A.I is here and it will make the world worse.

[Pattern Ghost]

On 5/29/2023 at 3:54 PM, Trencher said:

 

Another bad note is that the AI dont let you create sexy pictures

 

www.dezgo.com has several models, not as restricted as other AI models in that regard. The output seems to be PG-rated.

 

On 5/29/2023 at 3:54 PM, Trencher said:

the only commision artist that will not be run broke by access to endless amount of cheap crap AI pictures are the ones that draw porn! 

 

Hey, they have to eat, too.

 

22 hours ago, Michael Hopcroft said:

AI art, which works by piecing together images from the Internet willy-nilly into your request,

 

This isn't how it works, though.

Edited May 30, 2023 by Pattern Ghost

[Trencher]

Lets do the math. 

2100 galleries lets say hundred pictures each. Thats twenty one thousand pictures.

Making some pics now I easily made 84 picture in under three minutes. 

Take into consideration I did it now when the servers are slowest. And I was not working fast. Lets round it down to 80 per three minutes. 

21000/80 is 262.5 or lets say 300 for ease.

So that means 900 minutes was the absolute maximum time it took to make these galleries. Thats 15 working hours. 

An real artist can easily use 15 days on one masterpiece or atleast can easily work for 15 hours on one picture, as 15 hours is 3 working days. A bare minimum for a commission I would say. 

 

This is one important part of my point. The sheer quantity of A.I work will out-compete new up and coming real artists. 

7 minutes ago, Pattern Ghost said:

Hey, they have to eat, too.

So does other artists as well. 

[Sociotard]

AI is not bad when you aren't picky about the specifics. I am frequently annoyed by the things I can't persuade it to do. I had an idea for a fantasy landscape where the sun was a wolf or a shark. I liked the idea of watching it (with appropriate glasses) slowly stride across the sky. It might have been a fun option for the Fantasy Worldbuilding draft.

 

Except Midjourney was way to fixated on the idea that the sun is a circle. Naturally the answer is to not mention the sun itself. Just talk about how bright the shark is

Radiant FlareShark in OrangeSky, in the style of luminous suffusion, flying, landscape :: Sun CircleSun ::-0.2 --ar 16:9 --v 5.1

 

I even tried getting a nice sunset from Midjourney, then photobashing it to make a Shark Sun. It didn't look great, but sometimes adding an image prompt helps Midjourney get the idea:

 

It didn't help! No sun sharks. Just flying sharks across the sun

help

 

I even tried testing to get a square sun, or any abnormal shape. Impossible! But any artist who could make a nice landscape could make a shark sun.

 

Some things have been tricky, but not impossible. Mysterious pyramids that float upside down in the air? It took a lot of work, but I got a couple. Not consistently, but I got them. A cyclops (monster not mutant)? Mostly fails.

 

And all this aside from the difficulty getting a consistent character. No, MJ can help a real artist get ideas. That's all.

[Sociotard]

Oh, and this one isn't mine either, but it does illustrate the mistakes AI still makes.

Edited May 31, 2023 by Sociotard

[DentArthurDent]

I’ve seen several people make beautiful copies of Van Gogh’s “Starry Night”. There are a couple that I like even better than the original. If they burn the original, is Van Gogh still the artist?

[Ternaugh]

I spent much of my childhood with a reproduction of Gainsborough's The Blue Boy hanging in the living room. While that copy was probably painted somewhere around 1900, you can purchase brand new reproductions painted in oil right now. Some reproductions can be worth a fortune. Some are worth a few hundred bucks, with shipping.

[Ragitsu]

No matter how advanced artificial intelligence becomes, it will never replace any of you.

Edited May 31, 2023 by Ragitsu

[Logan D. Hurricanes]

I could be replaced with a trained monkey. 

 

 

A really good one. 

[unclevlad]

36 minutes ago, Logan D. Hurricanes said:

I could be replaced with a trained monkey. 

 

 

I was.

[Cygnia]

Lawyer cited 6 fake cases made up by ChatGPT; judge calls it “unprecedented

[Logan D. Hurricanes]

[unclevlad]

Mmm, Logan, this won't be a sigh of exasperation from the judge.  Or the partners of the law firm.  The lawyer's probably out of a job, or at least a greatly reduced position in the firm.  Not sure what options the judge has for sanctions;  from the sound of it, the git is seriously remorseful and hideously embarassed he messed up SOOO badly, so I don't see full disbarment.

 

But hey, how many times have any of us cited totally BS Wikipedia info?

 

What I'd like to know is how the HECK ChatGPT threw out false citations.  It also tends to show me that it really isn't anything close to a true AI.

 

EDIT:  Couple things from the comments...

 

1.  I rather like this one.  "Been working as lawyer for 30 years, eh? Seems like it might be time to retire, go fishing, and step away from the courtroom."

 

2.  LOTS of the comments were for disbarment.  Another one pointed out that the client should be IRATE.  The legal malpractice is pretty much sewn up.  The issue would be how far it can be carried forward;  the other associates are likely toast, but this may well carry up to the partners.  And...well...if you're gonna sanction the whole firm...and the lawyer isn't a rooke......well...maybe disbarment is more in the picture than I thought.

[Sociotard]

Eating Disorder Helpline Disables Chatbot for 'Harmful' Responses After Firing Human Staff (After Human Staff Voted to Unionize)

[dmjalund]

2 hours ago, Sociotard said:

Eating Disorder Helpline Disables Chatbot for 'Harmful' Responses After Firing Human Staff (After Human Staff Voted to Unionize)

this is a lie. the chatbot also wanted to unionize

[DShomshak]

Browsing DeviantArt, I've seen some very pretty pieces that were supposedly generated by AI. Nothing I'd call moving, but that describes just about everything else I've seen on DeviantArt too, even the best. AI seems good enough at present to handle, say, RPG illustration. At least when partnered with someone who knows how to use it.

 

Which is still something, I suppose. As Sociotard's examples show, the public systems still seem, hm, limited and erratic.

 

Personbally, I made a brief attempt with Stable Diffusion to get an illustration of one of my favorite old characters. Morningstar was a demi-demon whose Hero ID form is a classic Fantasy satyr. He had some energy powers, but for close combat he used Tae Kwon Do. So I asked Stable Diffusion to give me "a satyr doing Tae Kwon Do." And it just gave me pictures of humans doing Tae Kwon Do... usually with extra arms or legs. I soon tired of trying different phrasings and quit.

 

Like Sociotard, I would like to generate illustrations for the next World Creation Superdraft, 'cuz people like the purty pitchurs, but I doubt that will be possible. I'll just have to hope I can scrounge up something close to what I'd like to describe.

 

Dean Shomshak

[Sociotard]

Mixing in animal parts is notoriously difficult. I managed to get a few good centaurs, but it was very hard. I saw this illustration a few days ago of a bear with sharks for arms. Fun! There's no way AI could do that.

[Cygnia]

Go Ahead and Make Your AI Recipe. It Won’t Be Good.

[Duke Bushido]

I straight up don't care.

 

I do not mean this to offend or belittle anyone who does, but look at this from further back-  look at it from where 90-something percent of us stand: 

 

How the Hell did we get here?  At what point did we secide to aim for a future in which a 63-year-old man with a half-dead enlarged heart with two blown valve's works two jobs (with more manual labor that he did in his youth)while married to an RN with a pedigree longer than his arm, just to barely make the astronomical bills and maybe-  if he's really lucky- have just enough saved at the end of the year to buy. Christmas presents for those he loves and start all over again January 1, hooing he can save enough by April to cover his taxes, all while realizing that his retirement plan is the same as his healthcare plan: if I get really lucky, I can make it to 75 before I did on the job--

 

While computers and AI sit around writting stories and painting pictures?

 

What the Hell kind of absolute dystopian crap _is_ this?!  How did we get here?!

 

 

Why are so damned many people acting like this is perfectly normal, acceptable-- expected, even!--?!

 

Talking about how amazing it is?

 

Is this the world we wanted?  Then why are we so tickled by all this?  What's thw practical upshot?  When it's perfected, we can replace the entire artisan class, freeing up more laborers to chuck under the logs so we can build even more stone temples to the handful if people who will never be affected by it?

 

 

This is so far beyond stupid as a societal development that I question the absolute sanity of any primate who doesn't live in a treetop somewhere in the jungle.

 

 

[Ragitsu]

14 minutes ago, Duke Bushido said:

I straight up don't care.

 

Methinks the remainder of the post doth protest.

[Duke Bushido]

You're right.  You caught me.  I care.  It is super-important to me that this continue to be worked on and refined.  It's critical to my well-being to stay abreast of every little tweak and success and failure.

 

I thrive on knowing this is going to work,

 

How could you tell?

 

 

 

 

[Ragitsu]

The answer to your grievance goes way beyond the subject of artificial/electronic intelligence; as politics are involved, I will refrain from elucidating.

[Bazza]

I will…mention that as someone who is tracking these trends (the modernism worldview & free-trade economics) through history, this is the result. So called AI is but one outgrowth from this. 

[Lord Liaden]

On 5/30/2023 at 11:53 AM, Logan D. Hurricanes said:

Right now, we're still in the amusement stage. What if the US Presidents were professional wrestlers? Nobody's going to commission that, but it is an amusing idea, nonetheless. Nobody's taking that too seriously. 

 

 

Ahem.

 

[Pattern Ghost]

On 5/30/2023 at 4:16 PM, Trencher said:

This is one important part of my point. The sheer quantity of A.I work will out-compete new up and coming real artists. 

 

One artist mentioned that AI could easily replace lower level/entry level concept artists, when you just need to generate a bunch of concepts quick. So, that's also a real impact.

 

However, it won't replace the experienced artist. It'll just stifle newer artists so they can't get to be experienced artists, then we'll eventually have all soulless AI art as the older generation of experienced artists die off.

 

That, or artists will find a way to use AI to their advantage and adapt.

 

We'll find out eventually which is the case.

[Pattern Ghost]

On 5/31/2023 at 11:48 PM, DShomshak said:

satyr doing Tae Kwon Do

From DreamShaper6 model on dezgo.com.

 

 

satyr doing Tae Kwon Do, beard horns, pointed ears, hooves, same model as above

 

satyr doing Tae Kwon Do, beard horns, pointed ears, hooves, hairy goat legs, also DreamShaper 6

 

The AIs just can't quite wrap their heads around those goat legs lol