Cygnia Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 RNC trashed for stacking the deck against any candidate not named Donald Trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 Since this can't NOT be political... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/06/climate/climate-change-record-heat.html?unlocked_article_code=wo98WEZJps6XJR85o1l_nRHnh1hZduO8bhPpYwOQoscExQBX9XMWe7jvw_SilODRQSQLA7eBD-7-JX-kqSNSZrzrABZjE6u2NPw364oEoPxrzOr7Ypwr-eEJK8eo6qhtP4d62b5_E9j4g_fIhufmvL2KxKQizivdlMplfvykg6nQWxqaaWGPuJJdO34JNgK1hYSK6fQSv4ERYLGrfydN0Jxyzg9k7Ku5jxm_4WEFTwZIHbwQhYLXKfiw5sbnPvVdvHXbHbNaSUlnEEUZK0FLpLQtDHQbcblaeE5uCdSsYnrGzRdD-oFjgiSjV1_t51JJfc4FQcwjWiNm19oJ_p3nS7CFpxOA&smid=url-share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Cygnia said: RNC trashed for stacking the deck against any candidate not named Donald Trump I don't agree with Ms. Hoover. The standards to get up on the debate stage may be high, but Trump isn't the only one that can meet them. Ultimately, the more candidates that are on the stage, the more it favors Donald Trump. Trump has his voters locked in, and it works to his advantage to have a whole bunch of candidates fighting for the rest of the voters. That leads to a bunch of candidates with really low poll numbers for Trump to tower over. Ideally, it would be best from the standpoint of defeating Trump, if in the primaries he was running against a single, conservative, charismatic candidate who is not a Trump clone. Failing that it would be best for only a small group of rival candidates to share the stage, so as to make it relatively easy for one to break free from the pack and establish themselves as the Trump alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted July 7, 2023 Report Share Posted July 7, 2023 What TAKES so freaking long???? Just under 4 years ago, a self-described white nationalist and hatemonger drove 10 hours to open fire at the Wal Mart in El Paso, ultimately killing 23 people. Today, after only a 3 day trial where he pled guilty to 90 (!) counts including murder and hate crime charges, he was sentenced to 90 consecutive life terms. He was caught. He flat out said "I'm the shooter." But it still took just under 4 years. He showed little or no remorse. These were federal charges. Texas is going to prosecute on state charges...and they will seek the death penalty. Generally I think that's a bit pointless, myself, but...it's been some time since I've heard of someone who deserves it more, so I'm ok with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 So, DeSantis is being a bell-end again... Florida announces restrictions on Vermont licenses Quote Florida Governor Ron DeSantis announced the passing of a law that could render driver’s licenses and other forms of identification from several states invalid, including Vermont.Florida Senate Bill 1718 is considered to be a policy to crack down on illegal immigration, attempting to prevent the use of publicly funded services by those who may not pay taxes. As of July 1, in addition to Vermont, four other states’ IDs will face extra scrutiny from police, as they may provide forms of identification to applicants who do not give proof of citizenship or legal status: Delaware Connecticut Hawaii Rhode Island The law directs Florida police officers to write a ticket to anyone they pull over who has what is now recognized as an invalid license. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Cygnia said: So, DeSantis is being a bell-end again... Florida announces restrictions on Vermont licenses This seems legally problematic from a Article IV, section 1 of the Constitution perspective. Section 1. Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof. So they can do that, but I’m not sure how it will play out (and honestly I’m not certain they’re sure about that either, this feels pretty political rather than a basis for legal proceedings). Ranxerox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 DeSantis's rubber-stamp legislature has repeatedly passed legislation that couldn't withstand legal challenge, or which has had unintended consequences. Ronnie appears to have staked his career on political posturing rather than on actually doing anything. Pariah and Logan D. Hurricanes 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 I wonder just how much taxpayer money DeSantis has burned, defending challenges to his actions. Similarly, how much loss of business. The big, glaring one is the Disney HQ relocation that now isn't happening, but he's antagonizing MANY groups. The bill also suggests that if you look like you MIGHT be an immigrant? You're more likely to be hassled by the police. Granted, this might already exist, but if nothing else, it's reinforcement that Florida is likely to be uncomfortable for many people of color. I wonder what other Republican politicos think of him...in private. Cuz he feels like a serious embarrassment...especially if the stunts he's been trying, fall apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, unclevlad said: I wonder just how much taxpayer money DeSantis has burned, defending challenges to his actions. Similarly, how much loss of business. The big, glaring one is the Disney HQ relocation that now isn't happening, but he's antagonizing MANY groups. The bill also suggests that if you look like you MIGHT be an immigrant? You're more likely to be hassled by the police. Granted, this might already exist, but if nothing else, it's reinforcement that Florida is likely to be uncomfortable for many people of color. I wonder what other Republican politicos think of him...in private. Cuz he feels like a serious embarrassment...especially if the stunts he's been trying, fall apart. The last number I saw was about $16.7 million for legal fees. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/04/ron-desantis-lawsuits-cost-florida-taxpayers#:~:text=As a result of the,%2416.7m%2C have been soaring. I'm not sure if there's a tally of how much business has been lost, but you've got a canceled $1 Billion project from Disney (and related high-paying jobs not coming to the state) as well as a shortage of workers due to his immigration policies. unclevlad and Logan D. Hurricanes 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 Then there's this: 'Who’s going to work?' Migrant workers flee Florida as DeSantis’ new anti-immigrant law takes effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: Then there's this: 'Who’s going to work?' Migrant workers flee Florida as DeSantis’ new anti-immigrant law takes effect. Either DeSantis doesn't care or he's got plans for exploitative prison labor in the works... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 Oh, he cares. He cares about exploiting hatred and fear. He thinks that's his path to the White House. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 It worked for that other guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cowan Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) Well, if those lazy poor would just go work 16 hours in the fields after working there other two jobs they have we would not have this problem. just have them work 32 hours out of every 24 hours and Florida would be good to go. yes, sarcasm Edited July 10, 2023 by Tom Cowan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lectryk Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 9 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: Oh, he cares. He cares about exploiting hatred and fear. He thinks that's his path to the White House. The polls don't reflect that helping him. He's lagging behind Trump in the doubles, last I bothered to look. He's being doing the whiney 'The press is against my campaign!' for a bit. That hasn't been helping, either. Lord Liaden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 Elsewhere... Taliban Endorses Twitter Over Threads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lectryk said: The polls don't reflect that helping him. He's lagging behind Trump in the doubles, last I bothered to look. He's being doing the whiney 'The press is against my campaign!' for a bit. That hasn't been helping, either. DeSantis is following Trump's examples, including hate mongering and whining. But if he's courting the MAGA base that way, why would they vote for "Trump lite" when the real thing is also campaigning? Edited July 11, 2023 by Lord Liaden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 30 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: DeSantis is following Trump's examples, including hate mongering and whining. But if he's courting the MAGA base that way, why would they vote for "Trump lite" when the real thing is also campaigning? https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-r/2024/national/ And perhaps more significant, DeSantis is losing badly *in Florida*. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4088873-florida-poll-finds-trump-well-ahead-of-desantis-in-state/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 Senator Tuberville doesnt seem to understand what a white nationalist is.... From Merriam-Webster pluralwhite nationalists : one of a group of militant white people who espouse white supremacy (see WHITE SUPREMACY sense 1) and advocate enforced racial segregation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 11 hours ago, Cygnia said: Elsewhere... Taliban Endorses Twitter Over Threads Musk scores another win! Tom Cowan and Lawnmower Boy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 Tuberville is turning into one of the bigger embarrassments for the Republicans. And that's saying something, but his stunt in blocking ALL senior military promotions to try to coerce them to change their abortion policy is wrongheaded and damaging. I seriously doubt he's got much support in the Senate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, unclevlad said: Tuberville is turning into one of the bigger embarrassments for the Republicans. You have to have shame to be embarrassed. Pariah and Cygnia 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 Agreed, but he's also causing complications for McConnell's backroom dealing. From his past actions I believe Mitch does understand and value America's security. It doesn't look good that he can't keep Tuberville in line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 Many of the senior Republican Senators have a long track record of supporting the military; strong defense has been a cornerstone policy plank for ages. Tuberville is seriously undermining it by his insistence that his social policy is more important. I agree that it's a headache for Mitch, but the entire Republican party is flashing intolerant, ungoverning attitudes...my way or the highway. DeSantis has pulled numerous stunts that are clearly out of line. Tuberville. The entire Freedom Caucus. Heck, the Senate's stunts in denying Obama, then rushing through Barrett. Texas's attempts to slam its anti-abortion policies to other places. Moderates...the few there still are...have to look at this and wonder if voting for ANY Republican is simply too dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 Hunter Biden's prosecutor has sent letters to Jim Jordan and Lyndsey Graham to quit lying about his prosecution. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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