death tribble Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 This is one of those things where you see what would have happened if you did not change events as they happen. Think of it like Groundhog Day. Until Bill Murray changes his behaviour he is trapped in the same day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, death tribble said: This is one of those things where you see what would have happened if you did not change events as they happen. Think of it like Groundhog Day. Until Bill Murray changes his behaviour he is trapped in the same day. So that's why Andie McDowell never seems to age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 By breaking the time loop, it makes more sense to me that Fitz is dead and that there is no future version to encounter (anymore). That "frozen in stasis" version was part of a time loop that is no longer part of the team's temporal trajectory. Also, would anyone care to guestimate how much time passed from the moment Talbot died in the vacuum of space to when Coulson stepped onto the sands of Tahiti with May? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 2 hours ago, zslane said: By breaking the time loop, it makes more sense to me that Fitz is dead and that there is no future version to encounter (anymore). That "frozen in stasis" version was part of a time loop that is no longer part of the team's temporal trajectory. Also, would anyone care to guestimate how much time passed from the moment Talbot died in the vacuum of space to when Coulson stepped onto the sands of Tahiti with May? Probably a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 7 hours ago, zslane said: By breaking the time loop, it makes more sense to me that Fitz is dead and that there is no future version to encounter (anymore). That "frozen in stasis" version was part of a time loop that is no longer part of the team's temporal trajectory. Also, would anyone care to guestimate how much time passed from the moment Talbot died in the vacuum of space to when Coulson stepped onto the sands of Tahiti with May? The frozen Fitz isn't a "future version", and that version wasn't eliminated when the time loop was broken, because his body was travelling to the future in essentially real-time.The "future version" was the one who died due to the rubble, and who came back from the alternate future with the rest of the team. *We are all travelling into the future, at a rate of 1 second per second**. Fitz's body is just being preserved while it happens, much like Captain America's was inside the glacier. **Well, except for any relativistic effects that may be experienced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Fitz can't be both in stasis and "back from the future" helping the team break the time loop at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Why not? Ninja-Bear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 48 minutes ago, zslane said: Fitz can't be both in stasis and "back from the future" helping the team break the time loop at the same time. According to that thinking the Austin Powers movie would make no sense at all. Oh . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, zslane said: Fitz can't be both in stasis and "back from the future" helping the team break the time loop at the same time. Yes he can. The Fitz that is in stasis is awaiting what is going to happen because the rest of the team are in the (now alternate) future. Enoch is also with him as he now will not be destroyed in the future. It can be a bit much to get your head around but it is what has happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, death tribble said: Yes he can. The Fitz that is in stasis is awaiting what is going to happen because the rest of the team are in the (now alternate) future. Enoch is also with him as he now will not be destroyed in the future. It can be a bit much to get your head around but it is what has happened. Of course Fitz would be in stasis if Enoch hadn't taken the team to the future in the first place. Maybe next season they can do what they did in Basic and said nothing you saw ever happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 I thought the writers of BASIC did that to upset those writing Cobol, Fortran etc ? Bazza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Well, as a rule, any story that relies on measurable mass travelling back in time is fundamentally flawed to begin with, especially so when it leads to multiple copies of any individual in the same "timeline". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 No-one ever raised this as a problem in Dr Who. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, death tribble said: No-one ever raised this as a problem in Dr Who. That's because the sets were a mix of Paper Mache and Tachyons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 So were some of the actors... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, Greywind said: So were some of the actors... Watch it. At least we have never had Adam Sandler in anything. Hugh Neilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, death tribble said: Watch it. At least we have never had Adam Sandler in anything. And if we correct the timeline, neither will we. Bazza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Sandler's not all bad. I liked Spanglish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 16 hours ago, Pattern Ghost said: Sandler's not all bad. I liked Spanglish. I liked Pixels. And now I'm banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 The villain on Flash was defeated becomes someone removed his batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, Cassandra said: And now I'm banned. Banned on the run... Lawnmower Boy and Armory 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Device Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has been renewed for two more seasons Pattern Ghost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 I'm very surprised by this news. I mean, every season had declining ratings, if I'm not mistaken, putting the show on the bubble every year. Why does Disney keep renewing it, even after ABC tried to cancel it? Another question I have is why doesn't Disney put this show on Disney Plus instead of on ABC? They need all the content they can scrounge for their new streaming service, and AoS seems like a better fit for that (than traditional broadcast tv). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 Fans don't agree. It's the most watched Marvel show. https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/agents-of-shield-most-viewed-marvel-show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 The important thing to remember though is that Cassandra won't like it whatever they do. Cassandra, Bazza and Pattern Ghost 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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