Old Man Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 I'm saddened by my own lack of surprise at your saddening due to your lack of surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 The Internet strikes another American institution. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/playboy-to-drop-nudity-as-internet-fills-demand/ar-AAfnWTw?li=BBgzzfc&ocid=UP97DHP I haven't actually looked at a Playboy in decades. So my views could be out of date. But there has always been this idea of "I only read it for the articles" being a joke. I always figured anyone who thought that was a joke was someone who never ever actually looked at the magazine. There WAS no other reason I could see to read it except for the articles and fiction. You could have taken the nudity and sexual matter out and 90% of the magazine would still be there and it would still have been a world class magazine. If I wanted sexy pictures, I looked at Cosmopolitan or at one of the men's magazines that really specialized in that sort of thing - which playboy didn't. So my reaction to the news they're dropping nudes is - who's going to miss 'em? I suspect they long ago passed the point at which having nudity was driving away more readers than it was drawing in. All they did was draw attention away from everything else the magazine had to offer. Lucius Alexander I doubt anyone reads my posts just looking for the palindromedary tagline either Ranxerox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 I must disagree. Yes, Playboy has had, and undoubtedly will continue to have, world class articles and fiction. But that wasn't the reason the magazine became such a huge hit. And it wasn't just the nudes in and of themselves that made Playboy a hit--granted, they were what got people's attention to begin with, and certainly there are more explicit images of female nudity, both still and moving, which can be found quite easily on the Internet or almost anywhere else. That does not mean there is not a place for Playboy in men's entertainment--or in society for that matter. One of the things that Playboy did when they first started photographing their own Playmates and models was that they depicted the women as enjoying sex and being with men as much the men enjoyed being with them. This was done through the choice of props to reflect, as I understand how Hefner put it, "the presence of a man." A necktie draped across a chairback, the woman wearing a man's shirt, two half-full cocktail glasses rather than one--all that and more (especially in the cartoons) were part of cultivating this idea, which at the time seemed quite revolutionary, and even in an age where it seems like everyone and her sister has a page on a webcam site, it's an idea which to my mind is still worthy of attention. I don't know what Playboy hopes to accomplish by getting rid of the idea that made it a hit in the first place, and no matter how they attempt to spin it, it still seems like a win for the anti-sex activists who have dogged Playboy since its inception. I remember an interview with Hefner in which he described the history of sexual liberation in America as being "two steps forward, one step backward." It always seemed to me like Hefner and Playboy were the ones leading the two steps forward, and I don't know who, if anyone, will take their place. Just my thoughts on the subject--take them as you will. Ranxerox and Lucius 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Will Playgirl still have nekkid guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Will Playgirl still have nekkid guys? Curiously, I'm not 100% sure that need has been fulfilled by the internet. (mostly cause I don't go looking) but I'm pretty sure it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnStrawberry Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 I was actually wondering the same when I heard this news on NPR. They can't very well say 'Playboy is all about the sophisticated content and we need to update it for the times' and in the same breath declare 'Playgirl? That's pure smut and is all about the nudie shots.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Actually, I have long suspected that Playboy will shut down once Hef dies. Just the magazine, not the rest of the conglomerate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Maybe--but Hefner does have two sons, Marston and Cooper, by his second wife Kimberly Conrad. Both of them are young adults and have dated Playmates in the past, It's possible they might step into his slippers and slip into his smoking jacket when the elder Hefner passes on, becoming the heirs to the Playboy spirit, if not the actual business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Woman sues her eight year old nephew for an over exuberant hug. Gets $0. that this went to a jury makes me sad. Could be an insurance issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/oct/12/john-le-carre-reveals-spying-secrets-memoir-pigeon-tunnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Could be an insurance issue. It is. It's easy and I'm sure fun to paint the woman as a villain and boo and hiss at her for suing her nephew, but the villain in the piece is the insurance company that offered one dollar towards her medical bills because they knew they could use an 8 year old boy for a legal human shield. Lucius Alexander And have you ever tried to insure a palindromedary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 https://www.vice.com/read/the-philippines-is-still-pissed-off-that-vancouver-is-using-it-as-a-giant-garbage-bin-vgtrn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 You're not allowed to dump anything on other folks! Though they are usually willing to make an exception for your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 I must disagree. Yes, Playboy has had, and undoubtedly will continue to have, world class articles and fiction. But that wasn't the reason the magazine became such a huge hit. And it wasn't just the nudes in and of themselves that made Playboy a hit--granted, they were what got people's attention to begin with, and certainly there are more explicit images of female nudity, both still and moving, which can be found quite easily on the Internet or almost anywhere else. That does not mean there is not a place for Playboy in men's entertainment--or in society for that matter. One of the things that Playboy did when they first started photographing their own Playmates and models was that they depicted the women as enjoying sex and being with men as much the men enjoyed being with them. This was done through the choice of props to reflect, as I understand how Hefner put it, "the presence of a man." A necktie draped across a chairback, the woman wearing a man's shirt, two half-full cocktail glasses rather than one--all that and more (especially in the cartoons) were part of cultivating this idea, which at the time seemed quite revolutionary, and even in an age where it seems like everyone and her sister has a page on a webcam site, it's an idea which to my mind is still worthy of attention. I don't know what Playboy hopes to accomplish by getting rid of the idea that made it a hit in the first place, and no matter how they attempt to spin it, it still seems like a win for the anti-sex activists who have dogged Playboy since its inception. I remember an interview with Hefner in which he described the history of sexual liberation in America as being "two steps forward, one step backward." It always seemed to me like Hefner and Playboy were the ones leading the two steps forward, and I don't know who, if anyone, will take their place. Just my thoughts on the subject--take them as you will. Yes, it was radical to present women as playMATES rather than playTHINGS - as sexual and social equals desiring sexual fulfillment and entitled to it. To present sex as a source of mutually beneficial pleasure rather than something men need to be ashamed of because it's a base and sinful compulsion inflicted upon reluctant women. And you are right that these are still radical ideas in need of attention, discussion, and even advocacy. The role of Playboy in the sexual revolution, and the nature of that revolution, like the civil rights movement, as a still ongoing struggle, could easily be the basis of its own thread. But I don't see this particular move on Playboy's part as "a win for the anti-sex advocates." If anything, it looks to me more like an acknowledgment that the front lines of the revolution have moved on. Lucius Alexander I'm not even going to try to explain to the palindromedary what we're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 11-Year-Old Girl's Stick Figure Helps Nab Burglary Suspect death tribble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 That is not of course a stick figure. I assume they used the facial hair as a guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 [bLEEP] Shooter Opens Fire at Crowded Florida ZombieCon Festival Killing One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Man dies in flight after biting another passenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 They found a long-lost chemistry lab designed by Thomas Jefferson. They did not use a map on the declaration of Independence. Nicholas Cage was not involved. http://gizmodo.com/thomas-jefferson-s-lost-chemistry-lab-found-hidden-behi-1737335642 tkdguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Firefighter rescue turns to romance. http://firelink.monster.com/news/articles/17297-firefighter-marries-the-woman-he-rescued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Not so much news as a letter to the Editor - But a nice story about a teenager helping a little girl learn to skateboard. http://www.thespec.com/opinion-story/5970308-thanks-for-helping-my-daughter-even-though-you-got-laughed-at/ death tribble and Ternaugh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 From the feel good to the WTF? The camerawoman who tripped fleeing refugees plans to sue a) Facebook and one of those she tripped. She's doubling down on it and still claims she's innocent because she tripped them out of fear....or something. http://mashable.com/2015/10/20/camerawoman-kick-refugee-sue-facebook/#abakf_BwYEqr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 ::insert facepalm gif/ascii art of choice here:: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 http://fortune.com/2015/09/24/ebook-sales/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Now all I have to do is finish my novel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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