zslane Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Does anyone happen to know if Paizo paid a licensing fee to Wizards of the Coast to use the Aboleth in Pathfinder? More generally, I wonder how often monsters created and owned by one RPG publisher get used by another. Is it common? Does money usually exchange hands when this happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Desmarais Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Since Abolish is in the D20 SRD, I assume they could simply use so long as the OGL rules are followed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Oh, I see. So Paizo is able to use these creatures only because Pathfinder is a D20 game, is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 From d20SRD.org (http://www.d20srd.org): Q: Why are some monsters missing from this site? A: The following monsters are considered "Product Identity" by Wizards of the Coast and are therefore not part of the SRD: beholder gauth carrion crawler displacer beast githyanki githzerai kuo-toa mind flayer slaad umber hulk yuan-ti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 11 hours ago, Killer Shrike said: mind flayer And we all know how tht turned out in OOTS #32: bigbywolfe and bluesguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Bushido Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Ah, yes: The one where they encountered the c'thuloid and the look-tater..... zslane and Matt the Bruins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted January 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 "Look tater"... I love it! This makes me wonder how much 21 Laps Entertainment had to shell out to WotC to use the term "Mind Flayer" in Stranger Things season 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallet Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, zslane said: This makes me wonder how much 21 Laps Entertainment had to shell out to WotC to use the term "Mind Flayer" in Stranger Things season 2. Actually probably nothing, sure they would have to get written permission, but Stranger Things was/is such a big hit that it counts as $1000's or $10,000's of free advertising for D&D and if WotC said no or demanded money, then the Stranger Things guys could have just said, ok, we'll use an Cthulhu or H.P. Lovecraft name for free since it is public domain and then WotC would have nothing. So I'm sure they would let them do it for free. Now Season 3 of True Detective is a more interesting case. In that (SLIGHT SPOILERS AHEAD)... . . . . . . . . In one instance you see a D&D source book out of focus on a kid's end-table and later on the detectives learn that the missing kids were playing D&D, although they never use the name, it is always "that game", never Dungeons and Dragons. They even find a bunch of dice (d8, d4, d20, d12) in the woods near the crime scene, but again, D&D is never mentioned by name, only as "That game". Although it is only EP3 of the season, so maybe they will use it by name in the episodes to come, but so far I think they are avoiding saying it probalby because they didn't get permission and the fact that the kids playing the game probably lead to their murders so WotC might not have wanted to be associated with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 Yeah, after Mazes & Monsters and the satanic gaming panic of the 80s, I don't imagine Wizards of the Coast thinks any publicity is good publicity. Probably best not to associate your IP with murdered kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 what the heck is a Gauth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Christopher R Taylor said: what the heck is a Gauth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 So its a beholder with... more eyes. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome BODY (important!) Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Christopher R Taylor said: what the heck is a Gauth? It's one of those kids who dresses in nothing but black with red and silver accents, except this one is flunking all their spelling tests. Lawnmower Boy, Duke Bushido and Christopher R Taylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: So its a beholder with... more eyes. Got it. Not exactly. Beholders' eyes are all on stalks. Gauth have 2 hentai tentacles and 2 slaptacles. They have 6 eyestalks and a mess of tiny peepers around their main eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted April 21, 2019 Report Share Posted April 21, 2019 Moar tentacles moar better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 I always thought beholders were creatures out of obscure mythology that were developed for AD&D. That would make them public domain. Or am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 You're wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 A lot of the really odd stuff in the Monster Manual was -- literally -- Gary Gygax getting a package of weird little plastic monsters made in China or Japan, I can't remember which. And just coming up with what they were. Like the Rust Monster, the Bulette, that kind of thing. Most of those are copyrighted. Some were adapted from literature like the Displacer Beast (from Black Destroyer by A. E. van Vogt). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Bushido Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 31 minutes ago, Christopher R Taylor said: A lot of the really odd stuff in the Monster Manual was -- literally -- Gary Gygax getting a package of weird little plastic monsters made in China or Japan, I can't remember which. And just coming up with what they were. Like the Rust Monster, the Bulette, that kind of thing. Most of those are copyrighted. Some were adapted from literature like the Displacer Beast (from Black Destroyer by A. E. van Vogt). The funny thing is that I _remember_ the little plastic "dinosaurs" that contained both the Bullette and the Rust Monster. My youngest brother drove the librarian nuts when we went to Anchorage-- he kept wanting to find the book with that specific "dinosaur" in it. Amorkca, Brian Stanfield, Chris Goodwin and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 On 4/19/2019 at 12:20 PM, Christopher R Taylor said: what the heck is a Gauth? Don't he and his buddy Wayne do a public access TV show from Wayne's basement? Christopher R Taylor and wcw43921 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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