Lord Liaden Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Is Destruction Company (from High-Tech Enemies, IIRC) still part of the CU? They were favorite foes of my players. There's been no mention of them in any official source to date. Not saying they couldn't be added in future, although I don't know if the Champions IP rights include them. They're probably my favorite Champs "theme" villains, due to their common motif and matching costumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acroyear II Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 I think Frizbee and Sledge were both listed as casualties of one of the vigilante heroes i.e. a punisher type killed them. In the 4th Edition timeline, Frisbee was killed by the vigilante Sniper. Sledge was killed by VIPER agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted March 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 You know, considering politics in America, you would think they could use Sparkler more. Be a force for 'good' against those who would abuse Mexican Imagrints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I use sledge still, member of a thug for hire villain team. So the rumors of his demise are incorrect, sounds like someone else I know of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCold Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 The Midas Complex from an AC issue - Goldrush the speedster, Goldmind the mentalist and Goldbrick the.... brick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 The Midas Complex from an AC issue - Goldrush the speedster, Goldmind the mentalist and Goldbrick the.... brick. Gilt complex. (pun for how paper thin they were defense wise) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 I played with the CalTech crew that wrote up Enemies 3 a few had drifted away before I joined up with them in 85 and played with them till 2010 when the game moved from Pasadena to Long Beach and it became too long of a drive for me (Ren faire was also taking up a lot of my life,still is) Dennis Mallonee was one of the main GMs That group put out Enemies 3 The Great Supervillain Contest Coriolis Effect Andy Robinson did Primus and DEMON (boy was he surprised when I showed him my copy of DEMON :servants of darkness) Challenges for Champions Dave Berge Andy Robinson and Barry Wilson did Magic Items a lot of those characters belonged to others(a few where even heroes ,not villains(Red Rapier,Beamline) Ownership went back to the creators, and DOJ did not seek to regain them Lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 I'd love to rejoin and play w/ them but Faire and having to adult is all I have right nowthere is some online stuff I do Lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 a lot of those characters belonged to others(a few where even heroes ,not villains(Red Rapier,Beamline) I thought Beamline was always a villain--once he got his powers he began a campaign to turn America into a scientific oligarchy. That's how I remember him from Enemies III and Classic Enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Beamlines creator ,Eric Christian always played him as a hero at Caltech when he was with ushis character was played that scientists should be incharge ,but not to the point of revolution he was a hero first and complained about idiot polititians I thought Beamline was always a villain--once he got his powers he began a campaign to turn America into a scientific oligarchy. That's how I remember him from Enemies III and Classic Enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Beamlines creator ,Eric Christian always played him as a hero at Caltech when he was with us his character was played that scientists should be incharge ,but not to the point of revolution he was a hero first and complained about idiot polititians Nice to see that some villains can be played as heroes without stretching the concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Beamlines creator ,Eric Christian always played him as a hero at Caltech when he was with us his character was played that scientists should be incharge ,but not to the point of revolution he was a hero first and complained about idiot polititians I am reminded of a quote attributed to Issac Asimov, which paraphrases another famous quote by Georges Clemenceau--"Science is too important a matter to be left to the scientists." So how did he get along with the "less intelligent" members of the hero team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 if you pulled a stupid maneuver ,you where dead to himif you really screwed up the plan he might attack you I am reminded of a quote attributed to Issac Asimov, which paraphrases another famous quote by Georges Clemenceau--"Science is too important a matter to be left to the scientists." So how did he get along with the "less intelligent" members of the hero team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Anyone interested in a separate thread about thought tossing about taking a past edition villain and updating them to 6ed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 I believe he is speaking on how a scientist would suffer from tunnel vision on a projectalso morality might get lost or in the way of the big pictureand yes the A-bomb has it's pluses and minuses I am reminded of a quote attributed to Issac Asimov, which paraphrases another famous quote by Georges Clemenceau--"Science is too important a matter to be left to the scientists." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchpad Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 To misquot Tony Clifton (I think...whatever the name of Andy Koffman's lounge singer character), " You want to see Deathstroke? Gets shovel." That is not mentioned to be cruel, but remember that your playing a role playing game based on comic books. Death doesn't have to be the end of the dead members. In my 5th ed campaign, they were still alive and causing problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Steel Commando from CV 3 could be used as a replacement for Death Commando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Genocide's anti-mutant role in the CU has been superseded by the Institute for Human Advancement (IHA). IHA makes much more sense than Genocide: even for comic-book supervillain group, I think the group works much better with a more "PR Friendly" name that doesn't quite mask their true agenda. I could name a few dozen Real Life examples, but I don't want to veer into NGD territory... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 The thing is, it was pretty standard for villains to be very up front and announce their villainy. The brotherhood of Evil Mutants, for example. We're evil. Deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Yeah, that's the thing: we're dealing with the conventions of a comic-book world. We accept certain images and tropes that would seem odd or silly in real life, because they've accumulated acceptance in our consciousness over the years. I mean, the Champions Universe still has many people working for groups called VIPER and DEMON. "Genocide" is a perfect description of what the core group stands for, and would not put off their committed members. These are fanatics who believe "normal humans" are in a war for survival against the emerging superhuman mutant "species," and intend to wipe mutants out before the mutants wipe them out. In my own CU-based campaign I've used the Institute for Human Advancement, and the Pure Earth Society (from the 4E The Mutant File), as front groups for Genocide, raising funds, affecting public opinion, and lobbying for legislation. These groups mostly recruit moderate members with more reasonable concerns about mutants, but also sift through that membership to find the extremists, who are inducted into the true Genocide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 I transformed Genocide many editions back. The IHA became the politically correct face and Project Genocide became the secret extremist splinter group. Purifier from Champions of the North became head of another "splinter group" called Project Purifier. Agents with Enhanced Cybernetic Augmentations drawn from ex-military, law enforcement, and regular Agents maimed by Superhumans, Extraterrestrials, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Granted, Evil League Of Evil-type naming is a comics trope. I just thought calling themselves Genocide was a bit over the top even by that standard. YMMV of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 The New Deathstroke: After hiding since escaping Stronghold the brothers have recruited new members are ready to plaque the world once again. The line up of the New Deathstroke is: Requiem Frost Jade Phoenix Steel Commando Stiletto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 I transformed Genocide many editions back. The IHA became the politically correct face and Project Genocide became the secret extremist splinter group. Purifier from Champions of the North became head of another "splinter group" called Project Purifier. Agents with Enhanced Cybernetic Augmentations drawn from ex-military, law enforcement, and regular Agents maimed by Superhumans, Extraterrestrials, etc... I did much the same, "Genocide" is a stalking horse for the "real" organisation, that currently goes by "Omega". Genocide is intended to galvanise mutants into forming militias so that when Genocide is "destroyed", they can hype up the new mutant peril...a mutant "army" just might get federal funding for a "counter mutant" Primus spin off. Then a "state of emergency", and the new scientific elite can take power. I also went with Cyborgs, many converted unwillingly, others upgraded after a mutant harmed them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 The New Deathstroke: After hiding since escaping Stronghold the brothers have recruited new members are ready to plaque the world once again. The line up of the New Deathstroke is: Requiem Frost Jade Phoenix Steel Commando Stiletto Nice! What sort of villany will they be getting into? More Epic Threats? Or "Lets get naughty"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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