Old Man Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 7:58 PM, Michael Hopcroft said: I imagine an actual vibroblade would be like a very fast saw. tkdguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 The first time I remember seeing it in fiction, it was in a quasi dystopian city where the youth gangers had powered switchblades that buzzes and hums..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted January 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Another video on vibroblades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 On 8/9/2019 at 4:42 PM, DShomshak said: In the Lensman series, it was axes, not swords... super-heaqvy axes of advanced alloys, wielded by soldiers in powered armor. They were for boarding enemy spacecraft, for chopping through bulkheads (and enemy soldiers) without the risk of shooting through hulls or vital equipment. Dean Shomshak I'd have to dig for the books again, but I believe the axes were also for fighting under very specific conditions where other weapons were essentially useless (either in a hyperspatial tube or while inertialess). It's been a while... Scott Ruggels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted February 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 If swords will be used in battle, axes make sense too. Cutlasses and short-handled axes would make more sense inside a spaceship deck than long swords and battle axes. Scott Ruggels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Bushido Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Axes. Definitely. "Axe means best god." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoug Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 I think the best explanations for the inclusion of swords in a setting include magic. I don't mean that in a demeriting may, and I also don't accept "science magic," or rather, using a rather cursory interpretation of some very broad and disparate scientific concepts as an explanation for "The tech really did just advance all the way back around to swords." I'm talking about mystical magic. Magic that is purposefully left vague and purposefully made to function as magic achetypically. Stuff like The Force, Psionics, and The Spice (much of Dune is drenched in mysticism). If I were to approach this subject in my own worldbuilding, my solution would stick it's tongue in its cheek and say "I know I'm magic." I think I'd include Qi and Kung Fu, basically. Once widely known to be extremely deadly, Kung Fu could never match the speed, range, and flexibility of small arms combat, and so it slowly died out. Now that unpowered (not mechanized) armor has gotten to the point where small arms are ineffective against it, some are relearning the ancient arts of Kung Fu to gain an advantage in violent encounters. Kung Fu is combat of the Qi, and can only be defended against by Kung Fu. A sword strike charged with Qi would pass through armor, leaving it undamaged, and slice down the man inside it. If a Kung Fu user is caught without his armor, surrounded by people with guns, he would be in a bit of a pickle. tkdguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted February 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 Good point, but why not just play a fantasy game if you're going to include magic? I have a science fantasy setting that includes lightsabers (with the serial numbers filed off), but I use superscience instead of magic. Maybe Clarke's Law applies here. Scott Ruggels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 On 2/27/2020 at 9:36 PM, tkdguy said: Good point, but why not just play a fantasy game if you're going to include magic? I have a science fantasy setting that includes lightsabers (with the serial numbers filed off), but I use superscience instead of magic. Maybe Clarke's Law applies here. Magic? Science? I'm the one with the Boom stick! tkdguy and Scott Ruggels 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 This guyhttp://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/09/the-man-who-fought-in-wwii-with-a-sword-and-bow/ pawsplay, tkdguy and Tjack 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 IIRC there have been one or two documented bayonet kills in Afghanistan. Tomahawks were all the rage there too for a while, mainly for their usefulness in breaching mud huts; I don't know if any were successfully used in combat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 You only need one knife -- Stridsmora 90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted March 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 I can totally do a sword and planet type of game based on this: Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 On 3/15/2020 at 9:01 PM, tkdguy said: I can totally do a sword and planet type of game based on this: Fake rifle doesn't look like it weighs twenty pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Still works for rpg purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Bushido Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Old Man said: Fake rifle doesn't look like it weighs twenty pounds. How else do you simulate being twelve over the STR Min for the weapon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 That’s a short horse isn’t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted March 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Probably closer to a Shetland pony. But if I were to make a game, it could be a lizard or dinosaur of some kind. Or maybe.... https://www.deviantart.com/wetcorps/art/Ostrich-Rider-259687833 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 21, 2020 Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 23 hours ago, Ninja-Bear said: That’s a short horse isn’t it? Slow too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted March 21, 2020 Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 War slugs! Lol The Big ones have howda's for big guns and or thrones for kings/queens.... tkdguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeropoint Posted March 22, 2020 Report Share Posted March 22, 2020 I'm surprised that the reach of the rifle + bayonet isn't giving that guy more of an edge than it seems to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Ruggels Posted March 22, 2020 Report Share Posted March 22, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 2:15 PM, Old Man said: Fake rifle doesn't look like it weighs twenty pounds. It's not. it's a mokujū which is a slightly abstracted form of the Japanese Type 38 Rifle and Type 30 Bayonet combo, which even at full weight was only 9lbs. (10 with the bayonet). I have two of these in my closet (with the bayonet), and it's got a lot of reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Ruggels Posted March 22, 2020 Report Share Posted March 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, Zeropoint said: I'm surprised that the reach of the rifle + bayonet isn't giving that guy more of an edge than it seems to be. From Wikipedia: The Type 38 at 1,280 mm (50.4 in) was the longest rifle of the war, due to the emphasis on bayonet training for the Japanese soldier of the era, whose average height was 160 centimeters (5 ft 3 in).[7] The rifle was even longer when the 400 mm (15.75 inches) Type 30 bayonet was fixed. The Type 38 was fairly heavy, at about 4.25 kg. That means a total length of around 65 in. from butt to tip of the blade. I think the Mokuju may be a little shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 22, 2020 Report Share Posted March 22, 2020 13 hours ago, pinecone said: War slugs! Lol The Big ones have howda's for big guns and or thrones for kings/queens.... Yeah! Or even giant worms that can tunnel in areas of loose sand... This sparring session would be a lot different if the saber used were mounted on a war rhino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 1/16/2020 at 9:32 PM, Old Man said: Vibro blades seem a bit meh. I also find the bat'leth of the Klingons about as impractical as you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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