Hermit Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I think I have a man crush on Mr. Stiffly, and that sounds so wrong in so many ways I can't even begin to explain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maur Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick they probably suffer the "Slashdot effect" each time they release a new panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gillen Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I think I have a man crush on Mr. Stiffly' date=' and that sounds so wrong in so many ways I can't even begin to explain...[/quote'] "It'll be great PR, don't you agree?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I can't get over how similar Celia and Belkar are morally, in contrast to Haley. Perhaps Mr. Burlew is trying subtly to show up the limitations of the whole alignment system? Lucius Alexander So, what alignment is a palindromedary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gillen Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I can't get over how similar Celia and Belkar are morally, in contrast to Haley. Perhaps Mr. Burlew is trying subtly to show up the limitations of the whole alignment system? Lucius Alexander So, what alignment is a palindromedary? Not exactly... they're both Chaotic, but Celia is even more appalled at Belkar's behavior than Haley is. JG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inu Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Not exactly... they're both Chaotic, but Celia is even more appalled at Belkar's behavior than Haley is. JG Yeah. I think much more he's showing how alignment isn't a straitjacket. It's not 'nine personality types' -- it's general ordering of behaviour, but doesn't dictate actions or personality. Celia and Haley are probably both chaotic good, but you couldn't have two more different reactions to various things, including Belkar's casual killing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristopher Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I know it's already been hashed over, but add me to the list of people who no longer see Belkar as ammusing or at all redeemable after he killed the old man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I know it's already been hashed over' date=' but add me to the list of people who no longer see Belkar as ammusing or at all redeemable after he killed the old man.[/quote'] Yeah, Belkar has made me laugh my butt off plenty of times. He was my guilty pleasure. But he needs to go. HOW he needs to go, I trust to Rich's excellent story telling skills. Judging by the Oracle's comment about birthdays, I think Rich already has something in mind for Belkar's end. Part of me shall miss that little 'sexy shoeless god of war', but the rest knows he's just gone too dark for me. Redcloak is less evil at this point imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teh bunneh Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Is there a new one up? I was just on the site and the only one I saw was O-Chul's "My duty is to endure" one. Also, I think you guys are being too tough on poor Belkar. I mean, if killing a few innocent people is all it takes to be evil, then I'm evil too! ... ... ... Oh, right. Nevermind. Ah-heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Slow that Belkar-must-go bandwagon down a bit. I want to get on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Is there a new one up? I was just on the site and the only one I saw was O-Chul's "My duty is to endure" one. Also, I think you guys are being too tough on poor Belkar. I mean, if killing a few innocent people is all it takes to be evil, then I'm evil too! ... ... ... Oh, right. Nevermind. Ah-heh. Don't feel left out... When you get your own webcomic, we'll call for your destruction as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSword Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I enjoy Belkar, his callous disregard for life is refreshing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gillen Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I know it's already been hashed over' date=' but add me to the list of people who no longer see Belkar as ammusing or at all redeemable after he killed the old man.[/quote'] Amusing, yes. Redeemable, no. It's not like Xykon is supposed to be redeemable and I find him amusing as hell. JG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mhoram Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Slow that Belkar-must-go bandwagon down a bit. I want to get on! I was on that wagon a long time ago. Glad to see new riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick If they replace Belkar with O-Chul, I'd be happy. I don't see that happening. And, I don't see Belkar going away. He's the "Hack & Slash" PC and the fact that there aren't more of him in the Order surprises me. That being said, I could see the "Order's" charter changing; Elan and Haley could retire together, Belkar could get his just deserts, Roy could simply not come back to life, Durkon could finally get home and Vaarsuvius could find him/herself at the wrong end of a spell (or longwinded monologue). We'll see I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garou Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I don't see Belkar's killing of the gnome as any more evil than many of the other killings he has done. The nasty little bugger is like a Cuisinart of Death, exposed to innocents and without an owner's manual. Really, he should be kept in chains until such time as he can be pointed at an enemy, then set loose in the hopes that he kills people on the correct side, and can then be either recaptured or is killed. But yeah, he is a caricature of the Hack-n-Slash style of play, so it is unlikely that he is going away soon. But can we get more silver spandex on those costumes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Ooo, a new one. Okay, yes, Xyklon's whims are indeed disturbing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gillen Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick "Can we get some more silver spandex on those costumes?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maur Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I don't understand why Belkar is so hated. Yes, he likes killing things. Has since the very beginning. He pretty much seems to be a 2nd Ed character brought into 3.5... XP is only gained for killing, so that is what he loves to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gillen Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I don't understand why Belkar is so hated. Yes' date=' he likes killing things. Has since the very beginning. He pretty much seems to be a 2nd Ed character brought into 3.5[/quote'] He IS a 2nd Edition character brought into 3rd. He's a Halfling and still has bare feet. JG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I don't understand why Belkar is so hated. Yes' date=' he likes killing things. Has since the very beginning. He pretty much seems to be a 2nd Ed character brought into 3.5... XP is only gained for killing, so that is what he loves to do.[/quote'] Oh, mark my words, he's hilarious, the very definition of 'Funny, but wrong', but before now, his violence has been very well directed by Roy to kill mostly those opposing the OoTS at least in the Presence of the OotS (He did butcher his way into the Barbarian's Guild). The death of the gnome crossed a line, imo. Haley couldn't stop it, the gnome was a true innocent in almost every sense of the word, and taking away the chocolate bar seemed to do little. Perhaps death isn't the best thing for Belkar, he still could be lots of fun as a bad guy, but the Order of the Stick needs to disassociate themselves from him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristopher Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Oh, mark my words, he's hilarious, the very definition of 'Funny, but wrong', but before now, his violence has been very well directed by Roy to kill mostly those opposing the OoTS at least in the Presence of the OotS (He did butcher his way into the Barbarian's Guild). The death of the gnome crossed a line, imo. Haley couldn't stop it, the gnome was a true innocent in almost every sense of the word, and taking away the chocolate bar seemed to do little. Perhaps death isn't the best thing for Belkar, he still could be lots of fun as a bad guy, but the Order of the Stick needs to disassociate themselves from him Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualplayer Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick If there hadn't been a Belkar in just about every game I've ever played in, I would agree that he has no place anymore with the OotS. But there has been, so he does. He's the guy who just can't ever treat NPCs as "real," a combat wombat who has to roll to hit at least once an hour while at the table. You keep him around because you're afraid of what might happen if he's left alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gillen Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick If there hadn't been a Belkar in just about every game I've ever played in' date=' I would agree that he has no place anymore with the OotS. But there has been, so he does. He's the guy who just can't ever treat NPCs as "real," a combat wombat who has to roll to hit at least once an hour while at the table. You keep him around because you're afraid of what might happen if he's left alone.[/quote'] Did I ever tell you guys about the one Champions campaign where our GM wanted to run a four-color group and one of the guys made a Predator? JG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadanNaBriona Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick If there hadn't been a Belkar in just about every game I've ever played in' date=' I would agree that he has no place anymore with the OotS. But there has been, so he does. He's the guy who just can't ever treat NPCs as "real," a combat wombat who has to roll to hit at least once an hour while at the table. You keep him around because you're afraid of what might happen if he's left alone.[/quote'] I concur. he's the kind of character played by the sort that favors Chaotic Neutral for his characters, because CN lets him "Do whatever he wants without violating my alignment". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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