Asperion Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Here we go with yet another Character A vs. Character B. This time it will be River Tam versus Buffy the Vampire Slayer. River Tam: Normal human capable of shutting off her mindand going into full combat mode. Took on first a bar filled with more than three dozen people (several of them tough bouncers) then moved onto another location where she took on several (number unknown) tough brutal killing beings (people?) who are individually capable of dealing with the previous barroom. Buffy: Highly trained warrior with low level super human strength and minor regeneration. If a fight were to occur between these two who would win? Also state what your reasons for this outcome would be and if any incidental damage would occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer River. Buffy would never touch her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Tam's too variable. One day she's unstoppable, and the next she's nearly helpless. However since Buffy isn't going to fight all out against a human being River has the edge if it's a good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Tam is variable. But, it does seem certain things are more likely to provoke her into kill mode. If you manipulate such criteria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer When buffy knows the weakness of an enemy, she could overcome the strongest foe. So as long as there are some old books about Tam's condition (or other ways to find her weakness), and there is a time to read/search for it between first meeting and the real battle - it might be buffy who wins. P.S.: Why not a poll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer First, Joss Whedon's head would explode. (If you seen it, it looks like it's pretty close to that already) If it's the River Tam who fought the Reavers, I've got to go with River. If it's the River and Buffy who frequently appear in fan fiction, then the winner is us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naanomi Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Buffy regularly returns from the dead, and has a more fighty supporting cast (Slayer army now, lots of magic support). Not that this gives her the win, but something to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asperion Posted May 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer This is how I think things would work out: Buffy's greater strength would allow for a greater punch when shen lands a hit, but River's greater DCV makes that very hard to do. River's ability to hit in a manner that bypasses defenses would have the effect of a stronger blow to Buffy, but that damage gets healed by her healing factor. As for Buffy's friends, River would take them out real quick before they would have a chance to do anything to help Buffy. The way that they would help Buffy would be to get triggered spells and traps set before the combat begins. When all is over with, the area that they are fighting in is taken care of (destroyed nicely) and they call a draw a truce since neither one able to get the advantage over the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraven Kor Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Does this fight take place in Jello, or perhaps Pudding? (Who came up with the idea of girls wrestling in jello, anywho?) Any of these "Fictional Hero A" vs. "Fictional Hero B" really end up being decided by whoever writes the script; and as it is Whedon, they would both die, then both come back to life, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Fictional character C who sniper-rifles both of them in the head, putting them out of our misery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexMundi Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Buffy: "You're not a Vampire? How am I supposed to fall madly into the sack with you?" River: "Your Waif-Fu is Weak, Prepare to ......OH...Shiney Object!" Whedon: "Wait Girls I can work this into my Avengers Script!" ~Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer I don't know... Buffy's theoretically at least a match for Drusilla, who's basically River + superhuman strength and resilience - sensible footwear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Don't know where they assessment of Drusila came from. I don't remember Dru doing anything but losing. She was all henchman-y, relying on minions or Spike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Khan Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Drusila did manage to kill a slayer (Kendra), but she had to use mind control to get to her... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapsedgamer Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Tam is variable. But' date=' it does seem certain things are more likely to provoke her into kill mode. If you manipulate such criteria?[/quote'] "Fruity Oaty Bars make a man out of a mouse..." This is how I think things would work out: Buffy's greater strength would allow for a greater punch when shen lands a hit, but River's greater DCV makes that very hard to do. River's ability to hit in a manner that bypasses defenses would have the effect of a stronger blow to Buffy, but that damage gets healed by her healing factor. As for Buffy's friends, River would take them out real quick before they would have a chance to do anything to help Buffy. The way that they would help Buffy would be to get triggered spells and traps set before the combat begins. When all is over with, the area that they are fighting in is taken care of (destroyed nicely) and they call a draw a truce since neither one able to get the advantage over the other. Buffy's healing factor is slow. She doesn't do Wolverine style heal before your eyes stuff. In Hero terms her healing rate is something like every day, not Post Segment 12. If River could get in and do the damage fast, Buffy is still toast. Their actual combat ability is very close, especially when you are talking Buffy in the later seasons. Strength edge goes to Buffy. Ruthlessness edge goes to River. Note how she took out Jayne. She doesn't eff around when she's in kill mode. Close fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Buffy would take her out in the rematch IF there's a rematch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadanNaBriona Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Buffy would take her out in the rematch IF there's a rematch Yeah, probably. B's good on the rematches. That said, I think I give the first match to River Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkonduty Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Well I have definite preference for brunettes so my vote goes to River too. But if were to just go by kill factor: I'd go Buffy. Both have taken on hordes of minions, but only Buffy has taken on gods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahuna's bro Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer i'm unfamiliar with river tam is she the firely character? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexMundi Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Yeah queen of Waif-Fu ......great character, but Buffy the Vampire Layer (pun intended) would mop the floor with her. It's going to come down to a simple unbeatable rule. I'm Super Strong, you are Not. ~Rex....says even The Batman found that out in a fight with Deathstroke the Terminator. Being a better fighter pales in comparisson to being swatted with a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer As long as clothing gets torn....I'm the winner. I'm going to go with Buffy, she's more than human, and fights more than human foes..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualplayer Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Buffy got seven seasons and a movie. River got, like, 7 episodes and a movie. Buffy has way, way more xp and would bring the noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsatow Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Fictional character C who sniper-rifles both of them in the head' date=' putting them out of our misery.[/quote'] Jayne for the win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsatow Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer I'd think Buffy. While Tam's brain been augmented such that her reflexes are at top or just over the top human physical form, Buffy has been upped magically in Strength, Speed, and Endurance. Her strength has been show where she can throw someone 10 feet in the air. Her speed has been shown where she dodges bullets and catches crossbow bolts. And as far as stamina, she has been shown to be slammed up against brick walls after being thrown 10 feet through the air into them and get up and fight again. While Tam has taken out effectively hyped up on PCP humans, Buffy has taken on hordes of Demons. And while I haven't read the comics, they supposedly buffed her up even more in the comics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Re: Taming the Slayer Buffy got seven seasons and a movie. River got' date=' like, 7 episodes and a movie. Buffy has way, way more xp and would bring the noise.[/quote']Think you missed a few episodes of Firefly then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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