JmOz Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 How do you make a super hero, with no offensive capability, who was still useful in combat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Re: A Riddle: Well, I once conceived a character who had mental attacks that were only triggered when he was mentally attacked (or scanned, or whatever), but I never actually played him. But I'm not sure that's quite what you mean. Question: Does "useful in combat" refer only to fighting, or are there other considerations in play, like protecting normals and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Re: A Riddle: If in combat, i would go with things like aids, high defenses, missile deflection, things like that. If in combat but in a support role, I would go with abilities to help the injured, movement powers so forth CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Re: A Riddle: The Defender Protects self, others, bystanders The Healer Cares for self, others, bystanders The Enhancer Improves the capabilities of others The Transporter Rescues bystanders, gets others where they need to be Lucius Alexander The palindromedary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Re: A Riddle: I'd go with a Luck special effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opale Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Re: A Riddle: If by no attack you mean no power that inflict damages you can always use other abilities to neutralize your opponents. Much of them are mental powers or aid powers. For instance, I'm actually working on such a character : Queen of Heart Empathic Opale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Re: A Riddle: Battery Lad!! (Aid to END) (First suggested in Southern Knights) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Re: A Riddle: A guy with normal strength, no attack powers, but high defenses could draw fire from the enemy, thereby allowing his comrades to stand and fight longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teh bunneh Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Re: A Riddle: In my UNITY 2020 game, one of the players had a character named Mittarbeit (German for "cooperation") who had a huge variety of Aid powers. She was strictly a buffer; her role in combat was to juice up the other PCs, heal them when they got knocked down, that sort of thing. It worked OK in play. Not great, but OK. She was mostly satisfied with the character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teh bunneh Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Re: A Riddle: A guy with normal strength' date=' no attack powers, but high defenses could draw fire from the enemy, thereby allowing his comrades to stand and fight longer.[/quote'] What was that character's name in Champions 3000? "Bulletproof" or something like that? He was basically invulnerable, but didn't have any special powers beyond that. I played a character kind of like that in an online game (called her "The Shield"), but she had some superhuman strength (not quite Brick level) and a number of martial maneuvers that could kick up her damage to respectable levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Re: A Riddle: How do you make a super hero' date=' with no offensive capability, who was still useful in combat...[/quote'] Define "offensive". Do restraining attacks count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escafarc Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Re: A Riddle: A Teleport VPP makes for a character without normal combat skills that's still useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkham Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Re: A Riddle: How do you make a super hero' date=' with no offensive capability, who was still useful in combat...[/quote'] I have a character, Mr. Blackwings, who commands crows. While he isn't _totally_ lacking in offensive ability, a 6d6 Reduced Penetration AoE in a 12d6 game doesn't count for much. Instead, he used the crows to control the battlefield. -OCV and -DCV Change Environments were really useful in helping his teammates take down the villains. And after a few sessions working together, they could even buy the Environmental Movement: Crows to avoid the effects themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Re: A Riddle: I just thought of another concept I toyed with before, the ethereal tactician. Basically a ghost/astral projection/hologram that acts as a coordinator and source of info for the battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Re: A Riddle: Superhero Support The Transporter Hero The Healer The Illusionist or Hologram Caster The Booster The Information Supplier The Resource Provider/Government Liaison (Bases, Vehicles, Contacts, Money, etc...) The Investigator The Danger Sense/Precognition protagonist Hero The "I know a "guy/girl" The Conspiracy Theorist (Who happpens to be right?) The Sage/Fortune Teller/etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Re: A Riddle: The character in question is a doctor who takes the hipocratic oath very serious. Will not cause harm to others... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Re: A Riddle: The character in question is a doctor who takes the hipocratic oath very serious. Will not cause harm to others... Depends on the special effects of his powers. A lot has been thrown down for you. Entangles like Spider Man's webline could be used I guess. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Re: A Riddle: How does he feel about teammates doing damage? Does that bother him too much to stick around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Re: A Riddle: Not so much. She also works for the PD, but I decided on a chemist type power set, she has a bunch of darts, drains, blindness, ko, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin2 Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Re: A Riddle: The character in question is a doctor who takes the hipocratic oath very serious. Will not cause harm to others... Then why does he go around with a bunch of vicious heroes? He would have to stop the heroes hitting the villains? Sort of powers they could have: Healing all characteristics to some level for his friends (and their victims). Aid Body, Stun, Endurance, PE, ED, for his friends (if he is allowed to assist their violence on others by keeping them up longer). Darkness (it is harder to hit so less violence). Entangles. AOE mind control only to convince peopl enot to be violent (zone of carm)? Would forcing someone to not attack the person they realy want to hit count as an attack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Re: A Riddle: Then why does he go around with a bunch of vicious heroes? He would have to stop the heroes hitting the villains?Why do medics go out on the battlefield, instead of stopping the soldiers from going into battle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakboy6117 Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Re: A Riddle: Good plan my suggestion would have been providence one of the charcters I came up with for US50 her only power was extrodinary luck which protected her from all damage but she took out her foes by dodging out of the way of attacks of and. Luring her foes into damaging them selves by getting them to hit electrical junction boxes or fire hydrants propane tanks etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin2 Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Re: A Riddle: Why do medics go out on the battlefield' date=' instead of stopping the soldiers from going into battle?[/quote'] He is not just a medic though is he? He can be beyond the powers of any medic. Do army medics bear arms? Do they get weapon training and will they shoot an enemy if that enemy is about to shoot all of their patients? I do not think all of them will have the same compulsions as this character has as they may be tought to kill with weapon training if they really have to. But I could be wrong as I am not an army medic or know of any. So army medics are slightly differnet from this character. So the comment was to highlight that you have a character with the strong belief that violence is wrong associating with possibly very violent people who are trying to stop even more violent people. I hope this character has contact Shrink . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Re: A Riddle: And the character should also realize that the collateral damage has already started before they ever got there, and that their associates are trying to stop any more collateral damage. "To combat violence you need greater violence." Peter Hartman Nighthawks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Re: A Riddle: A hero who actually views violence as a last resort? Unthinkable! It seems like the character as described has a good array of non-lethal options that will be effective in combat. A character with no ability to do damage could still use barriers for defense and battlefield control. Characters like Nightcrawler and Kitty Pryde (the Vanisher; Elixir) lack the offensive punch of their teammates, and seem to work better in the comics than in game (where they generally get enough martial arts to do competitive damage). They're very useful out of combat, but most RPG's have a significant combat focus, so the player sits around bored. Entangle was mentioned - how will the Medic character react the first time the Entangled target is subjected to an array of co-ordinated multiple power attacks by his teammates? I think he needs appropriate game mentality - with all characters believing violence is a last resort, and should be applied in only the minimum necessary level to protect the innocent. A very defended character drawing fire could work, if the GM doesn't tactically ignore him since he's no threat to the villain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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