Bazza Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 My current theory is that She's the White Martian guard who saved M'gann, but the real M'gann didn't survive, so she's posing as her to honor her memory (and because White Martians don't have the best rep.) Good theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 I watched Young Justice season 1 but don't remember all the details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 My current theory is that She's the White Martian guard who saved M'gann, but the real M'gann didn't survive, so she's posing as her to honor her memory (and because White Martians don't have the best rep.) So basically Hank Henshaw Redux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 So basically Hank Henshaw Redux. It may not be a great theory, but seems to fit in with the show's general level of writing. Bazza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I still love me my Supergirl, but they really need to stop hitting everyone with the dumb stick. The lack of adequate crisis response to those three a**hats with the alien weapons of near-mass destruction was way beyond what can be reasonably ascribed to the "silly comic book logic" rationalization. That rationalization is what explains how James becomes an amateur crimefighter (while Winn reluctantly agrees to help him). It's not how you explain the fact that the DEO had zero response, zero effective leadership at the helm, zero coordination with SWAT or other paramilitary units, and nobody with any experience formulating an effective plan of action. Supergirl is a strong asset, to be sure, but even Alexander knew to go into battle with more than just his Companion Heavy Cavalry. And speaking of Supergirl, if she can aim her eye-beams with such accuracy as to hit another energy beam head-on, then she can also hit the user's hands and make him drop the weapon, or burn their hamstrings so they can't get away, or burn out the tires of the getaway vehicles, or any number of non-lethal solutions to the tactical problem of three mooks armed with horrifically powerful ranged weapons. At some point we are left with the suspicion that the writers simply hate us, the audience, and that they expect the sheer delight of Melissa Benoist to make all the stupidity acceptable. Sadly, they are sort of right, but that won't last forever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I've long thought that the writers need to be sat down at a game of Champions to learn some basic super combat tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I was also expecting Kara to draft Mon-El into service. I mean, those guys weren't robbing banks with SuperSoakers. There's almost no such thing as "too strong a response" to this particular crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Wow, they must've aired a completely different episode here than whatever you saw. Perfect? Not hardly. But I thought that was one of the most fun hours of superhero TV we're likely to see. Yeah, Kara needs to put some points into a Disarm maneuver, but blocking energy weapons with heat vision is about as classic comic book as you get. "Mark" trying to play human was cute without being annoying. We got to see a nice Supergirl-and-Kara-get-invited-to-the-same-party bit. OK, James' sudden vigilante streak was a little out of nowhere. But I thought Alex's coming-out-to-myself-maybe? speech was awkwardly authentic (or authentically awkward if you prefer) and well delivered. Plus, some major Knockback rolls, which is always fun. Plus, I think I'm developing a crush on Lena Luthor. I know it'll end badly. But there it is. I was also expecting Kara to draft Mon-El into service. I mean, those guys weren't robbing banks with SuperSoakers. There's almost no such thing as "too strong a response" to this particular crisis. I read that as equal parts unwilling to put him in danger, since he's weaker than her and not yet used to his powers, and being worried he might kill someone because he's not yet used to his powers. (Yeah, time for some training.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I'm willing to agree that we saw very different episodes. The parts you liked felt way too Smallville for me, to be honest. And I don't find Lena Luthor particularly attractive or interesting, but I guess that's just me. bigdamnhero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Plus, I think I'm developing a crush on Lena Luthor. I know it'll end badly. But there it is. Did you ever watch the BBC series Merlin? Katie McGrath was one of the stars. Nolgroth and Pattern Ghost 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolgroth Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Did you ever watch the BBC series Merlin? Katie McGrath was one of the stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Even though we knew she was destined to turn to the dark side on Merlin, we hated watching it. She was one of the highlights of the show. Especially her reactions to Emrys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Never actually saw Smallville, so I don't have that comparison. Never saw Merlin either - I think it's in my Netflix queue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolgroth Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Smallville had some good moments and well, some not so good moments. Michael Rosenbaum as Lex Luther was always one of those good moments to me and I would love to see him return as that character some day. It will not happen, I am sure, but it would be great. As far as I am concerned, not one other actor has captured the sort of ruthless efficiency of Lex Luthor as well as Rosenbaum. Maybe somebody in one of the animated shows, but I don't watch those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Smallville had some good moments and well, some not so good moments. Michael Rosenbaum as Lex Luther was always one of those good moments to me and I would love to see him return as that character some day. It will not happen, I am sure, but it would be great. As far as I am concerned, not one other actor has captured the sort of ruthless efficiency of Lex Luthor as well as Rosenbaum. Maybe somebody in one of the animated shows, but I don't watch those. Rpsembaum played the Flash in the animated Justice League. He switched bodies with Lex Luthor (voiced by Clancy Brown) in an episode of Justice League Unlimited. Taking the oppotunity to discover Flash's secret identity he removed his mask, looked in the mirror, and said "I have no idea who this is." Lord Liaden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I still love me my Supergirl, but they really need to stop hitting everyone with the dumb stick. The lack of adequate crisis response to those three a**hats with the alien weapons of near-mass destruction was way beyond what can be reasonably ascribed to the "silly comic book logic" rationalization. That rationalization is what explains how James becomes an amateur crimefighter (while Winn reluctantly agrees to help him). It's not how you explain the fact that the DEO had zero response, zero effective leadership at the helm, zero coordination with SWAT or other paramilitary units, and nobody with any experience formulating an effective plan of action. Supergirl is a strong asset, to be sure, but even Alexander knew to go into battle with more than just his Companion Heavy Cavalry. And speaking of Supergirl, if she can aim her eye-beams with such accuracy as to hit another energy beam head-on, then she can also hit the user's hands and make him drop the weapon, or burn their hamstrings so they can't get away, or burn out the tires of the getaway vehicles, or any number of non-lethal solutions to the tactical problem of three mooks armed with horrifically powerful ranged weapons. At some point we are left with the suspicion that the writers simply hate us, the audience, and that they expect the sheer delight of Melissa Benoist to make all the stupidity acceptable. Sadly, they are sort of right, but that won't last forever... Simple explaination PsyL: Overconfidence (Very Common/Moderate) Missile Deflection [All Ranged Attacks +5 [Eye Beams] bigdamnhero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 That might explain how she is able to use her heat vision to stop an energy beam, but it does not explain why she would think that more effective than disarming the attacker with said heat vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingly Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 One of the funniest in-jokes in any series. Rosenbaum played the Flash in the animated Justice League. He switched bodies with Lex Luthor (voiced by Clancy Brown) in an episode of Justice League Unlimited. Taking the opportunity to discover Flash's secret identity he removed his mask, looked in the mirror, and said "I have no idea who this is." Bazza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 That might explain how she is able to use her heat vision to stop an energy beam, but it does not explain why she would think that more effective than disarming the attacker with said heat vision. Because the heat vision is a Killing Attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 So? In HS parlance, a KA is merely an attack that bypasses resistant defenses. Against a normal with normal PD/ED, her punch is as deadly as her heat vision. The big difference is that her heat vision is a ranged attack with surgical precision. And I'm pretty sure we've seen her attenuate its energy output as necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 using it on an energy weapon might make it explode That might explain how she is able to use her heat vision to stop an energy beam, but it does not explain why she would think that more effective than disarming the attacker with said heat vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 using it on an energy weapon might make it explode Which is why I advocate using it on the wielder's hands/arms/whatever instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 maiming is something I think Supergirl would not want to do Which is why I advocate using it on the wielder's hands/arms/whatever instead. bigdamnhero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 maiming is something I think Supergirl would not want to do I don't think we have to worry about that on this show, and neither does Supergirl. The writers are in complete control over the consequences of every punch, every move-through, and every encounter with her heat vision. If they wished, they could have her use her heat vision on a thug's hands (to disarm him) without maiming him. He would drop his weapon, give a sharp yelp, and maybe wring his hands in pain a little, but this is Supergirl on the CW after all, not Game of Thrones on HBO. Nolgroth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Supergirl on Game of Theones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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