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Okay, after looking at the latest shapeshift tread I was rereading the shapeshift entry in the 5ER and not having Ultimate Metamorph, I noticed the limitation “Affects Body Only” listed. This limitation is a -1/2 that the shapeshift is only the actual body of the individual who has the power and not their clothing or carried items. I also noticed that other body affecting powers did not have this limitation. I could see this limitation being used with growth, shrinking and possibly multi-form (Hulk anybody) as well. Maybe not to the level of shapeshift but to the -1/4 level. My example: If I want to create the shrinker Dr. Elvin Lincoln on the Misfits of Science TV show from the mid 1980s, I would think I would get a greater 0 limitation for not being able to take equipment (or clothing) with the character. (Doc Lincoln carried Ken clothes with him so when he used his power he could be modest.) My question would be to Herodom is this an actual missing official limitation or is it a campaign dependent limitation, or am I missing it totally by not having UMeta? EDIT:: I was thinking the shredded effect for growth and some multiforms in my initial response as well as some to the resent Atom stories (May be a little Iron age). On rethinking CC is correct.

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Re: Name for a school / style of magic... I found no formal name but I did find this quote from The Golden Bough http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/3623 that I thought would be helpful. This seems to indicate that this was the purpose of early organized magics.

Re: The Question write up? I have no write up but based on what I remember of the DC run of the character: The Character is a Very good martial artist He is a reporter. He wares a 'faceless mask' and uses a gas to make it adhere The gas has some healing properties He is a Buddhist He out riddled the Riddler Bare with me. I know this is general knowledge. He respects the Batman but calls him Monkey Man (He watch the Bat use a Monkey form on some thugs) This implies analyze forms. He got his mask from a contact (gadgeteer) and the mask and gas were a 'failed' medical experiment. The mask can act as a filter (limited life-support) against disease and toxins The present DC character is dying of lung cancer. Them the fact as I know them.

Re: World without Menton The dear Doctor Destroyer finally can unleash a group of genetically engineered mentalist based off of Menton's Genetic code with out him usurping the group, due to a resonance with him. They are utterly loyal to the (not so) good doctor and go about causing untold havoc with the world society. OR Menton was the only on keeping a bunch of petty personalities in politics from actually being worse then they where (For his own enrichment, and for a weird challenge). With out his influence all of hades breaks loose and we have a large number of political assassinations in the US and Western Europe using any and every means possible. Can our heroes stop the Societal Collapse in to anarchy?

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Re: Best and Worst Costume/Appearance Changes Likes: Superman Black (Resurrection/Return of Superman/Empiror Joker) (Yes I am wierd) Kingdom Come Captain Marvel Dawnstar costume Dr StarngeFate Dr Fate Dislikes: Superman Red/Blue (Electro-Superman) early 70's Cosmic Boy Current Lex Luthor

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Re: Genocide I thought Franklin was potentally the worlds most powerful mutant (do to the freaky radiation that gave the FF their power. That was the reason that Reed hid (or still is hidding) his power and I believe he is even sheided from Ceribus (But that was way before House of M)

Re: Genocide I don't think the arguement is that such groups are not realistic in human attutide, but that in genre they are not realistic, meaning that they pick on certain people with power and not others. Marvel X books have people hissing booing and killing X-Men, but praising the freaky Mr. Fantastic and the Thing. The Genre is ... uneven... in its paranoia. This is not to say such groups would not exist in a "realistic" (used loosly around human interactions or anything in a comicbook) world but they would be out to end any "threat" to humanity as they see it, be it the guy that shoots eye beams or streach like a rubber band. If he got his power from an accident of birth or just a radiation accident I would think a set of the population would be afraid of the freaks. And that subset would not be discrimating on how they got the power.

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Re: Artifacts DC side as well: Vandle Savage Phatom Stranger Ra's Al Ghul ? (If he has not become immune to the Lazerus Pit) Most of the Amazons Orion Mr. Mircle (Scott Free) Big Bertha Sentinal (Alan Scott) Dr Fate Shazam/Marvel/Billy Batson (The Wizard of the Power) Ion Etrigan the Demon

Re: Analysis: Extra Limbs - SFX or Power? Looking at this topic, I have an image from the trailer for the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy movie where the human female (whos name I forgot) trys to restrane Zaphod from activating the Heart of Gold by grabing his arms,. This fails because she does not grab his third arm. Is this ability, being harder to restrain, worth 5 points. I see both arguments here, just as a larger then normal character built with the size templates have to pay for their longer reach and hex wide sweeps, you are asking a character to pay for their enhanced ablities due to their extra limb/s. Paying for the extra limb would be considered a penalty for a releated group of ablities. But is this five point ablity just the cost of being harder to restrain the limbs of the character is my other thought (a minor adder for natural limbs, harder then normal to restrain). Looking at the extra limbs as an adder for being harder to restrain actually makes sense to me, the more I think of it.

Re: Need an organization name Vanderbuild Advanced Scientific and Technology Foundation (aka VAST Found. )

Re: Vampires in Supers Setting When I think Vampire in a Superhero world I think DCs 'I, Vampire'. A Vampire driven to fight his own kind. When I think of cinimatic monsters in a Super world I think of DC's Wierd War Tales and the Creature Commandos. Sorry I was a DC geek. But I Like a government agency 'creating' monsters to fight monsters theme.

Re: Rare meteorite found in Kansas field So what your saying is that you can ward off Bizzaro? Me am impressed.

Re: ideas for dead alternate worlds The two worlds I think of when you say 'dead alternate worlds' are: Dead world from 2000 AD Judge Dredd. Dead world is where the undead Judges Death, Mortus and Fire come from. They judged their world and convected everone of the crime of life. Wally World from the JLI. Wally world is where the Exstremist come from, all but one are androids of the original group. Under the the twisted leadership of the only non android they killed everyone except 'Wally' (Walt Disney character in suspended animation). Who the JLI rescued. My weird little list

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Re: Batman vs Midnighter Note, I believe in the comic Captain Atom: Armageddon vol. 6, a 'Void' possessed Captain Atom fried both Midnighter and Apollo in two frames (and Jenny Sparks as well). After defeating rest of the Authority, Majestic, and the Wild Cats in previous comics, just as the Good Captain. This lead to an appearent reboot of the that Universe...

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Re: Future submarine warfare? This thread reminds me of some Traveller material I read on the "wet" navy and submarines. Subs where used as mobile anti orbital launch platforms, but could be detected by mason and neutrino detection systems used on Traveller capital ships so the subs used very advance battery systems to run during combat and use fusion reactors for recharge and to fire the spinal mounted Mason cannon at enemies in orbit. ( Mason cannons in Traveller fired through most defenses to cause internal damage (it ignored intervening mater)Only Black and White Globe Generators could stop a mason gun ) But for the actual question posted: So for a pure sub based story I would go with small fusion reactors, magnetic inductance drives, 60 + knots subsurface speed, underwater cites (in pressure domes), for basic technology. Addtionally, I would use advance Magnetic anomaly detection systems to find most other subs and cities (active SONAR being outlawed due to environmental damage.) I would use the standurd plot points dealing with under sea mining, political intrigue, pirates, business intrigue, lost cities and environmental plots. I would Use the Hunt for Red October, Voyage to the Bottom of Sea, and pulp under sea adventures for ideas, if I where to run such a campaign. May be some elements of the Man from Atlantis would be used as well to add to the adventure of it all. I think spewed enough random thoughts on subs in Sci-Fi environments for a few minutes and may expand them if I feel I was unclear. or find a glaring grammar, spelling or logical error (all of which are common for me.)

Re: Magic System Question #1 The 'Small' 5e book (5th edition 1st edition (initial print runs) ) is called FREd by the board members. 5 RE is what most call the present printing of the 5 edition ( 5 ed 2nd edition ?? ). Those who refernence the 4th ed Champions hard cover call it the BBB (the Big Blue Book). Am I confused yet EDIT: So this is the break down as I understand it FREd = 5e (1st edition or unrevised version) 5re = 5e (2nd edition or revised version) BBB = 4e Champions Hardback all in one edition. /EDIT

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