zslane Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 That visual gag is effective though. It lets the audience know rather emphatically that the TVA exists outside of the multiverse and is therefore not subject to its physical/cosmological laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: I guess you might ask the people who actually enjoyed it, like myself and some other people on this thread. Ask what? I'm confused. Everything is to taste. I mean I know an avid Bollywood fan. So there are people for everything, but I am attempting to push through a horrendous movie where it has been almost physical labor to push a full 24 minutes into a 156 minute show. I mean a high order being that is thousands of years old invents a technological device to help farming and when literally everyone in the room indicates that it is far beyond current human understanding says "can you do that think" referring to mind control like a modern teenage genius that is technologically smarter than his emotional age. So far the characters have not established any kind of connection with the audience except maybe Hayek's character is stupid since the scene with the big red guy clearly telegraphs "you're being lied to" with trumpeting shout of obviousness. What few scenes there are that try to establish the characters are just long enough to utterly waste time while being too short to actually establish anything the audience can latch on to. I'll admit I have never read the Eternals and it has been a long time since I've read a comic. I the US comics industry shuttered it's doors back in the late 80's so it has been a while. That means I am going in to the movie with no knowledge of the story so everything is dependent on the movie itself. This movie is worse than the theatrical release of the 1984 Dune movie. They were actually handing out a three page cheat sheet with definitions of terms in the lobby. If you had read the book you could understand what they were trying to do, but with anyone that had never read the book it was a bomb at the box office. I am sure that there are people that liked it, but currently at 24:21 it is about as interesting as a monotone documentary about different shades of white paint drying. But I spent $5.99 on it and I will get my money out of it. If I can stay awake Lee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Supposedly its an alternate universe so the infinity stones are powerless in that dimension. Which brings up the question: why even have them? Aside from a throwaway visual gag? 2 hours ago, zslane said: That visual gag is effective though. It lets the audience know rather emphatically that the TVA exists outside of the multiverse and is therefore not subject to its physical/cosmological laws. The gag served another important purpose as well: it reminded the audience that they weren't watching the DCEU. mattingly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, Pariah said: The gag served another important purpose as well: it reminded the audience that they weren't watching the DCEU. Very important gag. #VIG 31 minutes ago, Spence said: Ask what? I'm confused. Everything is to taste. I mean I know an avid Bollywood fan. So there are people for everything, but I am attempting to push through a horrendous movie where it has been almost physical labor to push a full 24 minutes into a 156 minute show. I mean a high order being that is thousands of years old invents a technological device to help farming and when literally everyone in the room indicates that it is far beyond current human understanding says "can you do that think" referring to mind control like a modern teenage genius that is technologically smarter than his emotional age. So far the characters have not established any kind of connection with the audience except maybe Hayek's character is stupid since the scene with the big red guy clearly telegraphs "you're being lied to" with trumpeting shout of obviousness. What few scenes there are that try to establish the characters are just long enough to utterly waste time while being too short to actually establish anything the audience can latch on to. I'll admit I have never read the Eternals and it has been a long time since I've read a comic. I the US comics industry shuttered it's doors back in the late 80's so it has been a while. That means I am going in to the movie with no knowledge of the story so everything is dependent on the movie itself. This movie is worse than the theatrical release of the 1984 Dune movie. They were actually handing out a three page cheat sheet with definitions of terms in the lobby. If you had read the book you could understand what they were trying to do, but with anyone that had never read the book it was a bomb at the box office. I am sure that there are people that liked it, but currently at 24:21 it is about as interesting as a monotone documentary about different shades of white paint drying. But I spent $5.99 on it and I will get my money out of it. If I can stay awake A friend gave up watching it around the 20-30 min mark, so you are not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 21 minutes ago, Spence said: Ask what? I'm confused. Assuming you're correct that they didn't use a test audience (don't want to take the time right now to research whether that's a fact), if you asked us why we might respond that a test audience wasn't necessary, since the film is good, albeit far from perfect (IMHO). Moreover, the way you phrased your question seemed to imply that you believe test-audience input would have made Eternals an objectively better movie. Test audiences have proven far from reliable at predicting what the wider audience reception to a film will be. Spence and Matt the Bruins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 An article about the first test audience screening of The Eternals in August 2020: https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/marvels-eternals-director-reveals-photo-from-first-test-screening-which-was-held-in-a-parking-lot/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 Serenity Now https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Spider-Man-No-Way-Home-Read-The-Screenplay.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 1/25/2022 at 5:44 PM, Lord Liaden said: Assuming you're correct that they didn't use a test audience (don't want to take the time right now to research whether that's a fact), if you asked us why we might respond that a test audience wasn't necessary, since the film is good, albeit far from perfect (IMHO). Moreover, the way you phrased your question seemed to imply that you believe test-audience input would have made Eternals an objectively better movie. Test audiences have proven far from reliable at predicting what the wider audience reception to a film will be. My bad, I was being snarky and didn't actually carry it off. I guess it came over as either very stupid or asking a question. I appreciate you giving me the benefit of the doubt and treating it like a question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Relic of St Teresa of Avila/Infinity Gauntlet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 I shared that years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bazza said: I shared that years ago. I am...inevitable. mattingly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 The Carmelites still should sue for trade dress infringement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 mattingly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 4:26 PM, Starlord said: I am...inevitable. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 Apropos to a conversation someplace else, I would love to see a Disney+ series with Colleen Wing and Misty Knight. If we can include a crossover with Kate Bishop in it, so much the better. pinecone, Matt the Bruins, Ranxerox and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 19 hours ago, Pariah said: Apropos to a conversation someplace else, I would love to see a Disney+ series with Colleen Wing and Misty Knight. If we can include a crossover with Kate Bishop in it, so much the better. I'd love the idea of a Knight-Wing Investigations if Iron Fist weren't such a abomination that I try to block it's existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 That is probably the problem; it stinks of Iron Fist. Otherwise its a no-brainer, if well written Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 Disney just has to declare that the Iron Fist series isn't MCU canon, like they did with Agents of SHIELD and Inhumans. Start over from scratch. pinecone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted February 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 Marvel has declared Agent Carter tv series as canon. As to the others, they would be non-canon (at this stage). we may know more after Doctor Strange 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 21 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: Disney just has to declare that the Iron Fist series isn't MCU canon, like they did with Agents of SHIELD and Inhumans. Start over from scratch. Maybe Disney can declare the Iron Fist series as "shoot from a cannon." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, BoloOfEarth said: Maybe Disney can declare the Iron Fist series as "shoot from a cannon." ...into the Sea. Of Tranquility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted February 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pariah said: ...into the Sea. Of Tranquility. Is the near the Blue Area of the Moon? (Oh Is is the Luther Crater) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 Isn't the Blue Area on the far side* of the Moon? It's been a while since I've read anything involving it. -- * The far side of the Moon is the side you can't see from the earth. Not to be confused with The Dark Side of the Moon, which is a 1973 Pink Floyd album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted February 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 Not according to the Google search I did a moment ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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