Greywind Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 They seem to be basing their Vigilante off Deadpool. pinecone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 he's not as grim as he should be I guess CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 Hollywood Rule #1: if it's successful, you must copy it. Tom Cowan and Cancer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 Looks good, seems to be an attempt to redeem the clearly unstable guy from Suicide Squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 This takes place before TSS thought, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 It seems to be right afterwards given how the movie ended. Spoiler The movie ends with the cutscene where they want to recruit him but he's still in the hospital after nearly being killed by Bloodsport. Now in the show he seems to be working for those people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 I guess I'm in the minority, in that I can't stand silly "superheroes." A little comic relief is good, but wall-to-wall goofiness poisons what I love about the genre. I wasn't going to see this movie anyway, but this trailer only solidified my position. unclevlad, Duke Bushido, Greywind and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 I believe it's a series. I enjoy this silliness because,like Deadpool, it is general kept apart from the more serious superheroing. Doom Patrol is like this as well. Though DP is just downright wacky, moreso than going for funny. Of course, if Peacemaker is as brilliantly written as Doom Patrol then I will be pleasantly surprised. Nekkidcarpenter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Bushido Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 It's weird. Even when I was younger, I was a "big guy," but I've never been in the sort of shape that John Cena was at the height of his career. In spite of his clear advantages over my physically and financially, I still find myself feeling incredibly sorry for him. I first noticed this in that Transformers movie he was in, but the older he gets, the more he looks like my grandmother.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Duke Bushido said: It's weird. Even when I was younger, I was a "big guy," but I've never been in the sort of shape that John Cena was at the height of his career. In spite of his clear advantages over my physically and financially, I still find myself feeling incredibly sorry for him. I first noticed this in that Transformers movie he was in, but the older he gets, the more he looks like my grandmother.... Oh yeah, she wrestled in the AWA didn't she? 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Bushido Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 Nah; she's older than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 whoops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Ranxerox said: Oh yeah, she wrestled in the AWA didn't she? 😜 Southpaw Regional Wrestling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Duke Bushido said: Nah; she's older than that. Are you sure? The AWA started in 1960 and some of their wrestlers weren't spring chickens even then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted October 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ranxerox said: Are you sure? The AWA started in 1960 and some of their wrestlers weren't spring chickens even then. She might have wrestled bears and crocs for dinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 When Peacemaker started out, he used to be a Reed Richards trying to make the world a better place with weird weapons, and then we got Paul Kupperberg's psychotic version, and now a goofball that shoots anybody who might get in his way but fail the mission. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 Sounds like this is just The Tick with too much characterization and plot junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 Sounds like....nothing I want to become familiar with. Doing goofball is HARD. I think you're trying scale a sheer wall in a sleet storm. It's soooo easy to screw it up. One aspect that is, I think, necessary, is some degree of connectivity to the character....he's gotta at least be a likable one. This? I didn't see *anything* to like. Characterization tends to be greatly compressed in a series...not as much as in a movie, but still quite a bit...and doing that with a schtick like this is almost certain to mean it's overdone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted October 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 The Vigilante is Adrian Chase. Chase was seriously serious. From his DA times when we met him, through being the Vigilante and a judge. Right up until he offed himself. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjack Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 7 hours ago, csyphrett said: When Peacemaker started out, he used to be a Reed Richards trying to make the world a better place with weird weapons, and then we got Paul Kupperberg's psychotic version, and now a goofball that shoots anybody who might get in his way but fail the mission. CES That was when they were trying to copy the Punisher, now they’re copying Deadpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Greywind said: The Vigilante is Adrian Chase. Chase was seriously serious. From his DA times when we met him, through being the Vigilante and a judge. Right up until he offed himself. The others were also pretty serious too. I have to agree with TJack and say they are trying to copy Deadpool, but I don't think they have a handle on some of the underlying seriousness that was going on in those movies CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Tjack said: That was when they were trying to copy the Punisher, now they’re copying Deadpool. Peacemaker first appeared in 1966, and at that time was pretty much the opposite of the Punisher (1974) in every way. He was originally published by Charlton Comics, not DC. The Comedian in Watchmen was partly based on him, although there was little in common between them after the other influences kicked in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, assault said: Peacemaker first appeared in 1966, and at that time was pretty much the opposite of the Punisher (1974) in every way. He was originally published by Charlton Comics, not DC. The Comedian in Watchmen was partly based on him, although there was little in common between them after the other influences kicked in. I think he was talking about Kupperberg's version who wound up blowing himself up CES Tjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjack Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 3 hours ago, assault said: Peacemaker first appeared in 1966, and at that time was pretty much the opposite of the Punisher (1974) in every way. He was originally published by Charlton Comics, not DC. The Comedian in Watchmen was partly based on him, although there was little in common between them after the other influences kicked in. cysprhett is correct. That is what I meant. Kupperberg’s version was a complete 180 degree turnaround from the original. But this was during the “grim & gritty” phase comics went into after the successes of Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen. Peacemaker was used as a template for the Comedian so DC thought to make Peacemaker into a Comedian expy. It didn’t work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 4:25 AM, Pariah said: Hollywood Rule #1: if it's successful, you must copy it. Especially if you don't understand it and are going to copy all the wrong things. Tom Cowan and Pariah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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