Ragitsu Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nucThought i'd post this here, as it seems especially relevant. sinanju 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I remember seeing that video before. It spooked me a little because, near as I could tell, it was dead on, and it really shouldn't be that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Saw this, and I just had to shake my head at how tone deaf it seemed. What about telling them to be careful about keeping their hands empty and in full view with no sudden movements so you don't just shoot them, officer? should we tell them that? I'm sorry, but a parents responsibility is to protect his or her child, not the feelings of what may or may not be a decent law enforcement officer. So increasingly, at least in some cities, and particularly if I were a minority, I'm pretty sure I WOULD be warning my theoretical kids about police interaction. I might not word it as harshly as I would to an adult "They can kill you when you've done nothing and walk away scot-free in our current system" would probably be too harsh (if true), but the "Keep your hands empty, in full view, and make no sudden movements"? Definitely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I remember seeing that video before. It spooked me a little because, near as I could tell, it was dead on, and it really shouldn't be that way. I imagine the information within is only more pertinent in the present (2015). There are even retired police officers (detectives, no less!) that give advice along the same lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Here is a lovely story of our wonderful D**** in blue: Off Duty Officer Attempted to Flee after Choking a NYC Subway Conductor. For his punishment, I am going to guess he will have to work at his desk for a month or two - ya know, so that justice can be served. La Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Well, in for a penny, in for a pound I guess: Off Duty Boston Cop Assaults Uber driver and then steals his car. Oh, and when he is tracked down, he proceeds to assault the Uber driver again. Because, ya know, it takes a couple beatings before people learn to respect 'authoritah!' On the good side, though, this jerk has been arrested. On the bad side, I am willing to bet he will only be asked to refrain from publicly beating other people in the future. I mean, we wouldn't want him to stop beating people, just do it when there is plausible deniability like all the other 'good' cops do. La Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2015/01/protestor-arrested-recording-violent-arrest-tasering-walmart-parking-lot/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roter Baron Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Seeing and reading all this really makes you (in this case: Me a foreigner) think about the percentage of goons in the US police-force ... Or is it as they used to say about New York City: The police is nothing but another gang .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Impudite Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Okay, let me get this straight: An off duty cop, not even in uniform no less, assaults and batters an innocent person for no good reason and is not currently languishing in a jail cell?! I realize this is New York Sh*tty we're talking about, but Whiskey Tango Foxtrot just the same. gewing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneDaddy Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Nah that's Boston. Police there are in a competition with NYC, NOLA and LA to see who can be the ungovernably corrupt in the nation. gewing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I think Marcus was talking about the story before that, where the off-duty cop attacked a NYC subway conductor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Impudite Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 As a matter of fact, that's exactly who I was talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 This is beyond police brutality, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Was that a no knock warrant? Was it on the wrong address? The Young Derps don't say in the first two or three minutes and I can't get through the rest of it. No knock warrants either need serious accountability or to be completely eliminated in any case. bigbywolfe and Vurbal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 It's insane how frequently "no knock" warrants are doled out when a little more investigation might have obviated the need for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Was that a no knock warrant? Was it on the wrong address? The Young Derps don't say in the first two or three minutes and I can't get through the rest of it. No knock warrants either need serious accountability or to be completely eliminated in any case. I'm almost positive it was a no-knock warrant. The guy they were going after was wanted for murder, for shooting and killing a teen two days before. I know it was technically the wrong address -- it's a two-story house split into two separate apartments, with two separate exterior doors at opposite ends of the front porch - one door leading upstairs to the flat they were raiding, and the other opening into the ground floor where the girl was shot and killed. The officers went in both doors during the raid. What gets me about this is that they were filming the raid for a reality show (A&E's "The First 48"). A Special Response Team (basically SWAT) conducted the raid, using flashbangs and SMGs. Unfortunately, the TV show cameras were outside and didn't get the shooting on film, so it comes down to he-said, she-said -- the officer (Joseph Weekley) said the girl's grandmother jumped up and smacked his gun, causing him to pull the trigger and shoot the girl. The grandmother says she was on the floor when the gun went off. Weekley is no green cop. During the first trial, he said he's served 300 warrants during his seven years on the SRT at the time of the shooting, and has been first man through the door for about 100 of those. So this is somebody quite experienced. And has appeared multiple times on "The First 48." The cynical side of me is wondering whether the raid being filmed had an effect on the mindset and conduct of officers conducting the raid. Something like, "Gotta make this look good - it's gonna be on national TV." gewing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 I don't know if this falls here, or in other news, but kernersville police had to give back 20k in illegally seized money according to yesterday's Journal. A couple of things stood out to me, but the major one was the judge who signed the order to give back the money asked the lead officer if he had probable cause to seize the money, and they didn't according to the officer. They just did. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roter Baron Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 TV cameras have no business in being at a police raid! This whole "reality" show bullshit has to go since it has nothing to do with getting the public involved or controlling the conduct of law-enforcement officers but everything with ratings and vouyerism and officers who are openly or matter-of-factly encouraged to "show" the audience how tough the job is and how they show the criminals the power of the law. In each instance good law-enforcement goes out of the window! Disgusting! And an invasion of the privacy of citizens who are at least to be given the doubt if they are perps or not before their faces are on every screen in the nation. BoneDaddy and Nolgroth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Impudite Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 One of "New York's Finest" (sarcasm quotes) broke up a snowball fight at gunpoint. Yes, you heard me right. a cop pulled his gun on teens having a f@#$ing snowball fight. Really? Gee, back when I was demonling me and my friends got in a lot of snowball fights during the winter, who knew we were such a menace to society... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 One of "New York's Finest" (sarcasm quotes) broke up a snowball fight at gunpoint. Yes, you heard me right. a cop pulled his gun on teens having a f@#$ing snowball fight. Really? Gee, back when I was demonling me and my friends got in a lot of snowball fights during the winter, who knew we were such a menace to society... From the epicTimes video that seems to catch a police officer pointing a gun at teenagers who having a snowball fight is a very different situation than it appears, say the cops. According to police, officers in New Rochelle, New York responded to a 911 call saying a teenager had pulled a gun from his waistband and pointed it at someone. When the cops arrived one of the individuals adjusted something in his waistband and took off. That’s where the video begins, say police. And a decade, maybe a decade and a half ago, I would have automatically believed the police. Now, not so much. I want evidence of the 911 call in question and more. Otherwise, the cop's word is no more good than the teenager's to me. Yeah, I've gotten to where I'll believe 'A' policeman if I know him, just like I might anyone I know. Other than that, no. I won't automatically think he's lying either, but my trust in the police as a title is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Impudite Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Cops lie their @$$es off all the damn time, take anything they say with a grain--no, strike that--a 50 billion ton rock of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Come on, it is the police. That isn't a rock of salt. La Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Impudite Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 No knock warrants either need serious accountability or to be completely eliminated in any case. I vote eliminated. No Knocks are a disaster waiting to happen regardless of any supposed "accountability," and that much assumes they actually make sure they're raiding the right house; most of these numbskulls can't even be bothered with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted February 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 And a decade, maybe a decade and a half ago, I would have automatically believed the police. Now, not so much. I want evidence of the 911 call in question and more. Otherwise, the cop's word is no more good than the teenager's to me. Yeah, I've gotten to where I'll believe 'A' policeman if I know him, just like I might anyone I know. Other than that, no. I won't automatically think he's lying either, but my trust in the police as a title is gone. Did you folks hear that sound? It was a rather distinct whoosh. Correct: the genie has been let out of the bottle. There's no telling if we'll ever manage to wrangle it back inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Impudite Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Did you folks hear that sound? It was a rather distinct whoosh. Correct: the genie has been let out of the bottle. There's no telling if we'll ever manage to wrangle it back inside. If it's a Djinn like in Wishmaster, than I shall wish my fellow demon happy hunting... Ragitsu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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