the first post in a thread rather than as a sidebar. Hugh Neilson and Pattern Ghost 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 Hmm..."I dislike this issue and here is why" receives a polite response and a change. "AAAAAHHHHH The sky is falling! THE SKY IS FALLING!!" is received with a more dismisive tone. Go figure. It took me a couple of minutes to find "mark forum read" after the change. It's perfectly readable. I am pretty sure either Windows or my monitor, maybe both, can adjust brightness, if the light from your monitor is scorching the wall it faces. Duke Bushido 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjack Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 19 hours ago, Pattern Ghost said:asynchronously communicate. For the dum-dums like me that means “sing like a bag of cats on fire“? Or a Justin Bieber concert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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