Enforcer84 Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Perhaps the title is a bit harsh but as I was doing my Batman research at DC's website I have to ask: It looks like Wonder Woman is being cancelled. Any other victims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? Wow. First lady of comics being cancelled? That's almost like cancelling Superman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austenandrews Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? I suspect it's a reboot or retool. WW is too iconic a property to drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.J. Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? It's not the first time. Flash is apparently taking a short vacation, too. There's some question as to if Wally even survives...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? Especially with the movie by Jos Whedon in the works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? Well, it's clear this series is ending Written by Greg Rucka ; Art by Cliff Richards and Ray Snyder ; Cover by J.G. Jones Astonishing final issue! With the universe in turmoil, Diana prepares to face her ultimate challenge. Looking back on her relationship with Superman from the way it began to its recent turmoil, will she find a way to rebuild what she's lost? Final issue. DC Universe | 32pg. | Color | $2.50 US But, as has been pointed out, there's nothing saying she won't be showing up in a brand new #1 a month or two after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted January 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? Well, it's clear this series is ending But, as has been pointed out, there's nothing saying she won't be showing up in a brand new #1 a month or two after that. That's what I thought too. That's even worse, you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austenandrews Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? One wonders if they might be working with Whedon to retool for the movie. THough it's a bit early for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? That's what I thought too. That's even worse, you know? I guess we shall see if the rumor that they are depowering Diana and handing the mantle over to Donna Troy is true or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted January 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? I guess we shall see if the rumor that they are depowering Diana and handing the mantle over to Donna Troy is true or not. That, I could probably live with. And it wouldn't bother me so much that they stopped and started the series again. A new Wonder Woman on a permanent basis would be about what I'd require for a #1 Reboot. But it would surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodstone Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? After IC is over, they will be doing an All Star Wonder Woman. Rumors have it there may be a version of her in the normal DCU too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchpad Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? I believe that there is a planned reboot of both the Flash and Wonder Woman series ... as well as rumors of another series akin to Gotham Central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? I don't see the point in rehashing the Diana Depowered storyline again. How many times has she been through that now? Three? More? I don't know how original you can be after 60 years of storytelling, but the depowered-year or two off-repowered thing never worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caris Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? The following information is hearsay I do not have an official source for it: I believe that there is a limit on how long DC can go without actually printing a Wonder Woman title. As I understand it, DC does not actually own the character. WW was a rarity in the Golden Age, she was actually owned by William Moulton Marston (i.e. he retained the rights to the character and licensed them to DC). This has remained true to this day it is actually his estate that owns the character with a license for all rights to the character conditioned upon DC producing an actual comic book. Wonder Woman while not very valuable as a comic book comodity is extremely lucrative in terms of other licensed merchandise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellS Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? Wonder Woman, Flash, and the Justice League have all been cancelled; and all will be coming back with new titles later this year [though we're not sure who the Flash will be or who will be in the new JLA]. 2006 is all about new directions and stories so people don't need to worry about too much past continuity when wanting to get into the comics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellS Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? The following information is hearsay I do not have an official source for it: I believe that there is a limit on how long DC can go without actually printing a Wonder Woman title. As I understand it, DC does not actually own the character. WW was a rarity in the Golden Age, she was actually owned by William Moulton Marston (i.e. he retained the rights to the character and licensed them to DC). This has remained true to this day it is actually his estate that owns the character with a license for all rights to the character conditioned upon DC producing an actual comic book. Wonder Woman while not very valuable as a comic book comodity is extremely lucrative in terms of other licensed merchandise. My understanding is that DC purchased the full rights for Wonder Woman from the Marston estate in 1986 right before Perez started his reboot because of all the changes he wanted to make in the character. Look on the brightside of comics though: Superman's copyright expires in 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Serpent Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? My understanding is that DC purchased the full rights for Wonder Woman from the Marston estate in 1986 right before Perez started his reboot because of all the changes he wanted to make in the character. Look on the brightside of comics though: Superman's copyright expires in 2013. I'll believe that will happen right after I see Mickey Mouse go public domain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinanju Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? My understanding is that DC purchased the full rights for Wonder Woman from the Marston estate in 1986 right before Perez started his reboot because of all the changes he wanted to make in the character. Look on the brightside of comics though: Superman's copyright expires in 2013. But if you look at the legal info printed in every issue, you'll notice that it points out that "Superman and the distinctive likeness thereof is a trademark of DC Comics blah blah blah" and so forth. Copyrights are copyrights. You don't EVER have to publish something to protect the copyright. But they do eventually expire (in theory, if Disney doesn't manage to change that...) TRADEMARKS, on the other hand, are a "use it or (eventually) lose it" proposition. However, the upside is that as long you use and protect them, trademarks NEVER expire. That's why no valuable superhero character ever goes long without seeing print again, whether is their own book or as a guest star in another book. As long as DC continues to USE the Superman trademark, they'll never lose it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinDangaioh Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? Trademark cannot be used to extend copyright. The auto companies tried that and got slapped down. But, Disney will probably shove the copyright back again. As to Wonder Woman's required publishing: At least four times a year or every three months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? She'll be back soon. My understanding is that the estate of her creator (William Moulton Marston) will have all rights Wonder Woman revert to them if she stays out of publication for long. Per Wikipedia: Negotiated before his death in 1947, his heirs retain small royalties from all Wonder Woman related creations and merchandise. Also there is a reversion of rights clause that states if DC Comics does not publish for one month any Wonder Woman comic book, the rights to the Wonder Woman character and related merchandise, past, current, and future revert to his family. Effectively, this means that if DC Comics became so poor that they could only publish one comic book a month, it would have to be Wonder Woman, or else they would lose her to Marston's family. Presumably though, this has been extended to the creation and distribution of other Wonder Woman merchandise. However, there is a possibility that this is no longer true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? I like continuity. That is to say, I like when the past comes back to haunt a hero. I like when things thought put to rest resurface. I like when a plot thread you thought was forgotten actually wasn't. At the same time, I'd rather not have people mangling entire universes in order to make everything make better sense. In otherwords, forget the overreaching, character assassinating storylines and play ball as usual. If they think ruining a series' storied history will get more people into comics, they're crazy. Too much history is NOT the reason people don't read as many comics anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? I'll believe that will happen right after I see Mickey Mouse go public domain. The continuing extensions of Copyright by Congress are a Farce, and should be a Crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? My understanding is that DC purchased the full rights for Wonder Woman from the Marston estate in 1986 right before Perez started his reboot because of all the changes he wanted to make in the character. Look on the brightside of comics though: Superman's copyright expires in 2013. Lets reboot the whole universe... Suckage indeed. I'm glad I didn't get back into comic collecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellS Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? Lets reboot the whole universe... Suckage indeed. I'm glad I didn't get back into comic collecting. If you're going to get back into collecting then March is the time to do it. Every book in DC advances One Year with [supposedly] continuity corrected and no un-needed baggage so that it's easier for people to get back into comics. I've been enjoying Infinite Crisis so far, and I've been out of comics several years as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted January 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: DC Suckverse? Well, that makes a certain amount of sense then. At least as comic books go. I don't know how long it will be before I find something to complain about, but we'll let them have their new directions for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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