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[death tribble]

Today marks the 60th anniversary of the first broadcast of Dr Who.

[Starlord]

14 hours ago, Cygnia said:

Daryl Hall Files For Restraining Order Against John Oates In Legal Drama

 

I can't go for that...say it isn't so.

Edited November 23, 2023 by Starlord

[Asperion]

Things happening abroad that are extremely important  -

 

Dublin News Thanksgiving

[death tribble]

Oscar Pistorius is up for parole on 5th January 2024

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-67518501

 

He was one person who seemed to be genuinely remorseful when in court even before the jury and judge gave their verdicts.

[Cygnia]

1 hour ago, Asperion said:

Things happening abroad that are extremely important  -

 

Dublin News Thanksgiving

I read about this yesterday...horrible.

[Cygnia]

Niagara Falls police identify victims of Rainbow Bridge explosion

[Ternaugh]

On 11/23/2023 at 8:08 AM, Starlord said:

 

I can't go for that...say it isn't so.

Some things are better left unsaid.

[Old Man]

On 11/22/2023 at 3:47 PM, Cygnia said:

Daryl Hall Files For Restraining Order Against John Oates In Legal Drama

 

Hall & Oates Lawsuit Explained

 

Primary Wave Explained

 

I'm still confused but maybe you guys can grok it better.

 

 

[csyphrett]

Hall and Oates own a company that owns their music. A second company, Primary Wave, bought a majority of their catalogue and wants the rest. They in turn can take an old song sell it on an advertisement and make money, get money for covers, resell under another artist like Weird Al, pay Hall and Oates limited revenue. The lawsuit is Hall doesn't want Oates to sell his part of the company to Primary Wave. He wants to keep as much of the catalogue as he can. Oates (after consultation with his wife and manager) wants to sell to get the money.

 

If Oates sells his stake, Primary Wave can tell Hall what to do with his own music, pay him less of a revenue from greatest hits and streams, sell off Hall's music to a third party (or their however much they own).

 

This is kind of like a takeover by buying out a partner. At least it's not Hall accusing Oates of plagirizing himself like John Fogarty.

CES   

 

     

[death tribble]

Terry Venables who managed the England Football team has died aged 80.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67537649

[Bazza]

Jimmy Barnes, Amy Shark, The Temper Trap Lead Mushroom 50 Anniversary Concert

https://www.billboard.com/music/concerts/jimmy-barnes-amy-shark-the-temper-trap-lead-mushroom-50-concert-1235440514/

[unclevlad]

1 hour ago, csyphrett said:

Hall and Oates own a company that owns their music. A second company, Primary Wave, bought a majority of their catalogue and wants the rest. They in turn can take an old song sell it on an advertisement and make money, get money for covers, resell under another artist like Weird Al, pay Hall and Oates limited revenue. The lawsuit is Hall doesn't want Oates to sell his part of the company to Primary Wave. He wants to keep as much of the catalogue as he can. Oates (after consultation with his wife and manager) wants to sell to get the money.

 

If Oates sells his stake, Primary Wave can tell Hall what to do with his own music, pay him less of a revenue from greatest hits and streams, sell off Hall's music to a third party (or their however much they own).

 

This is kind of like a takeover by buying out a partner. At least it's not Hall accusing Oates of plagirizing himself like John Fogarty.

CES   

 

     

 

Well said.  It lets the new owners, for example, market the original versions to advertisers...there's quite a bit of that going on.  Or, as the story notes, do all sorts of things...because they now own the rights.

 

Contrast this with situations like Roy Orbison's work...when he died, nothing was really settled.  So, for *years*...the Traveling Wilburys Vol. 1, in particular, was in limbo, because the lawyers for the estate feel obligated to hold out for max value.  OTOH:

 

https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com/heres-a-running-list-of-artists-who-have-sold-some-or-all-of-their-song-catalogues-to-a-new-breed-of-company/

 

It's a BIG bucks industry.  And it's a lot cheaper to farm the past than to develop the future.  That's the purchasers' side.  For the artists, I suspect it's much like a lottery prize...holding onto the catalog, you get paid slowly but for a long time.  Selling is like taking the cash amount.  Now, in this case, once you've sold those rights, they can be used any bloody way the purchaser cares to...and I've seen isolated examples where I thought the artist had to be *cringing* to be associated with the product.

 

 

[Cygnia]

 

 

Shane MacGowan, Pogues songwriter and Irish music legend, dies aged 65

[death tribble]

Like Shaun Ryder of the Happy Mondays you wonder how he lived that long. May he rest in peace. I saw him once doing Fairytale of New York with Kirsty MacColl. It was bliss.

 

Alistair Darling former Chancellor has died aged 70.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67578993

[assault]

15 hours ago, Cygnia said:

 

 

Shane MacGowan, Pogues songwriter and Irish music legend, dies aged 65

 

Currently on my way to the pub to have a drink in his honour.

[unclevlad]

Panera is facing another lawsuit due to the caffeine content of its Charged Lemonade.  A Florida man drank 3 large servings, then had a "cardiac event" and died on the walk home.  He was 46.

 

According to Panera's own web site...a large serving contains 390 mg of caffeine...which the FDA says is generally safe.  But it's *right at* the threshold of that statement, which is 400 mg.  And it's self-serve...so...free refills. 

 

Another aspect...it's a sugar bomb.  That 20 oz serving has 130 grams of carbs, which is pretty much the target total for the entire day, but in the short term?  It's really bad.  It's also twice what's in a 20 ounce Coke, for comparison.

[Cygnia]

37 minutes ago, unclevlad said:

Panera is facing another lawsuit due to the caffeine content of its Charged Lemonade.  A Florida man drank 3 large servings, then had a "cardiac event" and died on the walk home.  He was 46.

 

According to Panera's own web site...a large serving contains 390 mg of caffeine...which the FDA says is generally safe.  But it's *right at* the threshold of that statement, which is 400 mg.  And it's self-serve...so...free refills. 

 

Another aspect...it's a sugar bomb.  That 20 oz serving has 130 grams of carbs, which is pretty much the target total for the entire day, but in the short term?  It's really bad.  It's also twice what's in a 20 ounce Coke, for comparison.

Yeah, I liked Legal Eagle's video on that...
 

 

[Cygnia]

Norman Lear, iconic TV sitcom and movie producer, dies at 101

[Cygnia]

'Visionary' Animator And Wife Found Dead In Caribbean; Chocolate Mogul Arrested

[Cancer]

Eighty-two years later....

[death tribble]

Professor Benjamin Zephaniah dies aged 6, 8 weeks after being diagnosed with a brain tumour. Maybe not known to an American audience but known to the Brits

 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-67646607

[Cancer]

Really random (and unusual) astronomical (i.e., irrelevant for just about everyone) event coming up in a few days:

 

Asteroid Leona will occult Betelgeuse the night of 11/12 December for a very brief time (up to 12 seconds) on a very narrow track from extreme south Florida, across the Atlantic, southern Spain, Sardinia, Italy, Greece, northern Turkey, and then into central Asia.  You don't have to be a pro to see it, but I suspect it is very likely to be subtle enough and brief enough that naked-eye observers, especially inexperienced ones, could see it and not notice anything.  You might hear about it after it happens, though, and there's some stray mentions in the popular media of the coming event.

 

For a very brief interval, Betelgeuse will appear to get dimmer as the asteroid passes in front of it.  It will NOT "go out", because the angular size of the asteroid is smaller than that of the star!  This is an event best recorded with a high speed movie camera + telescope; you prefer the telescope not because it's faint but because the event is brief, and the telescope makes for a small field of view so you have less confusing stuff in your view.  Also, if you aren't spang on the center of the real track (which, truth be told, we don't know precisely where that will be, not least because Betelgeuse as seen from Earth is NOT a simple circular disk!), the degree of dimming may be too small to perceive with the unaided eye.

 

That first link above is the most recent information about where the track is likely to be, but it's really terse and doesn't give much background information.  A more complete set of info is at https://iota-es.de/JOA/JOA2023_4.pdf ... the most likely track for the occultation has been adjusted since that was published, but it is MUCH more informative about the phenomenon and what's to be expected for those who aren't a pro or semipro astronomer.

Edited December 8, 2023 by Cancer

[Cygnia]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/ryan-oneal-dead-love-story-paper-moon-1235730468/

[Starlord]

4 hours ago, Cancer said:

Really random (and unusual) astronomical (i.e., irrelevant for just about everyone) event coming up in a few days:

 

Asteroid Leona will occult Betelgeuse the night of 11/12 December for a very brief time (up to 12 seconds) on a very narrow track from extreme south Florida, across the Atlantic, southern Spain, Sardinia, Italy, Greece, northern Turkey, and then into central Asia.  You don't have to be a pro to see it, but I suspect it is very likely to be subtle enough and brief enough that naked-eye observers, especially inexperienced ones, could see it and not notice anything.  You might hear about it after it happens, though, and there's some stray mentions in the popular media of the coming event.

 

For a very brief interval, Betelgeuse will appear to get dimmer as the asteroid passes in front of it.  It will NOT "go out", because the angular size of the asteroid is smaller than that of the star!  This is an event best recorded with a high speed movie camera + telescope; you prefer the telescope not because it's faint but because the event is brief, and the telescope makes for a small field of view so you have less confusing stuff in your view.  Also, if you aren't spang on the center of the real track (which, truth be told, we don't know precisely where that will be, not least because Betelgeuse as seen from Earth is NOT a simple circular disk!), the degree of dimming may be too small to perceive with the unaided eye.

 

That first link above is the most recent information about where the track is likely to be, but it's really terse and doesn't give much background information.  A more complete set of info is at https://iota-es.de/JOA/JOA2023_4.pdf ... the most likely track for the occultation has been adjusted since that was published, but it is MUCH more informative about the phenomenon and what's to be expected for those who aren't a pro or semipro astronomer.

 

Aww man, you typed Betelgeuse 3 times....

[Cancer]

Heck, I did that almost 40 years ago....