Christopher Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick It's possible' date=' though unlikely, that the massacre is an illusion. We are dealing with illusionists after all, and how better to get people to trust their eyes than to make it look like they've got no illusions to fear?[/quote'] Something like that had crossed my mind as well. And the illusion not holding up to halfling senses would make sense, given the older groups (what were they called again?) group dynamic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick A scent illusion as well? Is that possible in 3.5 rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Afaik it only went 2-3 generations deep. Edit: Definitely only 2 generations. Otherwise V would have wiped out the entire species back then. That's not what I took away from that. I thought he had Familicid-ed *all* of her Progeny, regardless of how many intervening generations. There were 64 various dragons pictured being killed. That seems like a lot for just two generations, especially for an apex predator. Every living creature that directly shares your bloodline is dead. Every living creature that is directly related to any of *those* creatures is also dead. Anyone who could possibly make a claim to be part of your family is now gone. Wouldn't a child still "directly share" the bloodline of their great-great-great grandparents? Why would someone need to stop at only two generations of descendants? A dragon could still say "You killed my great-grandmother!" to V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Mama Dragon mentioned that she was visiting her son's "uncle" when she went after V, so she has/had potential siblings as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Mama Dragon mentioned that she was visiting her son's "uncle" when she went after V' date=' so she has/had potential siblings as well.[/quote'] Okay, so V took out not only her and all of her decendants, but also her siblings and anyone related to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Why not, Harry Dresden did it with the entire Red court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick And now we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Good call on this, Cygnia. And yeah, the whole 'reap what you sow' tragedy is certainly coming on strong here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0842.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gillen Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Everything has unintended consequences. EVERYTHING. JG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Everything has unintended consequences. EVERYTHING. JG Especially Familycide spells. The question is, what will V do now? And will the three Evil guys intervene in any way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Oh. My. God. And Epic spells can have Epic Repercussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Here's an evil thought... I've theorized Draketooth as being actually a dragon (either bronze, brass or copper). What if he was a black dragon -- and he and his kin were related to the black dragon's family line that V wiped out? I'm probably wrong, but what if indeed? Good call. My prediction: Yukyuk the Kobold will kill Belkar - either on Varsuvius' orders or after breaking out of the enchantment, or in circumstances that cast doubt on which Lucius Alexander Order of the Palindromedary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick *victory dance* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick The question now is - will Varsuvius take responsibility for it? Lucius Alexander Can't blame the palindromedary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick *victory dance* I'd rep you for your awesome oracle ness, but 'you must spread around yadda yadda' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick And we have the latest iteration of the Gates' defences failing due exactly to the strengths that their defenders celebrated. Lirian's gate, defended by Nature, was lost to an unnatural lich and then destroyed in a wild fire. Dorukan's gate, defended by the magic of a solitary defender was lost to the enemy by Dorukan reaching out to another, and then destroyed by the magical self-destruct function that he built in. Soon's Gate, defended by paladin's honour and the strength of the Sapphire Guard, was lost to the enemy due to deceit at the heart of the defence and then destroyed by a paladin's misguided sense of honour. The defences of Girard's gate, we can now see, were compromised by his reliance on family. I assume that we are going to see it destroyed as some kind of ironic consequence of dependence on illusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick *victory dance* Impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick And we have the latest iteration of the Gates' defences failing due exactly to the strengths that their defenders celebrated. Lirian's gate, defended by Nature, was lost to an unnatural lich and then destroyed in a wild fire. Dorukan's gate, defended by the magic of a solitary defender was lost to the enemy by Dorukan reaching out to another, and then destroyed by the magical self-destruct function that he built in. Soon's Gate, defended by paladin's honour and the strength of the Sapphire Guard, was lost to the enemy due to deceit at the heart of the defence and then destroyed by a paladin's misguided sense of honour. The defences of Girard's gate, we can now see, were compromised by his reliance on family. I assume that we are going to see it destroyed as some kind of ironic consequence of dependence on illusion. Well reasoned, I look forward to seeing if this is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Well, if I recall correctly, the halfling who's supposed to be guarding the final gate had it surrounded by ferocious monsters as a way to honor the strength of the deceased dwarven barbarian (which makes me wonder if that'll play in into Durkon's death/prophecy about his return being responsible for the destruction of his home in any way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Well' date=' if I recall correctly, the halfling who's supposed to be guarding the final gate had it surrounded by ferocious monsters as a way to honor the strength of the deceased dwarven barbarian (which makes me wonder if that'll play in into Durkon's death/prophecy about his return being responsible for the destruction of his home in any way).[/quote'] He is going to be responsible for the destruction of his home? As far as I know it was only said that he would "return home posthumously". Nothing about destroying his home anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick "The Origin of PCs" goes into more detail about why Durkon was sent out of his home with due haste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick "The Origin of PCs" goes into more detail about why Durkon was sent out of his home with due haste. I have to book and read it (now access rigth now), and I am not certain if there was something in that direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick He was sent away because a dwarven oracle said his return would doom his home, IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeropoint Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Whoa . . . Posthumous return. Return dooms home. Durkon comes back as a powerful lich? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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